John Sutter Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 (edited) Your In-game: John Sutter Your SteamID: STEAM_0:0:425591647 The admin's name in-game: Locus The admin's steam name (If you know it): Unknown What warning did you receive: RDM Evidence of the warn (REQUIRED): https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1754685903688475714/25BC87C5BB0B4500CEA9EEFA70A2C49C59BD9B24/ Why do you think this warn was false: I killed Prada after he killed a family member of mine. Any extra information: There seems to be a misconception of you have to advert assist before avenging a fallen comrade. Edited February 19, 2021 by John Sutter add detail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Locus Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 (edited) I would like to say that when I talked with will after your talk with him he even agreed with me that its sorta of a gray area that some staff warn for and some don't he would of done a verbal but he says it was my sit at the end of day. The reason I warned is you I've almost been warned for the exact same thing. If other staff think I am wrong I would love to hear it and if I'm wrong I'll apologize to you. Edited February 19, 2021 by [GL] Locus Previous Positions: Ex-Death Trooper | Ex- Inferno Squad Leader | Retired HRT LT | Retired FBI DCOS | Retired FBI FTO DD | Retired PD Major Current Positions: SRT Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drippy Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 +Support There seems to be a whole lot of confusion on whether you need to advert assist or not if you're family member is being shot at, and it really needs clarification. I would say its perfectly fine, and you were in the right to do so. It's much like defending yourself, you would obviously shoot back if you're being shot, so why not defend a family member who is being shot/killed? You have the same family name for a reason. I don't see a reason to advert assist to shoot someone. (Unless they're being arrested or something along those lines.) This is the closest rule I could find pertaining to engaging in combat with /advert assist "If your family was involved in committing a crime and a family member is actively being arrested you may type /advert assist to assist that family member, you must follow all rules with NLR and FailRP." No where else in the MOTD does it state you're required to advert assist to defending a family member. This whole "required to advert assist to defend family" thing popped up out of no where. It wasn't a thing, and no one did it a few months ago, I'm not sure why people are thinking its a rule now. I personally have never adverted assist to engage in a gunfight with people attacking family, members and I know a bunch of other people haven't either. With that being said I feel this warn should be removed. 2 PoliceRP - Retired Manager Retired SWAT Commander | UMC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~𝓢𝓞𝓤𝓛~ Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Just now, Drippy said: +Support There seems to be a whole lot of confusion on whether you need to advert assist or not if you're family member is being shot at, and it really needs clarification. I would say its perfectly fine, and you were in the right to do so. It's much like defending yourself, you would obviously shoot back if you're being shot, so why not defend a family member who is being shot/killed? You have the same family name for a reason. I don't see a reason to advert assist to shoot someone. (Unless they're being arrested or something along those lines.) This is the closest rule I could find pertaining to engaging in combat with /advert assist "If your family was involved in committing a crime and a family member is actively being arrested you may type /advert assist to assist that family member, you must follow all rules with NLR and FailRP." No where else in the MOTD does it state you're required to advert assist to defending a family member. This whole "required to advert assist to defend family" thing popped up out of no where. It wasn't a thing, and no one did it a few months ago, I'm not sure why people are thinking its a rule now. I personally have never adverted assist to engage in a gunfight with people attacking family, members and I know a bunch of other people haven't either. With that being said I feel this warn should be removed. PD SM | SWAT LT | SL Consigliere MLG Pro Negev player #buffthenegev2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrad Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Just now, Drippy said: +Support There seems to be a whole lot of confusion on whether you need to advert assist or not if you're family member is being shot at, and it really needs clarification. I would say its perfectly fine, and you were in the right to do so. It's much like defending yourself, you would obviously shoot back if you're being shot, so why not defend a family member who is being shot/killed? You have the same family name for a reason. I don't see a reason to advert assist to shoot someone. (Unless they're being arrested or something along those lines.) This is the closest rule I could find pertaining to engaging in combat with /advert assist "If your family was involved in committing a crime and a family member is actively being arrested you may type /advert assist to assist that family member, you must follow all rules with NLR and FailRP." No where else in the MOTD does it state you're required to advert assist to defending a family member. This whole "required to advert assist to defend family" thing popped up out of no where. It wasn't a thing, and no one did it a few months ago, I'm not sure why people are thinking its a rule now. I personally have never adverted assist to engage in a gunfight with people attacking family, members and I know a bunch of other people haven't either. With that being said I feel this warn should be removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICE Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Drippy said: +Support There seems to be a whole lot of confusion on whether you need to advert assist or not if you're family member is being shot at, and it really needs clarification. I would say its perfectly fine, and you were in the right to do so. It's much like defending yourself, you would obviously shoot back if you're being shot, so why not defend a family member who is being shot/killed? You have the same family name for a reason. I don't see a reason to advert assist to shoot someone. (Unless they're being arrested or something along those lines.) This is the closest rule I could find pertaining to engaging in combat with /advert assist "If your family was involved in committing a crime and a family member is actively being arrested you may type /advert assist to assist that family member, you must follow all rules with NLR and FailRP." No where else in the MOTD does it state you're required to advert assist to defending a family member. This whole "required to advert assist to defend family" thing popped up out of no where. It wasn't a thing, and no one did it a few months ago, I'm not sure why people are thinking its a rule now. I personally have never adverted assist to engage in a gunfight with people attacking family, members and I know a bunch of other people haven't either. With that being said I feel this warn should be removed. ICE "Won't let go, I'm the type to show you that you're too special, Please don't be the type to hate the things I do, And I'll ride for you, and I'll die for you!" - Juice WRLD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00 𝓓𝓪𝓻𝓴 00 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Drippy said: +Support There seems to be a whole lot of confusion on whether you need to advert assist or not if you're family member is being shot at, and it really needs clarification. I would say its perfectly fine, and you were in the right to do so. It's much like defending yourself, you would obviously shoot back if you're being shot, so why not defend a family member who is being shot/killed? You have the same family name for a reason. I don't see a reason to advert assist to shoot someone. (Unless they're being arrested or something along those lines.) This is the closest rule I could find pertaining to engaging in combat with /advert assist "If your family was involved in committing a crime and a family member is actively being arrested you may type /advert assist to assist that family member, you must follow all rules with NLR and FailRP." No where else in the MOTD does it state you're required to advert assist to defending a family member. This whole "required to advert assist to defend family" thing popped up out of no where. It wasn't a thing, and no one did it a few months ago, I'm not sure why people are thinking its a rule now. I personally have never adverted assist to engage in a gunfight with people attacking family, members and I know a bunch of other people haven't either. With that being said I feel this warn should be removed. in my opinion its like FearRP if shots are fired you dont need to advert unless its to break them out. 『PoliceRP』: 〖 Ex CERT Commander 〗〖 Last Dispatch Director 〗 『 ImperialRP』: 〖 Ex Second Sister 〗〖 Ex Seventh Sister 〗 『Staff』: 〖 Ex PoliceRP Senior Admin 〗〖 Ex PoliceRP Senior Event Team 〗〖 Ex Senior Forums Diplomat 〗〖 Ex Support Supervisor 〗 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy James Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Accepted Go into the ban panel (at the top it says ban) sign in, go to your profile, go to your warn and click appeal. Fill the information out and in the description put the link to this in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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