Next SITE Swap - Denied

[Avalon Levi]

What are you suggesting? - The next site swap to be SITE-19.

How would this change better the server? - SITE-19 is one if not the most known SITE throught the SCP community, if we have SITE-19 implemented it will make the server more appealing for new players and it will also bring countless RP oportunitys, PLEASE NOTE that this suggestion is for the next map swap i'm not asking it to be done rn, were talking about atleast a few months here before this swap would happen.

Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - I don't think so.

Who would this change mostly benefit? - SCP-RP

Please link any workshop content, screenshots, or anything that you think may be helpful to those who view this suggestion - 

Best Site-19:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2064971193

 

Edited February 3, 2023 by Avalon Levi

[Ein]

+SUPPORT IF IT CAN BE DONE RIGHT

This would be a VERY tedious task for SMT, which would require an extensive amount of map editing. I am all for using Site-19 as a base, but several areas (especially D-Class spawn) would need a massive overhaul. I also would like to see a move away from the traditional LCZ -> HCZ -> EZ -> Surface layout that basically every SCP map has.

[ZeferGaming]

3 hours ago, Ein said:

+SUPPORT IF IT CAN BE DONE RIGHT

This would be a VERY tedious task for SMT, which would require an extensive amount of map editing. I am all for using Site-19 as a base, but several areas (especially D-Class spawn) would need a massive overhaul. I also would like to see a move away from the traditional LCZ -> HCZ -> EZ -> Surface layout that basically every SCP map has.

 

[Yamato]

Neutral 
There's a Few issues with this. 1 being that Most Site-19 maps are more focused from the game meaning SMT would have hell trying to add spawns and bunks and all of that to a already giant map (yes the Site-19 maps are huge).  Not to mention CI spawn will be fully custom. (with maybe them entering from either where SCPSL spawns them or by the small gate (nuke ending area)  Sarkic spawn would be the same. issue. 

Site-19 maps are also (from experience. i could be wrong)  unoptimized and not alll that great for most things. 
1 there's no real Dblock. it's just a hallway with alot of cells 
2. there's no pre-set location for any MTF or Gensec to spawn.  (the poor Plaques for the old members would need to be placed [never forget the old ones]) 
tight hallways would make checkpoints easy but also make PVP end real quick if the whole group is off guard  (i hear stories about site-5 being amazing with it's chokepoint hallways) 
SCP-513 *bell*  that area is broken due to the SCP:CB game having it broken in that area.      
914 would most likely require ET for anything to do with it. 
the list goes on forever. It'd take a solid year to set everything up   + HID turret on surface is beyond janky. almost impossible to use. (would be removed) 

Now the positives are about as high as the negatives. 
the maintenance tunnels are perfect for Maintenance to do maintenance things 
SCPs have their own cells  (alot of the extra SCP CC's (job pack/ -GL SCPs / 2191 etc) many would need fixed cells tho such as SCP-939 and maybe 682 (the revised map has 682 CC) 
Research would have a blast with the classic design. 
173 would be tested on alot more as well. 
SCP's in general would have lots of fun murdering everyone since it'll be hard to run. 
possible addition of the closet SCP (forgot the number but it's the foggy forest one) 


TL;DR: Great suggestion but would literally kill SMT for them to implement the map into SCP-RP


OR just swap back to Site-5 or Site-10 Massive + support for this. 

[Sprink]

-Support 

n o

[Avalon Levi]

10 hours ago, Yamato said:

Neutral 
There's a Few issues with this. 1 being that Most Site-19 maps are more focused from the game meaning SMT would have hell trying to add spawns and bunks and all of that to a already giant map (yes the Site-19 maps are huge).  Not to mention CI spawn will be fully custom. (with maybe them entering from either where SCPSL spawns them or by the small gate (nuke ending area)  Sarkic spawn would be the same. issue. 

Site-19 maps are also (from experience. i could be wrong)  unoptimized and not alll that great for most things. 
1 there's no real Dblock. it's just a hallway with alot of cells 
2. there's no pre-set location for any MTF or Gensec to spawn.  (the poor Plaques for the old members would need to be placed [never forget the old ones]) 
tight hallways would make checkpoints easy but also make PVP end real quick if the whole group is off guard  (i hear stories about site-5 being amazing with it's chokepoint hallways) 
SCP-513 *bell*  that area is broken due to the SCP:CB game having it broken in that area.      
914 would most likely require ET for anything to do with it. 
the list goes on forever. It'd take a solid year to set everything up   + HID turret on surface is beyond janky. almost impossible to use. (would be removed) 

Now the positives are about as high as the negatives. 
the maintenance tunnels are perfect for Maintenance to do maintenance things 
SCPs have their own cells  (alot of the extra SCP CC's (job pack/ -GL SCPs / 2191 etc) many would need fixed cells tho such as SCP-939 and maybe 682 (the revised map has 682 CC) 
Research would have a blast with the classic design. 
173 would be tested on alot more as well. 
SCP's in general would have lots of fun murdering everyone since it'll be hard to run. 
possible addition of the closet SCP (forgot the number but it's the foggy forest one) 


TL;DR: Great suggestion but would literally kill SMT for them to implement the map into SCP-RP


OR just swap back to Site-5 or Site-10 Massive + support for this. 

