RicoTheGoat Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 (edited) Your in game name: Rico Your Steam ID:STEAM_0:1:524703515 The player's in game name: Maddogg The player's steam ID (required):STEAM_0:1:125339230 What did the player do: Unrestrained a hostage being held at gunpoint - No Value of life Evidence (required): What do you believe should happen to the player: A very stern talking to and a spanking delivered by Yobo - or whater ever fits the crime here Any extra information: There was NO RP here, if the hostage was at gunpoint, with 2 guns at his head, no state trooper is going to sprint in and attempt to unrestrain them Edited May 12, 2020 by RicoTheGoat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Holland Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 There was 1 minute left in the robbery, meaning gov move in. Meaning negotiations are off. That’s why they moved in and unrestrained him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Raddish Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Max Holland said: There was 1 minute left in the robbery, meaning gov move in. Meaning negotiations are off. That’s why they moved in and unrestrained him. Yeah, sorry but I'm gonna -Support this. Negotiations could've been called off when you shot your Negev. They were kind enough to play your game until one minute. However, removing restraints in the middle of a firefight is a bit of a lack of value for life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dredgen Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 +/- Support Negotiations were brought down to a minute which means gov can move in. However, there is no way in hell a officer would be able to move in an uncuff the hostage while 2 gun were drawn, just doesn't seem right and semi-failrp. PoliceRP: Former PD LT. ImperialRP: Starkiller, former 8th Brother, StarFighter Vice Marshall, 501st CPT, and Admin. MilitaryRP: Captain Price, former USAF Lieutenant Colonel.JVS: Former Darth Vader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ender Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 +/- Support Unrestrained the hostage while gun(s) were still on him. Government was moving in so semi-failrp. Ender | Former SWAT Lieutenant | Senior Low Command | SWAT FTO | Previous PoliceRP Administrator COL Will 1L52 to admins: Max, you ain't going to scare them, you are on a female model and stuttering... "So what're you doing?" - @SWAT LT Ender 22-D "Putting my clothes back on". - @SWAT SFC Nao 27-D "There's a fine line between right and wrong. And somewhere, in the shadows, they've sent us to find it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 (edited) -support i was here for this maddog actually wanted to to let you guys get the money and get the hostage out safely but other tac unit heads wanted to move in he got an order to release the hostage plus i am pretty damn sure this was handled in game other thing i want to let you know there was no guns on the hostage the guy with the awp was aiming at the dogs soo that being said he had every right to unrestrained him Edited May 12, 2020 by Hannah SWAT PVT Hannah XR39-CPL Hannah King XC65 - Hannah King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupremeChow Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Max Holland said: There was 1 minute left in the robbery, meaning gov move in. Meaning negotiations are off. That’s why they moved in and unrestrained him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sion Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 +/- support Regardless if gov were pushing, you should always try to preserve hostages life. Unrestaining while 2 guns pointed at him does show no value for life... 'you may see my struggle, but you won't see me quit' 'Success depends on the second letter' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, Sion said: +/- support Regardless if gov were pushing, you should always try to preserve hostages life. Unrestaining while 2 guns pointed at him does show no value for life... watch the video til the end they pointed there guns at the dogs thats when he ran to the hostage so he basically tried saving him SWAT PVT Hannah XR39-CPL Hannah King XC65 - Hannah King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 5 hours ago, Hannah said: -support i was here for this maddog actually wanted to to let you guys get the money and get the hostage out safely but other tac unit heads wanted to move in he got an order to release the hostage plus i am pretty damn sure this was handled in game other thing i want to let you know there was no guns on the hostage the guy with the awp was aiming at the dogs soo that being said he had every right to unrestrained him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer. Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Hannah said: -support i was here for this maddog actually wanted to to let you guys get the money and get the hostage out safely but other tac unit heads wanted to move in he got an order to release the hostage plus i am pretty damn sure this was handled in game other thing i want to let you know there was no guns on the hostage the guy with the awp was aiming at the dogs soo that being said he had every right to unrestrained him Also What were taxes at or how many SS were there? Edited May 12, 2020 by K1LLER Killer | Gaminglight Member Since 2016 | Retired PD Colonel l State Major l SPRT Co-Commander l FBI Assistant Director l UMC Level 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cammy Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 5 hours ago, Hannah said: -support i was here for this maddog actually wanted to to let you guys get the money and get the hostage out safely but other tac unit heads wanted to move in he got an order to release the hostage plus i am pretty damn sure this was handled in game other thing i want to let you know there was no guns on the hostage the guy with the awp was aiming at the dogs soo that being said he had every right to unrestrained him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyGoose Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 6 hours ago, Ender said: +/- Support Unrestrained the hostage while gun(s) were still on him. Government was moving in so semi-failrp. Former FBI COS | PD LT | DS PFC | Former HRT Overseer | Gaminglight PRP Admin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Yobo Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 - SupportGuns were not pointed at Maddog. Because you shot the president as soon as we moved in. this means that his aim was always at the pres not Maddog. Because if it was on Maddog he would of had to retake aim too shoot the president... "Toby has been made wanted by... Carson Wealer" If