Ya Boi Sawrunner Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 +support, with some restrictions. I think, as long as there are no researchers who actively need an escort, that is fine, but if researchers need a RIS, so one actively escorting or one being requested can't be fucked with, but all the others are fair game. Since RIS appear to be more advanced than HLPRs and are combatants with better gear though, a harder roll should be implemented if this suggestion goes through. Daddy D Boi |Previously CI SGM XB1 and RAM|Formerly Agent Starboi| CCs: Frank West | Doctor Samuel Hayden | Solid Snake | CI Recon Force | Drip Hank Hill | The O7 Bois (Owner of Sunsetters) The Femboi With The Fubar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avalon Levi Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 On 1/24/2022 at 5:03 AM, Nydekore said: -Support Our RIS units are a tool, something to allow our researchers to test in bad hours for combatants. They stay out of CI's business, we want to keep CI out of their business. 1 "So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God" ~ Isaiah 41:10Currently: Head Of Research | HOSM Sub-Zero | Ghost OA0 | Emeritus Professor | R.A.U Grand Commissioner Former: Security 1LT | Medical Supervisor | Moderator | Event Team Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cecil Stedmen Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 9 hours ago, Ya Boi Sawrunner said: +support, with some restrictions. I think, as long as there are no researchers who actively need an escort, that is fine, but if researchers need a RIS, so one actively escorting or one being requested can't be fucked with, but all the others are fair game. Since RIS appear to be more advanced than HLPRs and are combatants with better gear though, a harder roll should be implemented if this suggestion goes through. Think above is relatively fair in terms of implementing, if a hack occurs in the middle of helping a researcher. It'd just be voided and both parties would move on. +support Former SCPRP: CI R&D Chief Director of Operations || Research Administrator || RFA Operations Advisory || RRH Analyst Xray 77 || CI General || Senior Event Team || CI Lieutenant Commander || Exemplary Investigator Award Recipient || STF D4 Poseidon PL7 || A1 SPC "Quantum" Former ImperialRP: Naval Captain || Security Director || GM VI Former PoliceRP: EMS Captain || RRU Rapid Response Team Manager || FBI Assistant Director Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nydekore Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 15 hours ago, Weiss said: As a RIS unit is considered a combatant This is another thing I’d like to touch on. RIS are combatants. This would make it incredibly unfair for them to be neutralized (heck, worse, forced to work together with) in a roll off by someone that they don’t even know is their enemy. That’d be like letting a stealth op come up behind a CI and roll to see if they’re instantly killed. The only way I’d be even slightly okay with this suggestion is 1. Harsher roll guidelines and 2. Making it like brainwash RP where the RIS must consent to it (because I and many others do not enjoy actively counteracting our own branches because someone rolled well) Former: Deputy Head of Research | MTF Nu-7 Captain x2 | SCPRP Super Admin | MTF O-1 Major Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] funnyfish0 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 On 1/24/2022 at 8:06 AM, Sixx said: +Support I honestly think this would be a cool change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Boi Sawrunner Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 21 minutes ago, Nydekore said: This is another thing I’d like to touch on. RIS are combatants. This would make it incredibly unfair for them to be neutralized (heck, worse, forced to work together with) in a roll off by someone that they don’t even know is their enemy. That’d be like letting a stealth op come up behind a CI and roll to see if they’re instantly killed. The only way I’d be even slightly okay with this suggestion is 1. Harsher roll guidelines and 2. Making it like brainwash RP where the RIS must consent to it (because I and many others do not enjoy actively counteracting our own branches because someone rolled well) "By someone they dont know is their enemy" to be fair, everybody metagames EOI and Maynard, and they generally make it pretty clear they wanna hack. I used to play HLPR all the time, back when EOI was Sleuth and therefore like, 50x more active. Plus, HLPR bots are also turned into combatants when hacked cause generally speaking 9/10 times they are made into killbots and the 1/10 of escort is literally just "open doors and shoot people". Comparing it to stealth op doing an insta kill roll is like comparing 939 to 682, on paper they sound similarish, but there is so many differences beyond simple surface level shit and how many things follow that surface level interaction that changes everything. Besides, could make it like how maintenance can reset HLPR bots could have research do the same by "reprogramming" or something like that. Admitedly I would think HLPR bots being turned are worse because no one really bats an eye at them, so suddenly the harmless non combatant is now shooting you with an ithaca. Rolling counteracts so many peoples fun anyways. One roll determines whether you get to see in the site til maintenance drags themselves to EZ, one roll determines whether your half hour trying to breach becomes completely irrelevant, one roll determines whether your gambling addiction puts you in even more financial debt than you already were. Its another to a pile, but at least this one is an interestingly interactive one. Besides, why would RIS be safe but HLPR bots arent? CI would figure something out eventually. 