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What are you suggesting? - well...make changes to Dr. Thaddeus Xyank

How would this change better the server? - Dr. Thaddeus Xyank is a level 100+ only researcher with a level 4 keycard, yet is only a JR researcher unless you have a rank in research. This is bad for 2 main reasons. 1: Grinding to level 100 only to be a JR researcher is pretty useless, and doesn't benefit any level 100+ players in the game. 2: Dr. Bright, a job that can be unlocked at gold (which is fairly cheap) , is considered (from what I heard) a SR and can test on safe-euclid SCPs. There is no reward for getting to level 100 to play as Dr. Thaddeus Xyank. Not to mention that it is just ridiculous to give a JR a level 4 keycard. I suggest making Dr TX at least a ER. I might be misunderstanding a few things about the job, but at least admin I'm right about a few things.

Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - There are no downsides (that I can think of)

Who would this change mostly benefit? - Lv 100+ players

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This is more for research HCMD to deal with but I believe that its crazy that Thaddeus can only test on JR stuff he should be able to test on Safe/Euclid/Keter EXCLUDING 106 imo. It's a lvl 100 job, most people who get on it won't do mingy test.

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I would ping Glados and Light but I can't find light and GLaDOS is JMT.

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ALL donator/level jobs are considered the lowest rank in the branch, if you don't have one. Bright is no exception.
Though, Bright is allowed to test on Safe/Euclid which, to be fair, JR's have most access to. Thaddeus should get similar allowances.

You should NOT be able to buy or grind for a rank.

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For clarity Dr Bright isn’t really considered an SR for anything but testing (even then not really as it’s only Euclids and Safes while SRs have some Keters). I’d say Xyank should have the same test perms so +support on that, however we’d have to update our SOP to state to not listen to Xyank players like Bright (for obvious reasons such as minges and fairness to our enlisted who earned their rank and shouldn’t be bossed around by someone who has served time over them)

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Going back to recon i dont think people would grind to 100 just to minge on research, but other than that i agree with both of you.

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28 minutes ago, Right Twix Bar said:

ALL donator/level jobs are considered the lowest rank in the branch, if you don't have one. Bright is no exception.
Though, Bright is allowed to test on Safe/Euclid which, to be fair, JR's have most access to. Thaddeus should get similar allowances.

You should NOT be able to buy or grind for a rank.

I agree with this. I dont think Thaddues should be considered EXPR, just like how bright isnt

4 minutes ago, Cintal said:

Going back to recon i dont think people would grind to 100 just to minge on research, but other than that i agree with both of you.

also tbh most people ive seen on xyank have had 2 weeks or less, so they bought the levels the same way youd buy gold

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15 hours ago, Cintal said:

Going back to recon i dont think people would grind to 100 just to minge on research, but other than that i agree with both of you.

Also all HCMD have perms to blacklist players from these jobs encase ppl do minge so in my opinion its ridiculous that this job isnt treated like a lvl 4 roleplay job.

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I can understand Euclid class SCP testing in HCZ, but its gonna be a hard no on keter classes, because whats the point in someone ranking up in the branch when they can just get on the LVL 100 Job and test on everything a LR can test on then people wont see the point in working hard to get to the high rank in research and earn there ways to test on higher lvl SCPs.

it would also cause people to just drop out of research because nothing to achieve for in the branch if they could just get access to it by no even having to be in the branch.

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30 minutes ago, islandtoad said:

I was under the impression whenever Thaddeus first was added he had the same clearance as foundation doctor. (Everything except 106)

+ support

Dear heavens no we don't give that to non-research personnel

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-Support 
Now usually with these things I would rather not care for because of the fact of if people do minge, then Research HCMD can deal with it. The only issue I have with this is if Thaddeus was able to test on everything except 106 then what would be the point of joining research? I think Thaddeus testing on Euclid SCPs is fine and if you're in Research and have that capability to test on a Keter then you may. Also what Moonrose said is perfect what would be the point of getting up to a high rank in Research if all you need is Level 100 to test on basically everything.

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13 hours ago, The Light said:

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Now usually with these things I would rather not care for because of the fact of if people do minge, then Research HCMD can deal with it. The only issue I have with this is if Thaddeus was able to test on everything except 106 then what would be the point of joining research? I think Thaddeus testing on Euclid SCPs is fine and if you're in Research and have that capability to test on a Keter then you may. Also what Moonrose said is perfect what would be the point of getting up to a high rank in Research if all you need is Level 100 to test on basically everything.

While i get your point, grinding to level 100 just to get the same perks as dr bright is useless. And for the point of joining research, you can get promoted in research. Its like saying "whats the point of joining Nu7 when you can get VIP and play as enforcer". Unless you are actually in the branch, you cant get promoted and be able to do more, like host trainings and mass tests. 

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On 11/10/2021 at 9:46 PM, Nydekore said:

For clarity Dr Bright isn’t really considered an SR for anything but testing (even then not really as it’s only Euclids and Safes while SRs have some Keters). I’d say Xyank should have the same test perms so +support on that, however we’d have to update our SOP to state to not listen to Xyank players like Bright (for obvious reasons such as minges and fairness to our enlisted who earned their rank and shouldn’t be bossed around by someone who has served time over them)

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On 11/10/2021 at 9:35 PM, recon said:

+ Support

This is more for research HCMD to deal with but I believe that its crazy that Thaddeus can only test on JR stuff he should be able to test on Safe/Euclid/Keter EXCLUDING 106 imo. It's a lvl 100 job, most people who get on it won't do mingy test.

@Moonrose Thoughts?

I would ping Glados and Light but I can't find light and GLaDOS is JMT.

 

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On 11/13/2021 at 4:00 PM, Cintal said:

While i get your point, grinding to level 100 just to get the same perks as dr bright is useless. And for the point of joining research, you can get promoted in research. Its like saying "whats the point of joining Nu7 when you can get VIP and play as enforcer". Unless you are actually in the branch, you cant get promoted and be able to do more, like host trainings and mass tests. 

See, what you think is a perk and what is a way of receiving said perk is backwards. Trainings and mass tests are how you get lowered restrictions because that’s how we know who’s active and looking to help the branch. Level 100 players have done nothing for research directly, why should we give them the same roleplay permissions as our Senior Command? 

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On 11/11/2021 at 5:58 PM, Coltable said:

Also all HCMD have perms to blacklist players from these jobs encase ppl do minge so in my opinion its ridiculous that this job isnt treated like a lvl 4 roleplay job.

Tbh most people i see on Thadd just take pics of d4 and teleport lol 

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On 11/13/2021 at 5:02 AM, The Light said:

-Support 
Now usually with these things I would rather not care for because of the fact of if people do minge, then Research HCMD can deal with it. The only issue I have with this is if Thaddeus was able to test on everything except 106 then what would be the point of joining research? I think Thaddeus testing on Euclid SCPs is fine and if you're in Research and have that capability to test on a Keter then you may. Also what Moonrose said is perfect what would be the point of getting up to a high rank in Research if all you need is Level 100 to test on basically everything.

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Simple solution grind on maynard and tell research to fuck off if they try to not let you test on 106 😄 +support

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