Sixx

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You were an amazing CMD member Comet, see ya around.

That would be something I would like

You were an amazing 1LT Hiro and I hope you have fun in Omi9 man, this seems very out of the blue.

That is false. After looking over the MOTD and talking to starstep that rule only applies to MTF, not Security. As it states under the Foundation Staff Section, Rule 9, Sub-Section 2; "One MTF member adverting thermals allows all other MTF members to activate their thermals for the same reason." If that rule was true then I wouldn't give Riot Control Thermals.

If this is true then I will remove Thermals from Riot Control.

They are the only Class that can cross the Blue line to actually counter an Inf. No other class including all MTF and all of Security classes cant cross it. With the new Black barrier CI Infs can camp GenSec even harder now.

I've already done that.

-Support The point of Riot Control to have thermals is so GenSec isn't defenseless against CI Infs in D-Block. It isn't like Riot Control will be wandering around LCZ looking for CI, they will be in D-Block and if there's an infill GenSec actually have a chance to defend themselves instead of getting absolutely demolished. If GenSec are sitting in D-Block and getting picked off constantly by an infiltrator what would make them even want to stay on the server if they just die over and over again to someone they stand 0 chance against. Also the Ithaca is GARBAGE especially considering all the D-Class CCs, powerful donator weapons, and CS:GO knives it makes sense for them to have a good shotgun. When it comes to NCOs having thermals here is my reasoning for adding them. Yesterday when I was on the server a SM was leading a patrol of 3 other people and came across a CI Inf. They some the Inf for a second but couldn't call thermals or do anything about it! The inf then proceeded the pick the patrol off 1 by one and the SM with the multiple enlisted were helpless. After some with my fellow HCMD and some SA+ they brought up a point which is " I would be fine with it as long as they can enter HCZ they could get thermals any job that patrols there should have them incase of invis SCPs" which makes a lot of sense so when they are escorting research/patrolling LCZ and come across 966 they can actually defend themselves! Thus after doing some more considering I added thermals to SGT+ since they do escorts in HCZ. You have to remember that you need to be sneaky when on inf. When there isn't much MTF online like yesterday when there was a max of like 12 and for later in the night was 3 across all the branches GenSec had no way to defend from CI Infs and 966. It isn't like Security will be calling thermals willy nilly, you have to mess up in some way for them to actually call them HOWEVER I will be removing Thermals from Junior NCOs but they will remain on Senior NCOs (MSGT+). Now I will address some points people made in this thread, I will be removing them from Junior NCOs. I think people that spend weeks in Security deserve to have Thermals. By doing this I effectively just took Thermals away from 70 people in my branch. We aren't a "Lesser MTF", get that stigma out of your head. We are our own branch and do separate things to what MTF does, just because we are the main branch that leads people to MTF doesnt make us a lesser version of them. Well MTF aren't inactive however a good amount of the time there aren't many of them online to deal with all the SCPs breaches and CI raid and GenSec needs to defend themselves / help MTF. I've again removed Thermals from Junior NCOs which removes it from 70+ people in GenSec however if someone spends weeks of their time working there way up in GenSec, Protect Research, and do patrols, I believe they need Thermals. If infils are sniping in the back of D-Block Snipers don't have Thermals to combat the Infs and the infs can snipe, cloak, and reposition. The strategy you suggest sounds good however we cannot do that and there can only be a max of 5 Riot Control online not 6 and there can be up to 2 infs. I'm not sure why Ape said "Get Good" and I will be addressing that mentality at the Security Main Meeting. MTF Cannot cross the Blue Line to deal with infs that sit in the back and snipe. Riot are litterally the ONLY ONES who can pass thatline and deal with up to 2 Infs, and remember the slots are usually never full and Juggs cant cross the blue line and Snipers don't have Thermals!! Thermals isnt an MTF exclusive and Security need a way to defend against CI Infs that love to camp GenSec because they don't have thermals! Infs usually like staying in D-Block for awhile to kill GenSec over and over again, it isn't fair for a huge branch to be this defenseless against 2 people. Also the ithica isn't that good at all, which is why we changed it and the main reasons Riot Control is sooo buff is because of the mining system and apparently it will come back so when D-Class get their hands on ARs and shotguns Riot Control needs to be strong. However if the mining system doesnt return I will nerd Riot Control. Refer to my previous statement. Here is my opinion on this matter, please read it all to understand why I added thermals to NCOs and Riot Control in the first place. However because of everyone opinions here I will be removing them from Junior NCOs which removes it from 70+ people in Security. ~HOS Sixx Edit: Also when it comes to the Thermals part of this suggestion, you could've just talked to me about it in TS or DMs and I'm sure we could've came to a middle ground just like how Security came to a middle ground with MTF when we wanted private comms.

What are you suggesting? - Make 173s Door CC level 2. How would this change better the server? - Currently with 173s CC being level 3, most GenSec cannot open the door to help assist in the re containment of 173 or let people out of the containment. Because 173s CC is so close to D-Block this can make it very frustrating for GenSec to re contain him as they cannot open or close his CC door. Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - Cracking time of the door will be low. Who would this change mostly benefit? - GenSec and other Foundation Personnel in LCZ. Please link any workshop content, screenshots, or anything that you think may be helpful to those who view this suggestion - N/A.

That's just how whitelist be

Oranges idea is much better imo however, -Support

+Support I would love to have Juggs pass the blue line mainly due to CI Infiltrators often times cloaking in the back of D-Block and picking off Security. Juggernauts are one of the few classes in Security who have Thermals and could deal with the CI Infs. Additionally I could also add some restrictions to this by possibly making it so they can only cross the blue line during Defcon 3 or something of the sort. Also not many people play on Jugg due to the high level restrictions and having to be a SFC and hopefully this makes it so more people play on Jugg. We also wanted this in our last Branch Update however it was never added (Yes I know when suggestion get accepted its just a press of a button for the response)

We didn't talk much but whenever I was around you, you were a funny dude. Have a good one man.

Very good points^^^^^ -Support

-Support

This suggestion takes away from other branches.

You were an amazing E11 CMD member Owned. We haven't talked much man but you were chill from what I've seen. See ya around nerd.

It was a pleasure to have you in Security CMD Fallout. If you ever wanna play hmu. Sixx#9148