General Suggestion - Revert back to a prior map

[Serum]

What are you suggesting?: We revert back to a previous map until a conclusion with a better map that the community wants is reached.

How would this change better the server and my reasoning: It will help save the server from death. Half of the branches on the server rely on d class; making d block miserable and killing d class activity is pretty bad.

There are plentiful of people who dislike the new map along with plentiful reasons behind it. Here I will state some:
Safe Class SCPs are, for some,/were stuck in their cells unable to roam freely around LCZ. As for trying to entice RP, through that out the window. There are constantly broken doors everywhere, and spawns are broken to the point of a 50/50 chance of spawning in stuck. They also started with a horrid keycard leveled door system, they tried fixing that, but that is only a bandage to the issue as a whole. D-Block is also very restrictive, for both sides. Another thing are the training rooms, not to mention that GenSec doesn't even really have one to speak of, and for the branches that do, they are half baked into the map.

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The surface ambience stays with you forever -Yamato

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+ D class dont even have a mines area anymore -Ashe

Complaints on the forums.

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What are you suggesting:   Add LED Signs or some sort of custom sign that emphasizes what zone is what.  Mainly Because instead of LCZ - UHCZ/LHCZ - EZ   It's Now LCZ-1  LCZ-2  EZ-1 EZ-2 , HCZ.  It's alot more confusing for others and alot more confusing with zone restrictions seeing as LCZ and EZ are split between two entire layers. -Yamato

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What are you suggesting? - Remove the Standard , SCP ambience background noise, throught the standard sounds of the map. -Boesermaster

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What are you suggesting? - I am suggesting to add a small D-Block lounge or mining area like we had on the map before. This area would be in the back of D-Block, on the side of D-Block that the cells face the wall, not GENSEC area. I would also suggest to allow D-Class CCs to spawn there so that way they can wait their NLR in a safe place without being crossfired, killed as soon as they spawn/walk out, etc. -Mary

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What are you suggesting? - Add a hackable keypad on the outside of the D-Block airlock and another on the D-block side of the second door of the airlock. -IgnisNuts

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What are you suggesting? - Rework on upper D-block and airlock to open the space up and add a new way to get up other than the vent. -WhatIsDylan

 

Another big post I will mention here as it is related to the topic is Ein's post. In it he states that

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The issue a lot of people seem to have on Gaminglight SCP-RP as of current is the fact that updates come out unpolished, and in many cases unfinished. The new map is an excellent example of this.

I would like to also bring into the what Jack II said in his post.

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I sat on the server in dblock for an hour and heard countless players complaining and slandering the new map. "This is boring or this new map is trash" are frequent phrases. Gaminglights playerpop is probably the lowest consistency its been in a while maybe ever. This map is even more discouraging and would ultimately kill the server in probably a couple months.

I have to agree with him about that if this goes unfixed, GL-SCP-RP will die.
These are only some of the complaints about this new map, which has been out a few weeks now, I would like that is long enough to decide that this new map is NOT going to work for the community.

Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain: We would have to wait longer for a new map, however I don't think this will be an issue saying with we where able to stay on site 50 for how long and the amount of complaints for this new map.

Who would this change mostly benefit? - Everyone in the whole community and the potential future members to come.

 

[whyyouaintacceptmyfriend]

23 minutes ago, Serum said:

I have to agree with him about that if this goes unfixed, GL-SCP-RP will die.

WE CANNOT HAVE THIS HAPPEN.... +SUPPORT,

[CyanicZed]

-Support The only thing valid on this suggestion is that doors randomly break and the dislike reaction. If you want D-Class to enjoy their time in D-Block maybe research could test on them. A valid suggestion would be more interactable SCPs for them to be tested on. Believe me, the server will not die because D-Class cannot escape D-Block as easily. It will die if we revert to that hellhole of a "map" though. What old D-Block was-was an airsoft field used on D-Class. It was ridiculous and does not fit a militarized Foundation's Security forces. The issue isn't the new map. The issue is your adaptation to the changes. You're also suggesting a new map as a solution to the D-Block problem without addressing the issue of other branches. Their experience has been improved greatly and you fail to take into account other branches. This suggestion is selfish, you need to understand that there are other players on the server than GENSEC.

