Pvp_Savage6767 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) Your In-game: PvpSavage Your SteamID: STEAM_0:1:183017865 The admin's name in-game: Noah Jimes The admin's steam name (If you know it): I don't know What warning did you receive: FearRp Evidence of the warn (REQUIRED): https://gyazo.com/97373e57d3a9b04d749994670b2147e1 Why do you think this warn was false: So basically. I had a government hostage when I was like at inner city gen store. Then, all of a sudden, when my gun was already out since I had a hostage. Like 3 UMC started rolling up and they were like with there guns put can you put down your gun. Which I kept it out since I had a hostage and I thought regardless it doesn't count when you have someone as hostage. Also, that I had my gun out in general. So, the warn is false since I had a hostage and my gun was out. proving that fearrp didnt exist in the situation. Obviously, someone would keep there gun out either way if gov or anyone was like held as hostage. Any extra information: When I made a forums post on the suggestions channel. Raddish even said that it wouldn't be breaking fearrp there. If this gets denied or claims that it's valid. Could SMT explain why this would be valid? It's like if this gets denied if possibly fearrp rules could get reworded to prevent situations like this. https://gyazo.com/2cb207ac5766dc3dbf012948c1929411 https://gyazo.com/14b73aaed348a1c0d8fc7195f70543cb @Noah Jimesif you also want to put your side of the story Edited January 31, 2021 by Pvp_Savage6767 FBI SAIC PD CPL Member since September of 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICE Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 - support I showed a clip to noah jimes of the situations and had 6 staff members come to the sit and confirmed that he was placed under fear rp because some randon person unrestrained his hostage ill look back at the clip and see if i caught it but after that he was still under fear rp with 3 guns on him and he still didnt put his gun away so the warn is not false 1 ICE "Won't let go, I'm the type to show you that you're too special, Please don't be the type to hate the things I do, And I'll ride for you, and I'll die for you!" - Juice WRLD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mag1c Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, OG ICE said: - support I showed a clip to noah jimes of the situations and had 6 staff members come to the sit and confirmed that he was placed under fear rp because some randon person unrestrained his hostage ill look back at the clip and see if i caught it but after that he was still under fear rp with 3 guns on him and he still didnt put his gun away so the warn is not false Not final until I get @Noah Jimesopinion even though I was at the sit. Also PvP, I think Alex was thinking about gov because you didn't state which one you were talking about. Edited January 31, 2021 by Mag1c State Command | SPRT Commander | PoliceRP Super Admin | SS Agent | FBI Agent | Umbrella Corp Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScruffyPlays Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, OG ICE said: - support I showed a clip to noah jimes of the situations and had 6 staff members come to the sit and confirmed that he was placed under fear rp because some randon person unrestrained his hostage ill look back at the clip and see if i caught it but after that he was still under fear rp with 3 guns on him and he still didnt put his gun away so the warn is not false Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvp_Savage6767 Posted January 31, 2021 Author Share Posted January 31, 2021 I also spoke to Mikey about the situation. He also thinks it's stupid that you would get a warn for it. As then, anyone could be put unde fearrp when you have a hostage and about to do a gen store rob. But mikey said to me that he won't be responding until Noah Jimes responds. FBI SAIC PD CPL Member since September of 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Jimes Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 9 minutes ago, OG ICE said: - support I showed a clip to noah jimes of the situations and had 6 staff members come to the sit and confirmed that he was placed under fear rp because some randon person unrestrained his hostage ill look back at the clip and see if i caught it but after that he was still under fear rp with 3 guns on him and he still didnt put his gun away so the warn is not false this is a simple case of you can’t please everyone. I had multiple admins, senior admins, and jmt to second me and they all agreed. i’ve explained to your privately already. in the video there was no hostage near by. you are completely isolated with 3 negevs on you. you were under fearrp you were outnumbered before the event began. you where isolated and running from them. Trooper SGT | PD SM | SPRT SGT | DOC SGT CO | SS SSO | SPHP Head PM | LOA Noah Jimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lildrummerdude Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 -support Hostage got unrestrained and wasn't there, thereby disqualifying as a hostage. If the hostage was still restrained, then the argument is reversed, but considering the hostage was not only unrestrained but apparently not present, doesn't count as a hostage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Jimes Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 7 minutes ago, Noah Jimes said: this is a simple case of you can’t please everyone. I had multiple admins, senior admins, and jmt to second me and they all agreed. i’ve explained to your privately already. in the video there was no