Popular Post Zombinator Posted June 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 12, 2021 What are you suggesting? - I am suggesting making research during any code "Research at your own risk" and allowing even Junior Researchers to research during any code. I am suggesting extending the non-combatant status of the Researcher/Class-D/Security combination during testing to the hallways meaning when you see a Class-D in a restraint with a Security and a Researcher in the hallway you are to treat them as if they are currently inside of a containment cell and performing research RP. How would this change better the server? - Research on Gaminglight requires enough Security for an escort along with the proper code level for your rank as a Researcher and whatever SCP you're wanting to work with being online. Every time Chaos Insurgency, who is extremely active, raids The Foundation a Code Black is called, effectively locking out 90% of Research staff from leaving their spawn. Class-D, generally the most populated faction, are often left in D-Block with nothing to do which leads to escape attempts and frequent riots. When a riot is going on, Researchers are turned away and left with nothing to do. Generally speaking, lower level Researchers are largely unable to do anything. If a Class-D is here for roleplay they are largely left out to dry. If a Class-D decides they can't do anything, they log off the server. If a Class-D becomes a Researcher and finds out they can't do anything, they log off the server. I want this server to be full. I want new players to feel like this is an RP server, not a Team Death Match server. I want Gaminglight to succeed to the point where we have to kick AFKs to make room for active players, not promote AFKing. To this end, I urge you to consider the possibility of focusing on Research on your SCP-RP server. I urge you to give Researchers a chance to elevate the server to the true greatness it is capable of. There is no Class D commander to vote for changes that help them actually have something to do aside from riot. There is no SCP commander to vote for changes that help them actually have something to do aside from breach. Research is so much more important than combat and deserves more of a place at the table than a single commander can feasibly provide. For every one Research idea, there are three military branch commanders that have the ability to silence it. Please consider the following carefully, and understand that Class-Ds, SCPs and Researchers must all rely on the Research branch for any help in promoting RolePlay growth on your RolePlay server! If you abolish the necessity to basically log off of your Research job during the vast majority of codes, you will see a tremendous growth in the amount of legitimate research occuring. You will see many more Research logs because the opportunity to experiment with old ideas will be that much more available. After newer players accomplish enough testing with the same old standby ideas, they will seek new and more progressive testing and the general level of roleplay for the entire server will rise. Allowing more new players the opportunity to roleplay will help new and shy people to explore the creative parts of themselves that real life and combat stifle. We have the opportunity to help people escape their real lives and immerse themselves in something that much greater, we would do ourselves and them a great service by maximizing their opportunities to do so. We already prohibit people from interfering with tests that are ongoing, I suggest that we extend this protection to Researchers/Class-D/Security that are moving in a group to a containment to perform testing. They are already technically engaged in testing RolePlay and should be granted the permissions that already come with this duty. Render an established testing group consisting of Researcher/Class-D/Security as non-combatants for all intents and purposes, grant them the immunity to disruption in the hallways that they already possess while in a containment cell and maximize your roleplay opportunities. They are not to engage in combat and they are not to be harmed, allow the Research RolePlay to flourish and reap the benefits. The benefits of more Research roleplay are mighty and varied, the first and most potent is that Class-D will know they can actually be utilized for scientific roleplay and they will be that much less likely to riot or minge. This provides new players a great taste of what Gaminglight is capable of, instead of just playing prison RP at best, Team Death Match at worst. The next benefit is that Secuirty will get to experience the science roleplay was well, minimizing the feeling of Team Death Match and the animosity that is bound to be fostered by the guard/prisoner relation being the only thing that really occurs. Less riots mean more chances for legitimate roleplay experiences for everyone involved in D-Block. This change will promote activity in the Security sector, one of the first stops for new players. The next benefit, and most obvious, will be for the Researchers. Researchers have become very scarce, the constant dangerous codes like the seemingly ever-present Code Black prevent new researchers from ever setting foot outside of bunks. People are disinterested in the Research branch with good reason, you basically can't even play it. If they were allowed outside during all codes with a word of caution, understanding that they take a risk and are left to their own recognizance, they would become a much more active branch. An SCP-RP server is only as good as the SCP research. The *only* thing that makes us different from a military RP server is the SCPs and the research surrounding them. If allowed to properly research, the benefits will be untold. The gross majority of roleplay on an SCP server is performed by the Researchers interacting with the SCPs and this should be both fostered to grow and protected from harm. The Research department will grow exponentially if they are actually allowed to do their job. The next benefactors of these changes are the SCPs themselves. To be frank, the level of roleplay available to SCPs currently is despicable. There is so little genuine research, even during mass testing, that they have next to nothing to do aside from breaching. If Researchers are allowed to actively research, the SCPs will be stimulated to new heights, allowing new personality quirks and new nuances to develop in existing players and promoting new players to seek out the SCP roles. This will promote SCP activity and