[Tazza]

3 hours ago, CyanicZed said:

-Support The only thing valid on this suggestion is that doors randomly break and the dislike reaction. If you want D-Class to enjoy their time in D-Block maybe research could test on them. A valid suggestion would be more interactable SCPs for them to be tested on. Believe me, the server will not die because D-Class cannot escape D-Block as easily. It will die if we revert to that hellhole of a "map" though. What old D-Block was-was an airsoft field used on D-Class. It was ridiculous and does not fit a militarized Foundation's Security forces. The issue isn't the new map. The issue is your adaptation to the changes. You're also suggesting a new map as a solution to the D-Block problem without addressing the issue of other branches. Their experience has been improved greatly and you fail to take into account other branches. This suggestion is selfish, you need to understand that there are other players on the server than GENSEC.

I like rioting as d-class but I also like doing RP once or a while, its just that gensec dont cooperate with research and research dont cooperate with gensec and you know research inactive asf lmao anyways i agree with zed here

[Sprink]

7 hours ago, CyanicZed said:

-Support The only thing valid on this suggestion is that doors randomly break and the dislike reaction. If you want D-Class to enjoy their time in D-Block maybe research could test on them. A valid suggestion would be more interactable SCPs for them to be tested on. Believe me, the server will not die because D-Class cannot escape D-Block as easily. It will die if we revert to that hellhole of a "map" though. What old D-Block was-was an airsoft field used on D-Class. It was ridiculous and does not fit a militarized Foundation's Security forces. The issue isn't the new map. The issue is your adaptation to the changes. You're also suggesting a new map as a solution to the D-Block problem without addressing the issue of other branches. Their experience has been improved greatly and you fail to take into account other branches. This suggestion is selfish, you need to understand that there are other players on the server than GENSEC.

 

[Leww]

10 hours ago, CyanicZed said:

-Support The only thing valid on this suggestion is that doors randomly break and the dislike reaction. If you want D-Class to enjoy their time in D-Block maybe research could test on them. A valid suggestion would be more interactable SCPs for them to be tested on. Believe me, the server will not die because D-Class cannot escape D-Block as easily. It will die if we revert to that hellhole of a "map" though. What old D-Block was-was an airsoft field used on D-Class. It was ridiculous and does not fit a militarized Foundation's Security forces. The issue isn't the new map. The issue is your adaptation to the changes. You're also suggesting a new map as a solution to the D-Block problem without addressing the issue of other branches. Their experience has been improved greatly and you fail to take into account other branches. This suggestion is selfish, you need to understand that there are other players on the server than GENSEC.

 

[Ein]

11 hours ago, CyanicZed said:

-Support The only thing valid on this suggestion is that doors randomly break and the dislike reaction. If you want D-Class to enjoy their time in D-Block maybe research could test on them. A valid suggestion would be more interactable SCPs for them to be tested on. Believe me, the server will not die because D-Class cannot escape D-Block as easily. It will die if we revert to that hellhole of a "map" though. What old D-Block was-was an airsoft field used on D-Class. It was ridiculous and does not fit a militarized Foundation's Security forces. The issue isn't the new map. The issue is your adaptation to the changes. You're also suggesting a new map as a solution to the D-Block problem without addressing the issue of other branches. Their experience has been improved greatly and you fail to take into account other branches. This suggestion is selfish, you need to understand that there are other players on the server than GENSEC.

This is exactly right. Security as a branch was literaly dying on Site-13 because of the D-Block structure. My suggestion says that the reason people dont like the map or many other updates initially is because they arent as polished as they should be. The new map is great, but it’s not polished for the best experience (and to be honest, this isnt entirely the maps fault, it’s d-class cc’s.)

Site-23 is awesome and its a step in the right direction, going back now would be ridiculous.

[Ireland.]

-Support

Once SOP's are adjusted to better fit the new map and everyone gets used to the map as a whole, the experience will be much better than it is right now, reverting would just be a very extreme solution to a temporary problem that is already actively being solved by HCMD/SA and SMT.

[Boesermaster]

-1 Support, i really dont like the Ambience, its to loud in my Opinion and doesnt fit thats right,

 

But i am in love with how Optimzied the Map is, and how much stuff we can add to RP with, the Expience on this Map has been nothing but Awesome so far [beside getting lost in 2 Rooms]

[Antonio]

13 hours ago, whyyouaintacceptmyfriend said:

WE CANNOT HAVE THIS HAPPEN.... +SUPPORT,

 

[IgnisNuts]

4 hours ago, Ireland. said:

-Support

Once SOP's are adjusted to better fit the new map and everyone gets used to the map as a whole, the experience will be much better than it is right now, reverting would just be a very extreme solution to a temporary problem that is already actively being solved by HCMD/SA and SMT.

It ain't even been a month since this map has been out, give it some more time..
Plus Site-13 is hot cheeks compared to the ones before it.

[Kevlar_]