hostage near by. you are completely isolated with 3 negevs on you. you were under fearrp you were outnumbered before the event began. you where isolated and running from them. not to mention. you didn’t bring this up in the sit. plus in the video it shows you on the side of the gas station by yourself. no gen store was going on so you’re lying here it seems like unless i’m not understanding. Trooper SGT | PD SM | SPRT SGT | DOC SGT CO | SS SSO | SPHP Head PM | LOA Noah Jimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvp_Savage6767 Posted January 31, 2021 Author Share Posted January 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, Noah Jimes said: not to mention. you didn’t bring this up in the sit. plus in the video it shows you on the side of the gas station by yourself. no gen store was going on so you’re lying here it seems like unless i’m not understanding. I thought that the video would also include me having the hostage in the video. As I had the hostage clearly and i my gun pointed out. Because of that. I was assuming that you would also check advert logs to see if I kidnapped someone. Since I did have someone as hostage. Replying to what he said- FBI SAIC PD CPL Member since September of 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Jimes Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 10 minutes ago, lildrummerdude said: -support Hostage got unrestrained and wasn't there, thereby disqualifying as a hostage. If the hostage was still restrained, then the argument is reversed, but considering the hostage was not only unrestrained but apparently not present, doesn't count as a hostage 3 minutes ago, Pvp_Savage6767 said: I thought that the video would also include me having the hostage in the video. As I had the hostage clearly and i my gun pointed out. Because of that. I was assuming that you would also check advert logs to see if I kidnapped someone. Since I did have someone as hostage. Replying to what he said- Which i did and then the hostage was set free before the fearrp thing happened. Trooper SGT | PD SM | SPRT SGT | DOC SGT CO | SS SSO | SPHP Head PM | LOA Noah Jimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer. Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 hour ago, OG ICE said: - support I showed a clip to noah jimes of the situations and had 6 staff members come to the sit and confirmed that he was placed under fear rp because some randon person unrestrained his hostage ill look back at the clip and see if i caught it but after that he was still under fear rp with 3 guns on him and he still didnt put his gun away so the warn is not false -Support Numerous Staff, Around 6-7 Staff already said it was a Valid Warning, and according to Smith the hostage was unrestrained so it didn't count as an actual hostage. Killer | Gaminglight Member Since 2016 | Retired PD Colonel l State Major l SPRT Co-Commander l FBI Assistant Director l UMC Level 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beansbutbeans Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 -support literally has 2 guns with guns on u that makes u under fearrp Beans UMC LVL 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack2221 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 -support bro I don't even play the server anymore and I already know you are in the wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyman21 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 -support Valid warn. you were under fearrp. Former: Dispatch Director | PD MAJ | SCU CPT | FBI SAIC/HRT/DEA | SCO19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mag1c Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 5 hours ago, lildrummerdude said: -support Hostage got unrestrained and wasn't there, thereby disqualifying as a hostage. If the hostage was still restrained, then the argument is reversed, but considering the hostage was not only unrestrained but apparently not present, doesn't count as a hostage 4 hours ago, Killer. said: -Support Numerous Staff, Around 6-7 Staff already said it was a Valid Warning, and according to Smith the hostage was unrestrained so it didn't count as an actual hostage. 4 hours ago, Noah Jimes said: Which i did and then the hostage was set free before the fearrp thing happened. State Command | SPRT Commander | PoliceRP Super Admin | SS Agent | FBI Agent | Umbrella Corp Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Admin Will Posted January 31, 2021 Head Admin Share Posted January 31, 2021 -Support Based off of what I've read from the post and comments, I am going to have to stay at a -Support for now. I saw a couple of times people mentioned a clip or video which would be nice to see if someone could upload it and post it here, might help clean up the story a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00 𝓓𝓪𝓻𝓴 00 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 6 hours ago, lildrummerdude said: -support Hostage got unrestrained and wasn't there, thereby disqualifying as a hostage. If the hostage was still restrained, then the argument is reversed, but considering the hostage was not only unrestrained but apparently not present, doesn't count as a hostage 『PoliceRP』: 〖 Ex CERT Commander 〗〖 Last Dispatch Director 〗 『 ImperialRP』: 〖 Ex Second Sister 〗〖 Ex Seventh Sister 〗 『Staff』: 〖 Ex PoliceRP Senior Admin 〗〖 Ex PoliceRP Senior Event Team 〗〖 Ex Senior Forums Diplomat 〗〖 Ex Support Supervisor 〗 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy James Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Denied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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