Eris Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 What are you suggesting? - To up the default, free limit of custom playermodels a few megabytes. How would this change better the server? - Consistency. Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - Who would this change mostly benefit? - Donators Ever since January 2020, "New or updated addons on Steam Workshop will display their real, uncompressed size" new addons are to display their true full size, although anything uploaded prior will display the compressed size. That means you could submit the same model before January and it would be approved, but if it was uncompressed higher than that after January, then it would be denied. I do not think the limit has been raised to account for this and it should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Fizz-y Soda Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 (edited) Got any sources? I'm pretty sure this will get instantly denied by Zeeptin if you don't have sources explaining this clearly. Edited December 26, 2020 by [GL] Fizz-y Soda CI CMDR / CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eris Posted December 26, 2020 Author Share Posted December 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, [GL] Fizz-y Soda said: Got any sources? I'm pretty sure this will get instantly denied by Zeeptin if you don't have sources explaining this clearly. https://steamdb.info/patchnotes/4589106/ An example case: A model from 2015: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=485879458&searchtext= Listed as about 0.712 megs. The exact same model, file for file, (which can be checked with steamworkshopdownloader.io) Listed at 2.7 megs. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2336123965 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Fizz-y Soda Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, Eris said: https://steamdb.info/patchnotes/4589106/ An example case: A model from 2015: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=485879458&searchtext= Listed as about 0.712 megs. The exact same model, file for file, (which can be checked with steamworkshopdownloader.io) Listed at 2.7 megs. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2336123965 With this information present, I will leave my +Support CI CMDR / CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillers Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 -Support, would just increase the amount of large models on the server. "Without morals, are we truly any better than the things we've set ourselves to contain?" EX-Site Director | EX-Super Admin | EX-Event Team Lead | Otter Lover | Regardless of what SMT Says, not a furry. | R&D Senior Inspector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eris Posted December 26, 2020 Author Share Posted December 26, 2020 Just now, Phillers said: -Support, would just increase the amount of large models on the server. It's quite literally just adjusting it to be the same limit it was, accounting for steam changes. Uhm? And also you consider single megabyte models large? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Mike Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 12 hours ago, Phillers said: -Support, would just increase the amount of large models on the server. Increases Lag, Load Time, and amount of space it would take up on someones PC. The reason it costs so much is because it increases load time so Zeeptin decided, you wanna Larger CC Model and Increase load time? Pay more of a cost. -Support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixalgamer99 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 With the information provided +support as all it is doing is showing the uncompressed version and isn’t gonna change the loading times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bread Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 (edited) Garry's mod compresses the shown filesize, but they base it off of what the workshop says. There should be more slack cut to models published after March 2020. The older ones show the already compressed size. My suggestion: Double the filesize limits for any models that were published after March 2020. 7 hours ago, [GL] Mike said: Increases Lag Do keep in mind that models dont increase lag unless they're actually spawned and being used, and even then it doesn't really. Edited December 27, 2020 by Bread lol, lmao even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Boekhom Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 39 minutes ago, Bread said: Garry's mod compresses the shown filesize, but they base it off of what the workshop says. There should be more slack cut to models published after March 2020. The older ones show the already compressed size. My suggestion: Double the filesize limits for any models that were published after March 2020. Do keep in mind that models dont increase lag unless they're actually spawned and being used, and even then it doesn't really. Chad of many names Professional Shit talker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprink Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Bread said: Garry's mod compresses the shown filesize, but they base it off of what the workshop says. There should be more slack cut to models published after March 2020. The older ones show the already compressed size. My suggestion: Double the filesize limits for any models that were published after March 2020. Do keep in mind that models dont increase lag unless they're actually spawned and being used, and even then it doesn't really. Deputy Head of Security | Executive Event Team | Admin | Forum Diplomat | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squash Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 8 hours ago, [GL] Mike said: Increases Lag, Load Time, and amount of space it would take up on someones PC. The reason it costs so much is because it increases load time so Zeeptin decided, you wanna Larger CC Model and Increase load time? Pay more of a cost. -Support. Foundation Archivist | Operations Supervisor | SCP-RP Senior Admin | Forums Diplomat | Support 1 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Zeeptin Posted January 19, 2021 Owner Share Posted January 19, 2021 Actually the new compression methods are better suited for us anyway so we are going to keep them the way they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Zeeptin Posted January 19, 2021 Owner Share Posted January 19, 2021 Denied. The SCP-RP SMT has decided against adding this suggestion for performance reasons, the benefit to the server, or another unstated reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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