actively promote donations for VIP levels so that players can have access to new roleplay potential. As it is now, with the lack of research, most SCP roles are constantly empty. There is nothing to do if no one is breaching you and no one is testing on you. With these changes, you will see a renaissance of SCP activity. The MTF will benefit from these changes as well as the CI military in that more roleplay opportunities will promote more SCP activity and more SCPs will be seeking roleplay. Less murderous breachers will mean more overall stability and knowing that you can perform research roleplay easily will promote legitimate roleplayers into the SCP roles which greatly heightens the chances of an SCP that you run into in the hallways will want to roleplay with you rather than simply snap your neck silently. It will make encounters more frequent by promoting activity, more varied by promoting more players to take on less-used SCPs and more stimulating by promoting legitimate roleplayers to take on these roles. CI R&D will certainly benefit from these changes every bit as much as Researchers. More rarely used SCPs and more roleplayers means more opportunities to get their hands on SCPs and even some Foundation members as these changes will stimulate activity in currently dead regions of the facility. Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - Having to take the time to identify if a Researcher/Class-D/Security unit is a target or not will lead to slower firing. There will be a level of confusion in the hallways leading to slower firefights as people verify their targets. Who would this change mostly benefit? - Researchers, undoubtedly. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gaming Goat Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 +Support This would need alot of time and effort to get working in the server and would require a little revision in order for it to work. There is a minor risk with JRs abusing this but defenetly would help the research branch and the whole server. Too many times have i seen research crowding in bunks during a code black just to watch them swarm dblock after it changes. I understand why the code rules are in place but the problom is its almost always code black/red due to how easy it is to breach. I hope this or something similar to it can be put into the server as it would benifite research as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domino Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 (edited) +Support Love the idea Researcher as a whole gets very boring when you cannot do any tests because its a code black/red and sometimes the code black/red persists for 20 minutes or more When i was a JR-ADV R i hated every single time i had to be put in the bunks because of a code black/red every single time i had to be in there i debated to myself to just give up on being a Researcher. not only that this idea gives more opportunes to RIS (Researcher Intelligence Sentinels) units to do there Job Same with HMR (Hazardous materials researcher) more RP could occur. This would really benefit researchers. and also dclass as they dont get shot up every second. though JR's could minge with it but overall its a good idea Edited June 12, 2021 by Domino "What do you mean, i cant murder you..." " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jummy Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 (edited) Ok, this is a big one. VERY BIG +/- SUPPORT LEANING TOWARDS - I think the whole research having more freedom thing makes WONDERS for the site, any non-combatant should be able to atleast have a chance to do their job during Code Black. Full on freedom CANNOT work, Code: Red is way too dangerous, and most combatants are too busy at the moment. If research/medical were to have something like an HLPR bot, (not combatant) that could help researchers and not be shot at with no reason would be GREAT! I just don't think giving MTF/GENSEC combatant status during escorting works, cause there's always that 1 E4, or that 1 mingy fucker that joined 2 minutes ago. In a perfect world, we could have this all, but SCP-RP isn't perfect. EDIT: Ok gonna also add this other point onto my arguement with this. IF YOU CHANGE SOMETHING WITH ONE BRANCH IT WILL HEAVILY AFFECT ANOTHER BRANCH. MOST OF THIS SUGGESTION WILL HEAVILY AFFECT COMBAT BRANCHES, AND THEY'RE IMPORTANT TOO. Edited June 13, 2021 by Jummy Research Administrator | R.A.U. Commissioner | External Agent 3 "Oyasumi" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Grayson Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 10 hours ago, The Gaming Goat said: +Support This would need alot of time and effort to get working in the server and would require a little revision in order for it to work. There is a minor risk with JRs abusing this but defenetly would help the research branch and the whole server. Too many times have i seen research crowding in bunks during a code black just to watch them swarm dblock after it changes. I understand why the code rules are in place but the problom is its almost always code black/red due to how easy it is to breach. I hope this or something similar to it can be put into the server as it would benifite research as a whole. EX MAJ In MIL EX A2 In E4 Current VCMDR Of Sarkic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Fizz-y Soda Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 +Huge Support Yes. This is always something I've wanted to see happen for Research AND maintenance. Being stuck in bunks all the time is extremely annoying and makes it very difficult to do anything. Even on codes where you are allowed to roam, you still have to be cautious as anything can happen at any time. Whether it be an SCP breach or loose D class, there is always danger in the site. Understandably, you should remain in the bunks for your safety, but you are already at risk for working in the site. More importantly, the thing about not being able to go out during certain codes, is the location of the incident. Sometimes the problem can be isolated in HCZ, but all researchers in LCZ still have to remain in bunks. This also prevents maintenance from helping unless they have CS or are the appropriate rank. But if they are stuck in bunks all the time, it's harder for them to reach that rank. CI CMDR / CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack (utility one) Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 +support I think this would be a big benefit for the server but a few things gonna have to go down. 1st is improvement in communication as to where