Ruben On The Radio Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Disclaimer: I have no hate/ dislike to anyone mentioned in the report. I believe (among a few others) that this isnt according to the rules therefore leaving it up to staff to make a decision Your In-Game Name: Ruben Your SteamID: STEAM_0:0:56836889 Staff member's In-Game Name: Parry Muhammad (STEAM_0:1:535368944) What did they do?: There was a money silo inside this base. The only acces point is on the roof which you cannot get to without taking around 70 HP Damage. The owners (muhammad family) claimed that it was approved by Will and Zerg. After consulting with will and got a staff member to talk to zerg we found out that Will nor Zerg approved this base as the family including parry claimed. Accusations on a list: Lying to fellow staff and knowingly partaking in a failbase whilst being a staff member Evidence (REQUIRED): https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2370365842, With all this evidence you can see that zerg didnt approve it nor did Will as parry stated in chat Involved Staff: Will, Zerg, Austinnn, Earl Scruggs and parry Involved Players: Trever, Vergil, Other PD units What do you think is an acceptable punishment? Strike/Demotion: Strike Here we see the base itself and its only entry point. The white square. Here we see that Parry is involved in the base due to the VOIP proximity. Here is the chat between me and Will regarding if he validated the base. Chat between staff member Austinnn handling my report on the base and zerg regaring him validating the base "When something is important enough, you do it even if the odds are not in your favor. " - Elon Musk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tEDDY34 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) -Support he did approve it. https://gyazo.com/1978354ba19b79097fb5986416331b04 will told us to change the material for the entry tube since it was considered a kill box. Not a failbase. Edited January 22, 2021 by tEDDY34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parry Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) -Support Will Approved our after you left so..... Doesn't break any rules (EDIT) Zerg did come and check out the base but ig he just didn't see the entrance Zerg should tell that we had him come and check out our exit Edited January 22, 2021 by Parry Its Parry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruben On The Radio Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 It not all about the base itself please read the entire report "When something is important enough, you do it even if the odds are not in your favor. " - Elon Musk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tEDDY34 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Just now, Ruben On The Radio said: It not all about the base itself please read the entire report I did read the report, you said that parry lied about the approval. Theres your SS. It's not a failbase either according to will who did a thorough examination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Spoon Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 -Support -Has Admin Approval already -Zerg did in fact speak with Parry and see parts of the base therefor making Parry's claim of talking to zerg already truthful. 1 USMS HC | PD Major | SYP Owner CC's | UMC RENEGADE/OG/VONTON/DOCTOR/Numb Gang/ Adams Crime Syndicate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) -support Will reviewed it and declared that it wasn't a failbase, the night before Will reviewed a different base we had, and he told us to remove it or change it because it was too high, he said it would be ok if we changed it to under the tube1x1x8, so Will approved of it as long as we fixed it, which we did. We asked Zerg if the base was fail, and he said it was ok. When Zerg came there was a ramp there, but that was only for building so I removed it after, just a simple misunderstanding, so no one lied. Edited January 22, 2021 by india goat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal_Arts Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Maybe I’m missing something but how is mandatory damage for just getting down to the base not against any rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniEpic Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 +Support From all -Supports he did say Lying to staff to so you did lie to staff and you still broke that rule. Also i do not know but this does not look like staff rule breaking looks more like a Player Report... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 minute ago, MiniEpic said: +Support From all -Supports he did say Lying to staff to so you did lie to staff and you still broke that rule. Also i do not know but this does not look like staff rule breaking looks more like a Player Report... How did he lie to staff? Will said if we fixed the base to the requirements he approves of it, and we fixed it, so saying that Will approved the base is not a lie, and Zerg did approve of the base, he just didn't notice the roof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICE Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, MiniEpic said: +Support From all -Supports he did say Lying to staff to so you did lie to staff and you still broke that rule. Also i do not know but this does not look like staff rule breaking looks more like a Player Report... ICE "Won't let go, I'm the type to show you that you're too special, Please don't be the type to hate the things I do, And I'll ride for you, and I'll die for you!" - Juice WRLD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffTheSniper Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 - support There's seems to be miscommunication somewhere when you asked zerg/will about the base if anything I think this should end in a verbal if there is anything wrong. I also heard about this base from them and heard you fall into water but I'm not completely sure what rule it break. If anything about it is a failbase it would be considered the entrance where you have to fall. I also think you shouldn't pick one player to report considering it wasn't just parry involved. I understand about the lying part but as I see from the other point of views there were miscommunication. Overall -support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerg Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) I just want to say that I didn't see the base when it done, when I came to you it was still being built. When I did come they asked me about a shooting window and I told them they could have it. Edited January 22, 2021 by Zerg PoliceRP SMT | Head Admin | Head Of Support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prada Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 -support Pretty sure parry would lie to others and staff while being command in a department and part of staff clearly was approved by several mods Ya let me put all my ranks of all the departments I was in (ex fbi pa, ex dispatch, ex snr) cringe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Illusion Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 -support -This seems to be in the wrong section first off. -Clear Miscommunication between the two players being mentioned(Admin and Parry) which doesn't mean he's lying it could have just been a miscommunication or misrepresentation of words. Definetly not worth a report though. This report seems kinda useless, as if there was miscommunication it wouldn't take more than asking an admin to come base check it which they did and ended up approving of the base. Therefor this didn't have to go any farther than small conversation and a report seems salty and overreached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffTheSniper Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 I also think this should be under player report instead of staff considering he wasn't on duty and not abusing staff powers. Staff reports should be when a staff abuses their power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piemp Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 +/- Support Should be a player report not a staff report I have been told by many people when I am on that its a fail base and they were calling it a trap base but I am yet to see inside Delta Force~PPD Ex SS Deputy Assistant Director~Ex SRT SGT~Ex Swat MSGT Ex SNR Mod/Senior Event Team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZE.. Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 45 minutes ago, 𝖕𝖎𝖒𝖕 said: +/- Support Should be a player report not a staff report I have been told by many people when I am on that its a fail base and they were calling it a trap base but I am yet to see inside SPRT Staff SGT OG SGT State MSTRSGT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Admin Will Posted January 22, 2021 Head Admin Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 hours ago, tEDDY34 said: -Support he did approve it. https://gyazo.com/1978354ba19b79097fb5986416331b04 will told us to change the material for the entry tube since it was considered a kill box. Not a failbase. -Support I reviewed the base after I had sent those discord messages Ruben shows, which is he is correct, I did not approve of this base being used until after they had modified the base and argued with them for a bit. I feel that the base should not be used as it can be considered a trap base seeing as the only way to get into the base is to jump off a cliff, taking damage in the process. The only reason why I am -Supporting this is because there was nothing broken in the staff handbook that . did in this situation (other than maybe argue with a staff member, but still minor). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~𝓢𝓞𝓤𝓛~ Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 -support why is this a staff report PD SM | SWAT LT | SL Consigliere MLG Pro Negev player #buffthenegev2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffTheSniper Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 I also see this as SMT should update or review the MOTD rule for failbase. The MOTD should also be taken in to detail about some of the other rules so minges cant try to argue it doesn't say that in the MOTD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternity Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 So this is more of a player report then a staff report but here is my understanding.. Most likely mis communication between the staff. Also there is no staff abuse found in this report. PoliceRP Manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternity Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Denied PoliceRP Manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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