Ye ik it would take a lot of time, thats why i put in the next few months in the suggestion, would prob take 3+ Months to fix everything but would definitly skyrocket our playercounts

[Yamato]

+++++++++++ MAP ROTATIONS ++++++++++++
Please I beg with everything I have.

[bobawhy]

+Support

-Site 19 is arguably one of the best Sites ever.

[Yamato]

GUYS I FOUND THE BEST SITE 19 MAP
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2064971193

ITS SERVER READY (almost) 
Its has HUGE rooms for spawns  Dblock isn't just a huge hallway 
all LCZ/EZ hallways are abit tight but that's fine 
it's abit empty but it has unlabeled SCP CCs for new SCPs 
It's kinda cramped BUT HUGE!! Dclass and MTF would have a blast, there's VENTS for Dclass! and Maintenance! 
a shooting range  maintenance tunnels
THERE'S AN OUTSIDE CITY 
There's a staff meeting room/sit room /  EVENT stage room

snipers would be abit useless but it fits the secluded lore area 
there's a underground area perfect for CI and another building for  sarkic 
a building for E11 
(the surface isn't very big though so expect alot of spawn camp complaints) 
A GIANT warehouse for PTs 
-there's no door for 106s chamber 

Self breaching would require staff to manually open/close large CC doors

Maintenance / medical & research spawns would have to be merged 
Gensec would be back to spawning with Dclass

overall 9/10 map would totally use in next map swap 

3 minutes ago, Yamato said:

GUYS I FOUND THE BEST SITE 19 MAP

i have like all of my addons active rn and i'm not lagging at all in this map  it's perfect 

[bobawhy]

10 minutes ago, Yamato said:

GUYS I FOUND THE BEST SITE 19 MAP
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2064971193

ITS SERVER READY (almost) 
Its has HUGE rooms for spawns  Dblock isn't just a huge hallway 
all LCZ/EZ hallways are abit tight but that's fine 
it's abit empty but it has unlabeled SCP CCs for new SCPs 
It's kinda cramped BUT HUGE!! Dclass and MTF would have a blast, there's VENTS for Dclass! and Maintenance! 
a shooting range  maintenance tunnels
THERE'S AN OUTSIDE CITY 
There's a staff meeting room/sit room /  EVENT stage room

snipers would be abit useless but it fits the secluded lore area 
there's a underground area perfect for CI and another building for  sarkic 
a building for E11 
(the surface isn't very big though so expect alot of spawn camp complaints) 
A GIANT warehouse for PTs 
-there's no door for 106s chamber 

Self breaching would require staff to manually open/close large CC doors

Maintenance / medical & research spawns would have to be merged 
Gensec would be back to spawning with Dclass

overall 9/10 map would totally use in next map swap 

+Support x500 BRO THIS SHIT IS FUCKING PERFECT. CHEIFS GAWDAMN KISS

[Yamato]

39 minutes ago, Yamato said:

Maintenance / medical & research spawns would have to be merged

actually after checking the map again  medical would have it's own spawn and Maint could just spawn in the maintenance tunnels or somewhere. Research would spawn next to MTF  (something similar to this) 
or have research spawn next to gensec and dclass   
(like said the map is cramped that's the downside everything else is beyond perfect

[Avalon Levi]

-= link to the better SITE-19 added=-
@YamatoThanks!

[Destroyer2]

-support 
not gonna lie, but I hate site 19, might be the most popular site, but would cause a lot of lag + spawns + surface is small and thats where a lot of things happen

[Hex-G]

+/- Support

The only part I would be down for is the actual name of "Site-19".

The issue is that changing maps to something that is not custom would take a LOT of work from SMT. The more map work done the less updates we get for the server. They have limited time that they already dedicate a lot to for an unpaid job.

A big appeal for new players is that we have a custom site. People get bored with things they know and nostalgia can wear off fast. Having a fun custom map is better for player retention (as they learn the map) and intriguing new players to join.

It would also be difficult with the amount of custom content we have to work it into a pre-built map.

[Dutch-]

+support

I think it would be cool to maybe take that map and have it edited a lot to fit what the server needs, But still have it retain a lot of what was originally there. It definitely isnt perfect, but id like to see what changes could be made to it that could make it perfect for our server.

[HuntR]

-support

 

While a good idea in theory, I think this would be hell for SMT to develop. The best idea in my mind would to create a custom map and then name it Site-19. Using the map of Site-19 I see as only problems.

[Kevlar_]

Denied. The SCP-RP SMT has decided against adding this suggestion for performance reasons, the benefit to the server, or another unstated reason.