Jeffe Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Your In-game: JeffeYour SteamID: STEAM_1:0:59895011 The admin's name in-game: Fame Yuki The admin's steam name (If you know it): What warning did you receive: Throwing a flash bang at innocent civilians Evidence of the warn (REQUIRED): http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1320751251 Why do you think this warn was false: There was a huge riot at spawn and Jacket and Myan wanted help controlling it and asked me to throw a flash into the crowd and I did then get pulled into a sit and am told im being warned Any extra information: I think that not only should this warn get removed but Fame should get talked to because he actually hurt the efforts to stop the riot and interrupted the RP of the riot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonyjhafner Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 SUPPORT I saw the whole thing and civilians in spawn where getting shot at and killed so the man had no choice but to throw a flash bang. Definitely justified because he saved my life in spawn and many others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL]MyanDaBeast Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 +SupportThere was about a third of the server (about 20 people) rioting. We had no choice but to flashbang the area, there were too many people at spawn. Most of the people who were rioting got minged as well. This shoudn't be a warn. He had a right to throw a flashbang at a riot. PoliceRP I Head Admin I PD: Colonel I Retired SWAT Commander I Deputy Sheriff I ImperialRP I Retired Grand Inquisitor I 47th Battalion I Chimaera Legion I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Edwards Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 +supportSWAT was dealing with a massive FailRP riot, and it was getting out of control with people screaming about the riot. The flashbang did nothing harmful to the crowd and it was dealing with the riot in a non harmful way, that is the best possible outcome of the riot, to flashbang, and the fact that you got warned for it, makes no sense. Police RP Military RP Police Corporal RU PFC Jason SWAT Staff Sergeant XL11/SWAT FTO USMC SGT Jason Moderator/Support Staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
th3 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 I dont think that would have required a warn, perhaps for failrp, but if it was going along with rp then it could have been handled in rp.+Support if jacket responds. SCPRP Head of Staff Lead Discord Administrator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMS Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 +supportSWAT was dealing with a massive FailRP riot, and it was getting out of control with people screaming about the riot. The flashbang did nothing harmful to the crowd and it was dealing with the riot in a non harmful way, that is the best possible outcome of the riot, to flashbang, and the fact that you got warned for it, makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fame Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 while calling staff you flash banged the civs, you're not supposed to flash bang civilians use your riot shields and call admins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eman Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Major +SupportFirst Rioting is not able to happen due to server rulesSecond, Flash only blinds temporarily and doesn't do damage. They used it at discretion and it was all FailRP since it was a riot to this is a very false warn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Croft Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 +SupportThere was about a third of the server (about 20 people) rioting. We had no choice but to flashbang the area, there were too many people at spawn. Most of the people who were rioting got minged as well. This shoudn't be a warn. He had a right to throw a flashbang at a riot. it not a warnable reason first off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL]MyanDaBeast Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 while calling staff you flash banged the civs, you're not supposed to flash bang civilians use your riot shields and call adminsThey were entering the elevator and we were getting overrun, we had no choice. The flashbang was nonlethal. If it was mustard gas, then it would've been a valid warn. But it was a flashbang to people who were rioting. PoliceRP I Head Admin I PD: Colonel I Retired SWAT Commander I Deputy Sheriff I ImperialRP I Retired Grand Inquisitor I 47th Battalion I Chimaera Legion I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fame Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Lol get the whole swat to flood this post. you're not supposed to flash bang civs your abusing your weapons. you should have let staff deal with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Croft Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 They were entering the elevator and we were getting overrun, we had no choice. The flashbang was nonlethal. If it was mustard gas, then it would've been a valid warn. But it was a flashbang to people who were rioting.please don't argue on post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL]MyanDaBeast Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Alright, Ill let SMT decide. PoliceRP I Head Admin I PD: Colonel I Retired SWAT Commander I Deputy Sheriff I ImperialRP I Retired Grand Inquisitor I 47th Battalion I Chimaera Legion I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 while calling staff you flash banged the civs, you're not supposed to flash bang civilians use your riot shields and call admins SWAT PVT Hannah XR39-CPL Hannah King XC65 - Hannah King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson-Surpant Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Major +SupportFirst Rioting is not able to happen due to server rulesSecond, Flash only blinds temporarily and doesn't do damage. They used it at discretion and it was all FailRP since it was a riot to this is a very false warn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abel Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Lol get the whole swat to flood this post. you're not supposed to flash bang civs your abusing your weapons. you should have let staff deal with itFirst off in real life cops have had to flash bang civs if the riots got too intense or pepper spray them, Now I don’t see why he was warned for breaking a rule, this was a great RP scenario because if he did flash bang civilians for an unfair reason a high ranking officer could have demoted him or punish him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fame Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 riots aren't allowed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abel Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 (edited) riots aren't allowed than why punish the swat member? Also weapon abuse or flashbang abuse is not even a rule in the MOTD, There is also no rule against using a flash bang on a civilian. So technically this warn is false warning. There is actually no rules against flash bangs right now meaning anyone can go crazy with it. I think all staff should take a look at the MOTD and have it with them to every sit they take. Edited March 4, 2018 by Abel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abel Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Actually there is no rule against rioting or flashbang use, Where are you guys getting this rules from? The fact that all staff agree with the warn scares me tbh. Thats is why you should have activated martial law. Is there another rule book out there somewhere? If not than this rules need to be updated.@Snarlax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abel1216 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 than why punish the swat member? Also weapon abuse or flashbang abuse is not even a rule in the MOTD, So technically this warn is false warning. I think all staff should take a look at the MOTD and have it with them to every sit they take.And the guy who arrange it should be unbanned because currently there is no rule against rioting, that's on the MOTD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffe Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 And the guy who arrange it should be unbanned because currently there is no rule against rioting, that's on the MOTDIt was PixelCat and he was minging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abel1216 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 +SupportThe guy arranging it has been banned do not worry but tbh you don't use flashes against civ but warn reason is wrong The guy who arranged it should be unbanned because there is no rule against rioting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 It was PixelCat and he was minging And the guy who arrange it should be unbanned because currently there is no rule against rioting, that's on the MOTDrioting is under the cop bait rule SWAT PVT Hannah XR39-CPL Hannah King XC65 - Hannah King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abel1216 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 (edited) rioting is under the cop bait rule PD High Command can activate Martial Law at any time, However, a VALID reason must be given. Example - Riots/Shooting At Government/Out Of Control Gang's why is this rule not against rioting? If that the case than anything illegal any civs do would be considered cob baiting Edited March 4, 2018 by Abel1216 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Croft Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 please stop arguing on the post all you need to say is + support or - Support and a reason just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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