threats are, as if it's in HCZ people need to SAY it's there and such. Next is rules in place to which counts as in-RP, OOC, non-combatant-RP (NCRP) and who can do what during these encounters. Like any rank/job can attack these people during these NCRP moments, what your describing, and such. But these rules are in place to ADD RP as in RP I doubt some low ranking research lad would be out when even a Euclid SCP is out. As well more people out can get in MTF and Security's way and cause some havoc. If I had a dollar for every clueless JR I've shot when they got in my way I would be able to fund all GL. So this is an iffy one but could go down. There are gods in Alabama: Jack Daniel's, high school quarterbacks, trucks, big tits, and also Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Boi Sawrunner Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 HUGE + support I can never get enough time to do anything on research, its obsolete doing stuff during the constant code blacks and higher of the daytime, and during the night its a miracle if the D-class to test on arent currently freely crip walking through the entire foundation. I would love to not have to shove myself into a box and wait for a code that may never change for hours at a time. Daddy D Boi |Previously CI SGM XB1 and RAM|Formerly Agent Starboi| CCs: Frank West | Doctor Samuel Hayden | Solid Snake | CI Recon Force | Drip Hank Hill | The O7 Bois (Owner of Sunsetters) The Femboi With The Fubar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Stream Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 HUGE +SUPPORT, I had the pleasure of speaking to this man and this suggestion is well thought out and a really great idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWNED Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 This is a weird one, but im gonna +Support everything, except for the JRs being allowed out during any code; thats still a +/-Support from me It does totally suck as a researcher to be stuck in bunks when codes that, more often than not, happen quite often. only issue I could see with this is the potential of blooming toxicity between branches as during these kinds of codes, most combatant branches arent available to escort, leaving research with not much to do as most tests do require an escort. as for JRs being allowed out during any code, Im on the fence but leaning more towards a -Support The purpose of JR, and imo AR, is for 2 main reasons: to let people test out the branch and see who is actually there to try or just to minge. giving JRs and ARs the ability to just go out whenever they want isnt exactly the best thing to do and I feel could lead to a lot of issues Former E11 1LT/Head Ranger, Former Event Team/Staff Member| GENSEC SGT Foundation Chef <- me when the quiet guy in D-block begins to reach into his pocket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Slim Nova Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 +Support As stated from many people, the JR being allowed to roam, and exit Research Bunk's would not be acceptable. But one thing I would agree with is how often Code Black, and Code Red is called. And as @OWNED stated, JR's and AR's are introduced into the branch onto a watch period; Basically to figure out their behaviour. Letting them roam would not be a great idea. The picture explains what I am. [DATA EXPU-] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloaker Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 +Support With the server being mainly combative a lot of the time lower ranking researchers will have to stay in bunks, with this addition lower ranks in research will stick around longer and have a more enjoyable time. local teenage father :3 Retired: ci ddop cloaker s1mp Ex Senior Moderator Ex Event Team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgnisNuts Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 18 hours ago, Cloaker said: +Support With the server being mainly combative a lot of the time lower ranking researchers will have to stay in bunks, with this addition lower ranks in research will stick around longer and have a more enjoyable time. CI CMDRCC: CI Requiem Squad XH-76 Biggest DMC Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltable Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 @ZombinatorSo previously about a year ago we had rules in place that disallowed CI to interact with "Non-combatants" but the issue was Non-combatants abused this rule and followed CI around calling them out 24/7, this resulted in the rule being removed and we were left with what we have today. With your suggestion i would say having it so any researcher who is in "Role-play" as you would say, would not be allowed to interact or call out CI, the Gensec/Dclass/Researcher would all be in a way OOC towards CI. We would need strict rules in relation to the GENSEC personnel such as "you must stick with your researcher at all times" and have your gun on safety etc etc. I personally would love the idea of CI not being allowed to interact with any non-combatants (besides E4) and non-combatants ignoring CI also, In a perfect world we would have it so both the "Death match" side of the server and the "Role-play" side work hand in hand together now we don't live in a perfect world BUT we sure as hell can try to get close to it. I can see this working, Might be a little weird at first but im sure if the Site Admin boys upstairs put their pea brains together they can sort that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexxxx Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 +Support Seems good to me! O5 Former: DT CPT , CGO - Tenn Graneet , 31st VCMDR -> Havoc CMDR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STONKSMAN Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 massive + support we need more rp around these parts pardner RETIRED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkrat Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 + Support thats a great thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gameboi Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 + Support really needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangiatea Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Denied. The SCP-RP SMT has decided against adding this suggestion for performance reasons, the benefit to the server, or another unstated reason. "A good soldier obeys without question. A good officer commands without doubt." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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