Popular Post Bossatron1924 Posted December 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2022 What are you suggesting? - The change within the map to lower D Block How would this change better the server? - Currently, lower d block is just a square that leads underground and provides a unique advantage to gensec in their favor, allowing them to camp only one area with little cover being found. Some may think it's me malding about dying every 3 seconds after going upper d block. No, it is me trying to suggest that lower d block from site 50 gets re-added albeit with some changes, adding 2 elevators instead of one so more Class D to get up and down, while gensec keeps their upper d block. Site 50's D Block allowed gensec and Class D to both have unique fun, for if one side clears the opposite faction, they get to hold d block unless coordination is used to take it back. I want this suggestion to be taken into consideration by Site Admin AND SMT, instead of the usual denial that these get. Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - Having to update the map, both factions having to change their play style. Who would this change mostly benefit? - Everyone that plays Class D, and will have newer players want to stay longer as they won't be killed every 20 seconds after coming up the elevator for the first time. Please link any workshop content, screenshots, or anything that you think may be helpful to those who view this suggestion - N/AREP BOMB WARNING !!! 7 2 Current: CI COL | CI RND SVA | Proud Rho 36 Shaman and Rho 36 "Infiltrator" Group Vanguard Former: MTF E11 LTCOL | A1 2LT | SF Aphrodite Z36 | STF D4 Ares BA4 | Banana Fridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlantBruh Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Honestly would be a fun mix-up, but would obviously need a map edit, which is usually grounds for denial. However, it would make D-Class more fun and gives more options than running at gensec or peeking from the sides rooms. +Support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazza Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 hour ago, PlantBruh said: Honestly would be a fun mix-up, but would obviously need a map edit, which is usually grounds for denial. However, it would make D-Class more fun and gives more options than running at gensec or peeking from the sides rooms. +Support 1 hour ago, PlantBruh said: Honestly would be a fun mix-up, but would obviously need a map edit, which is usually grounds for denial. However, it would make D-Class more fun and gives more options than running at gensec or peeking from the sides rooms. +Support 1 Freedom at last. Former: Assistant Inspector, Head of Longshot, Research Assistant Supervisor & Operations Supervisor, G.O.C. Officer & Head of bulldozers, CI COL, EOI D-2, DJ Former: Scout Captain, Second Lieutenant, Senior Crewman, Storm Commando Captain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizium Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 hours ago, PlantBruh said: Honestly would be a fun mix-up, but would obviously need a map edit, which is usually grounds for denial. However, it would make D-Class more fun and gives more options than running at gensec or peeking from the sides rooms. +Support 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avalon Levi Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 On 12/9/2022 at 11:44 PM, PlantBruh said: Honestly would be a fun mix-up, but would obviously need a map edit, which is usually grounds for denial. However, it would make D-Class more fun and gives more options than running at gensec or peeking from the sides rooms. +Support "So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God" ~ Isaiah 41:10Currently: Head Of Research | HOSM Sub-Zero | Ghost OA0 | Emeritus Professor | R.A.U Grand Commissioner Former: Security 1LT | Medical Supervisor | Moderator | Event Team Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rito Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 +Support Great idea, and I believe it would make it way more enjoyable for both D-Class and Gensec and even MTF guarding D-Block to be on the lookout for 2 different spots However this needs map editing, and I don't remember if it is possible to just temper with the map like that sadly. Current: Nu-7 VCMDR Former: E-11 VCMDR/LT-COL totally didn't get demoted || Event Team Member || CI SFTO 2LT CCs: Snoop Dog Owner || Previous Rho-36 Occult Operative || Used to be Reznov || CI TF2 Heavy || MTF Zeta-0 'Caste Gates' || Tango-12 'Forgiving Hand' French Canadian man || Mbappé fan in the making Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeferGaming Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 On 12/17/2022 at 9:59 AM, Rito said: +Support Great idea, and I believe it would make it way more enjoyable for both D-Class and Gensec and even MTF guarding D-Block to be on the lookout for 2 different spots However this needs map editing, and I don't remember if it is possible to just temper with the map like that sadly. SCP/Medical Senior-Command/Manager/Head of Field Work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chineseman Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 On 12/17/2022 at 11:59 AM, Rito said: +Support Great idea, and I believe it would make it way more enjoyable for both D-Class and Gensec and even MTF guarding D-Block to be on the lookout for 2 different spots However this needs map editing, and I don't remember if it is possible to just temper with the map like that sadly. miss the old site 50 d block and if its possible to mix the on site50 d block to add it to the current one that will be sick +support CURRENT RANKS SCPRP: NoneRetired E-11 COL and EX GENSEC MAJ CHAD WITH GOLDENPAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucarioKing Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 (edited) I do hate the new D-Block is very unfun and quickly gets shot down. I recommend just merging the last map D-Block and the prop placement. Remove the glass, please I want them to troll all security with my Barrett again WITHOUT THE GLASS! and I know there’s someone who knows what I’m talking about +support Edited January 15, 2023 by LucarioKing 1 ︎︎︎︎︎︎︎︎🗐︎ | Owner CC: CI TF2 Heavy (without Auger)| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex-G Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 -Support The site-50 Lower D-Block would not work with our current map. While SOME aspects could be adopted to expand Lower D-Block it would be difficult with the sheer size the map is. The map is optimized to use as much space as possible. The tower would remain in upper and upper would look identical to how it looks now. People from lower would not be able to shoot into upper, with possible exception to the ends of the catwalks. There would also not be any additional elevators. The glass in Upper D-Block would stay. Please remember that D-Class are prisoners who are dead to the rest of the world in a top secret off the grid blacksite where dangerous unknown entities are contained and studied. They have no rights, they barely exist. They will not have an easy time escaping. I am 100% on board for creating more RP and activities for D-Class to do, but it is extremely hard to incorporate new things without disrupting the current flow or damaging some other branch in the process. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprink Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 7 hours ago, Hex-G said: -Support The site-50 Lower D-Block would not work with our current map. While SOME aspects could be adopted to expand Lower D-Block it would be difficult with the sheer size the map is. The map is optimized to use as much space as possible. The tower would remain in upper and upper would look identical to how it looks now. People from lower would not be able to shoot into upper, with possible exception to the ends of the catwalks. There would also not be any additional elevators. The glass in Upper D-Block would stay. Please remember that D-Class are prisoners who are dead to the rest of the world in a top secret off the grid blacksite where dangerous unknown entities are contained and studied. They have no rights, they barely exist. They will not have an easy time escaping. I am 100% on board for creating more RP and activities for D-Class to do, but it is extremely hard to incorporate new things without disrupting the current flow or damaging some other branch in the process. 1 1 Deputy Head of Security | Executive Event Team | Admin | Forum Diplomat | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Velvet Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 +support One way to make dblock fun again would be by adding an armory into lower, would make rp more immersive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Johnson Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 +Support It should be a priority to ensure the new player has somewhat a chance to over power security forces. Just remove that lower D block all together and have some cells in upper If the map needs to be optimized they could remove the useless forest to the right of CI base when you are coming out. Also if you want to go with the 'realism argument' there are tons of things on this server that go against lore. 106 Cant tp through walls, SCPs having out of bounds areas, Mobile task forces and CC that dont exist. The point is there has to be changes to lore strict things for things to actually be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovelock Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Where I see what you are saying I have to say like others have is that the old map LDB (Lower D Block) will not work with site 13 and I do not see SMT or whoever is in charge of changing maps changing it back to site 50 as people complained a lot about the fact that D Class would snipe you from lower now people are saying D Class have no chance of rioting but you see both sides are wrong because being sniped from lower on site 50 made D Block more exciting as you learned to be ready for anything and if you got sniped you would laugh about it especially if you are not expecting it not only that on this map D Class do riot with and without CI assistance so if this were accepted I feel it would work better with site 50 but I am staying Neutral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protonous Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 +Support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 + Support Ya know if they added the cafeteria back that would be awesome, I remember the events that would happen for Chefs to come in and do events FOR D-Class other than like a mass Riot event. I would love a change for Lower D-Block. “Be the change that you wish to see in the world.” ― Mahatma Gandhi Retired Director of Intelligence(2023) & Former Epsilon-11 Commander (2020/2023) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamato Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) On 12/19/2022 at 8:41 PM, Chineseman said: and if its possible to mix the on site50 d block to add it to the current one that will be sick Nah Make it Site 10 dblock huge open area in the front with proper lines and decent barricades and it's perfect for dclass snipers so there's no room to complain on either side. It'll effect some of the gensec SOP and rules etc and remove any / all vantage points for foundation side snipers but y'know why are you using a high caliber sniper against unarmored flesh? kinda cringe. Dclass get an advantage due to their large elevator that brings