4 hours ago, Avalon Levi said: i have watched ris units hurl themselves into crowds of CI with a golf club and a dream, they are still opposing combatant forces, aint no way in hell they stay out of each others business lmfao 1 Daddy D Boi |Previously CI SGM XB1 and RAM|Formerly Agent Starboi| CCs: Frank West | Doctor Samuel Hayden | Solid Snake | CI Recon Force | Drip Hank Hill | The O7 Bois (Owner of Sunsetters) The Femboi With The Fubar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItzGray Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 On 1/24/2022 at 2:03 AM, Nydekore said: -Support Our RIS units are a tool, something to allow our researchers to test in bad hours for combatants. They stay out of CI's business, we want to keep CI out of their business. Current: Former: | RRH Sierra 47 | | E11 LCPL | | MJ | | AR | | Gensec SM | | CI SFC | | CI IA | | M | | Nu7 DHFE Lieutenant Colonel | | HTF A4 Z Viper A4 | | AH1Z Viper | SCP-RP: | Former staff: 6/18/21 -> 11/18/21| | Staff 2x 2/26/22 -> 10/28/22 | | Joined: Apr, 2021~ | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasty Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 - Support The RIS unit is dedicated to escorting researchers, making it that they can be hacked will just take away the few escorts that researchers have. Former: O5-10 "The Mad General" / SCP-RP Head Admin / CI 2LT / Security CPT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 -Support As much as I like the idea, I don't think it will be practical in use, especially with R.I.S. Units being combatant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyelander Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 15 hours ago, Starstep said: -Support As much as I like the idea, I don't think it will be practical in use, especially with R.I.S. Units being combatant. |retired dhor/meritorious service award recipient||former CI 1lt/sm and E4 C2||Rho 36 Shaman| "For the day I die, imma touch the sky" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cecil Stedmen Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 18 hours ago, Starstep said: -Support As much as I like the idea, I don't think it will be practical in use, especially with R.I.S. Units being combatant. Former SCPRP: CI R&D Chief Director of Operations || Research Administrator || RFA Operations Advisory || RRH Analyst Xray 77 || CI General || Senior Event Team || CI Lieutenant Commander || Exemplary Investigator Award Recipient || STF D4 Poseidon PL7 || A1 SPC "Quantum" Former ImperialRP: Naval Captain || Security Director || GM VI Former PoliceRP: EMS Captain || RRU Rapid Response Team Manager || FBI Assistant Director Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PryingTree Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 On 1/24/2022 at 3:03 AM, Nydekore said: -Support Our RIS units are a tool, something to allow our researchers to test in bad hours for combatants. They stay out of CI's business, we want to keep CI out of their business. It wouldn't allow me to put a link in here so you are stuck with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuz L0g1c Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 On 1/24/2022 at 8:06 AM, Sixx said: +Support I honestly think this would be a cool change. W̵̠̽O̶̤̐̎͠R̷̨̯͇̘̓̓̐̚Ķ̶̨͙̌͗͋̐ ̷͎̻͈͘H̵̦̝̅́͝Ä̶̱̽R̷̔͊̀͜͠D̷̲̠̱͛͘ ̵̹̞͖͍̽͂Í̶̛̠́̎ͅÑ̶̟͈ ̸̭̖̋̀S̸̞̯͔̈́̍̈̽͜I̵̞̹̓͌̈́Ḹ̴͕̤̠̃Ë̶̘́͑Ṋ̵̰̞̀̏̄́C̸̼̱̏̑Ě̸͕̕͝ ̸͚͊͐͘Á̵̩̂̃N̶̩̦̈́Ḑ̷̲̣͐͐ ̷̨̣͇̄L̴̢̳̰̀̃E̸̙͗̏̕T̵̜́͛̿ ̴̝̯̠̐̇́S̸̠̣͋̆U̶̳̖̹̐C̶͙̩̽C̶̩̻̍̕E̷͈͖̓̈S̴͖͎̆͒͆͜S̸̥̞̗̠̀͌ ̶̫̩̬͂͛͝M̵͇̗͙͗͝͝A̶̛̬̦̾̿K̴̨̙̍ͅͅE̴̠͇̮͐͗́ ̵̳̲̅͑͝T̴͙͙̀̈́ͅH̶̢̎͛̈́̿E̴͈͖̹̔̂͝ ̴̹̯͓̂̈́N̶̦͌͒̔̎Ȍ̸̘͝I̴̭̠̅ͅS̸̭̼͋̕Ë̵́ A̵̙̥̭̠̓̅̎͘͝ͅ1̵̢̙̲̰̦̞͆͊ ̴̝̏́͑͂͝N̴̨͊̍o̸̖̦̬̅̑̇̍͠m̶̖̃a̸͉̤̜̪̘͑͌͝ḑ̶̘̣̬͇̈́ ̵͈̤̪͇̉͋̓̾Ỉ̴͓͔͍̻͖͕́͆͂̕͝ / Ş̵̧̛͙̙̼̌́͑̐͠T̶̢͔̫̿̓̿̅F̷̟̗̅̄̚ͅ ̷̝̈́̏̀̾̔̑D̸̰̓̾͌͝͝4̵̠̼̓̅̆͝͠ ̷̭̺͎̇H̸͚͖͇̃̀̋͘a̷̛͎͉̦̦̐̽́̑d̷̨͖͋e̵͍͒͆ś̵͈̪͓̞ ̸̣͉̄Ḍ̸̓I̶̩͖̖̟̯͒3̵̨̡̩͇̏̏ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fieryphonix Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 On 1/28/2022 at 8:35 PM, Toasty said: - Support The RIS unit is dedicated to escorting researchers, making it that they can be hacked will just take away the few escorts that researchers have. On 1/29/2022 at 12:52 AM, Starstep said: -Support As much as I like the idea, I don't think it will be practical in use, especially with R.I.S. Units being combatant. Ya - Support Research need somthing when gensec cant escort them so taking their ris units would just make it even harder for researchers to be able to RP harming research [Retired] CI RND CDOP Fiery Former: Security CPL | Delta-5 RCT | CI Military SGM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyanicZed Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 On 1/24/2022 at 7:33 AM, Beepis said: +/- support R.I.S units are meant to escort researchers when combatants are either low on numbers or unavailable and while the idea seems promising I wouldn't want to be a researcher who needs an escort and cant get one if the only RIS unit got hacked Former D5 MAJ | Former CI MAJ | Former G.O.C. CMDR What the hell is a D5 HCMD secretary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igneous Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Denied. The SCP-RP SMT has decided against adding this suggestion for performance reasons, the benefit to the server, or another unstated reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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