the gun was pointed at Maddog it would of hit him first. As soon as me and Max moved in on K9 Your attention was on us and not them your gun moved away from Maddog and towards the center of the vault door of us rushing in. If Maddog was truly under gunpoint the negev would of shreaded him.. It was 1 Minute left all bets were off and the whole pd force and Matthew with a car rushed in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 7 hours ago, Yobo said: - SupportGuns were not pointed at Maddog. Because you shot the president as soon as we moved in. this means that his aim was always at the pres not Maddog. Because if it was on Maddog he would of had to retake aim too shoot the president... "Toby has been made wanted by... Carson Wealer" If the gun was pointed at Maddog it would of hit him first. As soon as me and Max moved in on K9 Your attention was on us and not them your gun moved away from Maddog and towards the center of the vault door of us rushing in. If Maddog was truly under gunpoint the negev would of shreaded him.. It was 1 Minute left all bets were off and the whole pd force and Matthew with a car rushed in. That bald Aussie Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby. Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 18 hours ago, Hannah said: -support i was here for this maddog actually wanted to to let you guys get the money and get the hostage out safely but other tac unit heads wanted to move in he got an order to release the hostage plus i am pretty damn sure this was handled in game other thing i want to let you know there was no guns on the hostage the guy with the awp was aiming at the dogs soo that being said he had every right to unrestrained him My gun was on the Hostage at the end as soon as they rushed in i awped him in the head then went for the dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruben On The Radio Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 22 hours ago, Max Holland said: There was 1 minute left in the robbery, meaning gov move in. Meaning negotiations are off. That’s why they moved in and unrestrained him. "When something is important enough, you do it even if the odds are not in your favor. " - Elon Musk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ender Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Changing to a + Support yes and no on the importance that the negotiations were off, still can't unrestrain someone when guns are on the person/previous negotiator. It's semi-failrp because of that though. If you actually review the video, frame by frame you can see Maddog was still under FearRP because the combat had not started yet. Other person still had gun on him. President is unrestrained before any combat happens and before the guys shoot at the dogs. https://gyazo.com/d7383254faaeebb174390f3aa5c9ebc2 - [ Unrestrained while AWP was on Maddog / President and right before actual shooting/combat started. ] https://gyazo.com/e1bde1fd4ccfdf9189e681fb806d0b81 - Weapon [AWP] was still on him. Definition of Combat - fighting between armed forces. Definition of FailRP - [to the closest, understandable description] an event surrounding an action that your character commits that is not probable. Ender | Former SWAT Lieutenant | Senior Low Command | SWAT FTO | Previous PoliceRP Administrator COL Will 1L52 to admins: Max, you ain't going to scare them, you are on a female model and stuttering... "So what're you doing?" - @SWAT LT Ender 22-D "Putting my clothes back on". - @SWAT SFC Nao 27-D "There's a fine line between right and wrong. And somewhere, in the shadows, they've sent us to find it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 38 minutes ago, Ender said: Changing to a + Support yes and no on the importance that the negotiations were off, still can't unrestrain someone when guns are on the person/previous negotiator. It's semi-failrp because of that though. If you actually review the video, frame by frame you can see Maddog was still under FearRP because the combat had not started yet. Other person still had gun on him. President is unrestrained before any combat happens and before the guys shoot at the dogs. - [ Unrestrained while AWP was on Maddog / President and right before actual shooting/combat started. ] https://gyazo.com/e1bde1fd4ccfdf9189e681fb806d0b81 - Weapon [AWP] was still on him. Definition of Combat - fighting between armed forces. Definition of FailRP - [to the closest, understandable description] an event surrounding an action that your character commits that is not probable. if his weapon was aimed at him why did he miss his shot? and you cant aim an sniper at 2 people that doesn't make any sense plus he got orders and attemped to save the president from heads of other departments SWAT PVT Hannah XR39-CPL Hannah King XC65 - Hannah King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoeyPlaysGames Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 On 5/12/2020 at 1:18 PM, Dredgen said: +/- Support Negotiations were brought down to a minute which means gov can move in. However, there is no way in hell a officer would be able to move in an uncuff the hostage while 2 gun were drawn, just doesn't seem right and semi-failrp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby. Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 4 hours ago, Ender said: Changing to a + Support yes and no on the importance that the negotiations were off, still can't unrestrain someone when guns are on the person/previous negotiator. It's semi-failrp because of that though. If you actually review the video, frame by frame you can see Maddog was still under FearRP because the combat had not started yet. Other person still had gun on him. President is unrestrained before any combat happens and before the guys shoot at the dogs. https://gyazo.com/d7383254faaeebb174390f3aa5c9ebc2 - [ Unrestrained while AWP was on Maddog / President and right before actual shooting/combat started. ] https://gyazo.com/e1bde1fd4ccfdf9189e681fb806d0b81 - Weapon [AWP] was still on him. Definition of Combat - fighting between armed forces. Definition of FailRP - [to the closest, understandable description] an event surrounding an action that your character commits that is not probable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL]MyanDaBeast Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Closed Truthfully this is a complicated matter, however it was already handled in-game. Maddog come speak to me in TS when you are available. PoliceRP I Head Admin I PD: Colonel I Retired SWAT Commander I Deputy Sheriff I ImperialRP I Retired Grand Inquisitor I 47th Battalion I Chimaera Legion I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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