General Suggestion - Completely ban CC's with cloak sweps from entering D-Block under any circumstances [Completed]

[Ein]

What are you suggesting?

Any custom class equipped with a cloaking swep, including GENSEC/MTF CC's (nerfed or not) should be permanently banned from entering D-Block under any and all codes (Partial, Full, Hands-up, etc)

Cloaking in D-Block has always been a controversial topic, and currently we've restricted the 2 Foundation cloaking classes (Zeta-6 and Exspira) to only being able to enter on Partial Lockdown, and these classes only have 150/150. Custom classes on the other hand spawn with 200/200, and with a variety of weapons including sniper rifles, assault rifles, and literally anyone weapon you need to fight d-class. What this essentially means it is going to be essentially impossible for D-Class to riot, including CC's, now that anybody can just give $400 and get a cloaking device on their CC.

 

A custom class with the ability to cloak literally invalidates any reason to get Exspira because instead of "Oh, I'll have to work hard, be active, and get handpicked by Wardens HCMD to get this super special elite job!", it's now "Oh, I can just wait for a slot on a CC with a cloaking device and pay $30 to get a class that is even better than Exspira"

There is now literally 0 reason to play on Exspira or Zeta-6.

How would this change better the server?

Prevents D-Class from getting gunned down by a cloaker with 200/200 because he paid $30 to get a slot.

Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain.

CC owners would probably not be happy

Who would this change mostly benefit?

D-Class

Please link any workshop content, screenshots, or anything that you think may be helpful to those who view this suggestion

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Edited March 8, 2023 by Ein
clarified something

[lookatdatface]

-support  

banning a job that is a security job from entering d-block completely is just ridiculous cc or not a better suggestion will be to make it so jobs with the cloaking swep are simply not allowed to use it while in d-block  

[Tazza]

-support

if they paid alot of money for the cloak swep on their CC i think they should be able to use it where ever when ever

Edited March 9, 2023 by Tazza

[Ashe Fox]

-support

just have it to where you can’t be cloaked while in d block. This also would directly conflict with current GENSEC SOP guidelines, as you need perms to leave d block if you do not have a rank in gensec. But if you didn’t have a rank and had a cloak swep in your kit you just wouldn’t be able to leave spawn. 
 

so yeah, change it to “you can’t use the cloak swep in d block” and sure

[lookatdatface]

On second thought I Forgot mention that recently a suggestion regarding cloakers and d-block was accepted recently and the rules that were accepted in that suggestion regarding cloakers seems more than sufficient to keep cloakers in d-block balanced and that what is being suggested here is complete overkill and completely unsensical at this point there are more than enough restrictions on cloaking swep and regarding ccs with the cloaking swep invalidating any reason to play on expira is beyond an exaggeration if you consider how every cc has a max of 6 slots and that's it after if you want to add someone you need to remove someone who already has access to it and if you take into consideration how exclusive and rare is gonna be to have a cc with a cloaking swep it makes that statement simply un-true plus as you said you need pay 30$ to get added to cc most players wouldn't be willing to spend that much just to have access to a cc and would much rather play in order to gain access to a job with a cloaking swep not to mention that all of this is only valid to the security branch and even more specifically than that to the warden sub branch    

 

Edited March 9, 2023 by lookatdatface

[Ein]

1 hour ago, Tazza said:

+support

this effects all branches not just security, chaos infils cant enter if this gets passed, zeta-6 cant enter, alpha-1 cant enter, E-11 pathfinder cant enter, that one CI CC cant enter d-block, same with exspira, cloaking classes doesnt make the gun fun for anyone this wont even do much because they can still sit OUTSIDE d-block which is just as bad. so cope exspira nerds

This says custom classes exclusively.

[kari]

+support

No cloakers should be in D-block while cloaked whatsoever.

[Tazza]

1 hour ago, Ein said:

This says custom classes exclusively.

well you updated it after my thing so  

[Vuitheirt]

Maybe we could not allow a cloaking swep to be purchasable addition to a CC.

[Pure]

1 hour ago, Vuitheirt said:

Maybe we could not allow a cloaking swep to be purchasable addition to a CC.

+support if u go money for a damn cloak May as well add me to it but till then I’m +supporting this

[Kaizer]

+/-

I hereby quote my last suggestion post and adding onto it.

The CCs should fall under the same rules that Expira do if they are security based CCs.

The CCs should fall under the same NEW rules that Zeta-6 do if they are MTF.

Edited March 9, 2023 by Kaizer

[Sprink]

21 hours ago, Tazza said:

-support

if they paid alot of money for the cloak swep on their CC i think they should be able to use it where ever when ever

 

[Kevlar_]

They can no longer use their cloak swep in dblock

[Kevlar_]

Completed!

This suggestion is now in the server