them down and it'd be reworded to upper dblock. Site-10 dblock tho was deffinitely good for both sides regardless the one thing we'll be missing might be the CMD overlook above where gensec would be +support Edited January 30, 2023 by Yamato 1 YamatoNu7 Sergeant Major | Former: RRH Guardian KILO 20 | HTF MSG Inferno 2142 (MK2) Nu-7: CPT, DHBHM, DHCBRN. | D5: MSGT x3 | Sec MSGT. | Moderator |1 Year DHBHM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnsAFK Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 On 1/17/2023 at 10:59 AM, Hex-G said: Please remember that D-Class are prisoners who are dead to the rest of the world in a top secret off the grid blacksite where dangerous unknown entities are contained and studied. They have no rights, they barely exist. They will not have an easy time escaping. Please remember for some branches you need to escape and dblock is incredibly gensec sided and there are people who pay money to play as dclass and just bc you blow at the video game dosent mean they dont get to have fun 2 Real Ass G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Weeb Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 On 1/17/2023 at 8:59 AM, Hex-G said: -Support The site-50 Lower D-Block would not work with our current map. While SOME aspects could be adopted to expand Lower D-Block it would be difficult with the sheer size the map is. The map is optimized to use as much space as possible. The tower would remain in upper and upper would look identical to how it looks now. People from lower would not be able to shoot into upper, with possible exception to the ends of the catwalks. There would also not be any additional elevators. The glass in Upper D-Block would stay. Please remember that D-Class are prisoners who are dead to the rest of the world in a top secret off the grid blacksite where dangerous unknown entities are contained and studied. They have no rights, they barely exist. They will not have an easy time escaping. I am 100% on board for creating more RP and activities for D-Class to do, but it is extremely hard to incorporate new things without disrupting the current flow or damaging some other branch in the process. Well it's also a game, of which is meant to be enjoyable. +Support 1 SCP-RP - Former: Moderator/ET, Security SFTO SM, Research Researcher, MTF Alpha-1 Sgt, MTF Alpha-1 "Alpha-6", Noob-7 Cpl, D5 RCT, R&D SIN, T-2 Blackjack, HFR, DHBI and E-11 DoFTO HCE SM | Current: CI Military DHLS SFTO SM Imperial-RP - Former - Moderator, Royal Guard Senior Guard, Shadow Guard Lead, Stormtrooper 2LT, 501st MSG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanGuy Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 On 1/17/2023 at 8:59 AM, Hex-G said: -Support The site-50 Lower D-Block would not work with our current map. While SOME aspects could be adopted to expand Lower D-Block it would be difficult with the sheer size the map is. The map is optimized to use as much space as possible. The tower would remain in upper and upper would look identical to how it looks now. People from lower would not be able to shoot into upper, with possible exception to the ends of the catwalks. There would also not be any additional elevators. The glass in Upper D-Block would stay. Please remember that D-Class are prisoners who are dead to the rest of the world in a top secret off the grid blacksite where dangerous unknown entities are contained and studied. They have no rights, they barely exist. They will not have an easy time escaping. I am 100% on board for creating more RP and activities for D-Class to do, but it is extremely hard to incorporate new things without disrupting the current flow or damaging some other branch in the process. shitty reasoning 2 Former CI CPT| Guts | Mexican “I will protect those who cannot protect themselves. ” —Second Ideal of the Windrunners— Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Velvet Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 On 1/17/2023 at 10:59 AM, Hex-G said: -Support The site-50 Lower D-Block would not work with our current map. While SOME aspects could be adopted to expand Lower D-Block it would be difficult with the sheer size the map is. The map is optimized to use as much space as possible. The tower would remain in upper and upper would look identical to how it looks now. People from lower would not be able to shoot into upper, with possible exception to the ends of the catwalks. There would also not be any additional elevators. The glass in Upper D-Block would stay. Please remember that D-Class are prisoners who are dead to the rest of the world in a top secret off the grid blacksite where dangerous unknown entities are contained and studied. They have no rights, they barely exist. They will not have an easy time escaping. I am 100% on board for creating more RP and activities for D-Class to do, but it is extremely hard to incorporate new things without disrupting the current flow or damaging some other branch in the process. -support your -support for one simple reason, I disagree. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avalon Levi Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 2:11 AM, Sean Johnson said: +Support It should be a priority to ensure the new player has somewhat a chance to over power security forces. Just remove that lower D block all together and have some cells in upper If the map needs to be optimized they could remove the useless forest to the right of CI base when you are coming out. Also if you want to go with the 'realism argument' there are tons of things on this server that go against lore. 106 Cant tp through walls, SCPs having out of bounds areas, Mobile task forces and CC that dont exist. The point is there has to be changes to lore strict things for things to actually be fun. "So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God" ~ Isaiah 41:10Currently: Head Of Research | HOSM Sub-Zero | Ghost OA0 | Emeritus Professor | R.A.U Grand Commissioner Former: Security 1LT | Medical Supervisor | Moderator | Event Team Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayaya Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Would be cool if there were paths up into the mines and lounge area. Partial could still be maintained however would be interesting to see how they would handle extra routes. Actually setting up guards instead of playing jump on the elevator edge and shoot any orange that appears +support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex-G Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 On 1/31/2023 at 2:20 PM, JohnsAFK said: Please remember for some branches you need to escape and dblock is incredibly gensec sided and there are people who pay money to play as dclass and just bc you blow at the video game dosent mean they dont get to have fun There are no branches that need to escape D-block? D-Class ig you could consider as a branch but there is no formal structure for D-Class, they are meant to be chaotic and only as organized as a bunch of random players can make them. Yes, D-block is gensec sided. It was literally built by the foundation to keep D-Class inside and prevent them from escaping. This is not a fair 1 v 1 TDM arena, its for prisoners. The way D-Class can win is by using cunning tactics and coordinating with each other. The assistance of CI is a massive help to both factions when it comes to raids and escaping. Also, saying skill issue does not help to the discussion at all, try to contribute something in your responses. On 1/31/2023 at 4:13 PM, Some Weeb said: Well it's also a game, of which is meant to be enjoyable. Part of the game is the relation to the lore of the SCP Foundation. D-Class are prisoners, in Jail break gamemodes its not easy for people to get out, its based on prisoners winning against the odds. Its meant to be hard because that makes it all the more satisfying when you do it. If it was easy not only would it make no sense but it would become stagnant and boring very quickly. On 1/31/2023 at 4:39 PM, MexicanGuy said: shitty reasoning Contribute something to the conversation or explain which part of my reasoning you disagree with. That is just unproductive On 1/31/2023 at 7:08 PM, Rex Velvet said: -support your -support for one simple reason, I disagree. Again, explain why you disagree, simply saying this means nothing. If you don't like something or think I was wrong please explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Velvet Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Hex-G said: There are no branches that need to escape D-block? D-Class ig you could consider as a branch but there is no formal structure for D-Class, they are meant to be chaotic and only as organized as a bunch of random players can make them. Yes, D-block is gensec sided. It was literally built by the foundation to keep D-Class inside and prevent them from escaping. This is not a fair 1 v 1 TDM arena, its for prisoners. The way D-Class can win is by using cunning tactics and coordinating with each other. The assistance of CI is a massive help to both factions when it comes to raids and escaping. Also, saying skill issue does not help to the discussion at all, try to contribute something in your responses. Part of the game is the relation to the lore of the SCP Foundation. D-Class are prisoners, in Jail break gamemodes its not easy for people to get out, its based on prisoners winning against the odds. Its meant to be hard because that makes it all the more satisfying when you do it. If it was easy not only would it make no sense but it would become stagnant and boring very quickly. Contribute something to the conversation or explain which part of my reasoning you disagree with. That is just unproductive Again, explain why you disagree, simply saying this means nothing. If you don't like something or think I was wrong please explain. Your reasoning solely revolves around SCP realism and Gensec gameplay. You seem to be ignorant of how new players start on D-class and equally ignorant of how many new players are turned away by Gensec and mtf sitting at the top of the elevator during partial. Admittedly, you acknowledge giving dclass more things to do in RP, so credit there. My suggestion would be to add 2 smaller elevators, 1 leading to lounge and the other to mines to allow for players who want to gamble or mine to be able to do so while partial is on and to allow for more dynamic riots, which would be more fun for both parties while on partial, because I would be astonished if sitting at the top of elevator, shooting down at ppl with 100hp, was even remotely fun with its lack of any difficulty. By no means should the addition of 2 elevators be the end goal, but merely a starting point. To be honest, you seem very much against anything that benefits dclass because you think it takes away from gensec when in reality it doesnt. The goal is to make things more entertaining for both parties. Dblock would still be gensec sided as it should be, but dclass should have more options to get into upper than one elevator (as a caveat, it was understandable with the old map seeing as we could shoot into upper that there was one elevator since that made riots fluid and dynamic, but with the new map its very much 1 route and 1 way to riot with very little wiggle room, the addition of 2 elevators would open up a world of possibilities for dclass to choose from and again, make riots more interesting from both sides) +Support make dblock better Edited February 3, 2023 by Rex Velvet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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