General Suggestion- Change the mech raid location - Denied

[Proximo]

Post name: “General Suggestion -

What are you suggesting? - Change the mech raid area to a yellow warehouse like the other site| Or just add more restrictions, perably just add more restrictions 
Example: More MTF need to be on
Or they can only got certain areas

How would this change better the server? - it would not make the mech raid Cancerous and like I'm playing MW2

Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - No more camping I guess?

Who would this change mostly benefit? - MTF

Please link any workshop content, screenshots, or anything that you think may be helpful to those who view this suggestion -Heres an example of what makes this bad 
https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/17rIW9yhGda7fi/d1337PWUWyeL?invite=cr-MSx0czgsMjY1NDMzMzEs

Note: Before you post "Use better tactics" or "E11 makes it fair" I don't know why Nu7 has to relay on E11 to make a mech raid fair when its suppose to be fair in the first place? and second off if you use smoke grenades/flash/ETC you get M14|Negev| or G3Sg1 spammed and than an infill cleans up from behind.Also keep in mind MTF spawn everywhere insite and not all near mech raid which makes it even harder to get people to stack up and communicate
 

Edited May 2, 2023 by Proximo

[CyanicZed]

-Support

- Utilize all of what is available to Nu7. During that entire raid not one flashbang, smoke, or frag was thrown. Previously smoke grenades have been an easy way for MTF to push into the mech raid and get kills, can't shoot you if we can't see you. One grenade in our main crate area would have created a disruption and we would have been forced to rotate around. You cannot claim there is no merit to using these devices if you never attempt to use them in the first place.

- Not to mention your spawns are right outside of where this is, compared to where they would be if the raid was moved to the surface. This is not an issue of numbers the foundation has the upper hand in this area. You can return, we cannot.

- None of the tools that you could use to push out were used. You don't need to rely on E-11 if you just play better. Secondly you would fair much better if MTF would keep at it instead of flagging off onto other jobs. You're job as an MTF during a mech raid is to direct people to the Foundation Ops channel, there should be no lack of communication, and if there is that is not caused by the location of the mech raid.

Edited May 2, 2023 by CyanicZed
phrasing

[IgnisNuts]

6 minutes ago, CyanicZed said:

-Support

- Utilize all of what is available to Nu7. During that entire raid not one flashbang, smoke, or frag was thrown. Previously smoke grenades have been an easy way for MTF to push into the mech raid and get kills, can't shoot you if we can't see you. One grenade in our main crate area would have created a disruption and we would have been forced to rotate around. You cannot claim there is no merit to using these devices if you never attempt to use them in the first place.

- Not to mention your spawns are right outside of where this is, compared to where they would be if the raid was moved to the surface. This is not an issue of numbers the foundation has the upper hand in this area. You can return, we cannot.

- None of the tools that you could use to push out were used. You don't need to rely on E-11 if you just play better. Secondly you would fair much better if MTF would keep at it instead of flagging off onto other jobs. You're job as an MTF during a mech raid is to direct people to the Foundation Ops channel, there should be no lack of communication, and if there is that is not caused by the location of the mech raid.

 

[Tazza]

16 minutes ago, CyanicZed said:

-Support

- Utilize all of what is available to Nu7. During that entire raid not one flashbang, smoke, or frag was thrown. Previously smoke grenades have been an easy way for MTF to push into the mech raid and get kills, can't shoot you if we can't see you. One grenade in our main crate area would have created a disruption and we would have been forced to rotate around. You cannot claim there is no merit to using these devices if you never attempt to use them in the first place.

- Not to mention your spawns are right outside of where this is, compared to where they would be if the raid was moved to the surface. This is not an issue of numbers the foundation has the upper hand in this area. You can return, we cannot.

- None of the tools that you could use to push out were used. You don't need to rely on E-11 if you just play better. Secondly you would fair much better if MTF would keep at it instead of flagging off onto other jobs. You're job as an MTF during a mech raid is to direct people to the Foundation Ops channel, there should be no lack of communication, and if there is that is not caused by the location of the mech raid.

your just salty you lost a mech raid smh

[Proximo]

21 minutes ago, CyanicZed said:

-Support

- Utilize all of what is available to Nu7. During that entire raid not one flashbang, smoke, or frag was thrown. Previously smoke grenades have been an easy way for MTF to push into the mech raid and get kills, can't shoot you if we can't see you. One grenade in our main crate area would have created a disruption and we would have been forced to rotate around. You cannot claim there is no merit to using these devices if you never attempt to use them in the first place.

- Not to mention your spawns are right outside of where this is, compared to where they would be if the raid was moved to the surface. This is not an issue of numbers the foundation has the upper hand in this area. You can return, we cannot.

- None of the tools that you could use to push out were used. You don't need to rely on E-11 if you just play better. Secondly you would fair much better if MTF would keep at it instead of flagging off onto other jobs. You're job as an MTF during a mech raid is to direct people to the Foundation Ops channel, there should be no lack of communication, and if there is that is not caused by the location of the mech raid.

Sorry to reply on my own suggestion but this was alraedy stated, Nu7 Spawns in HCZ, not near mech raid E11 spawns on surface and D5 spawns in EZ so yes Nu7 has to reley on other people to get there before we do. The situation with smoke grenades and flashes were also already spoken about

Its also quite obvious you didn't even look at the clip as you say one grenade would disrupt you when you are all spread out with a sniper in the back who was headshotting people and a cloaker in back rushing when they could  

Edited May 2, 2023 by Proximo

[Its Buck]

-support 

So you wanna move the raid area to surface where Nu7 would then have to go to the gate, wait 30 seconds for the elevator to come down, then another 30 to go back up and then run across the massive surface to get into the warehouse? 
 

This would hurt MTF not help them

[Proximo]

2 minutes ago, Its Buck said:

-support 

So you wanna move the raid area to surface where Nu7 would then have to go to the gate, wait 30 seconds for the elevator to come down, then another 30 to go back up and then run across the massive surface to get into the warehouse? 
 

This would hurt MTF not help them

It was a general suggesiton, I wanted to focus it on making more restrictions for mech raid

[Some Weeb]

-Support

 

You do need better tactics it doesn't get simpler then that.

[Mark001]

On 5/1/2023 at 8:43 PM, CyanicZed said:

-Support

- Utilize all of what is available to Nu7. During that entire raid not one flashbang, smoke, or frag was thrown. Previously smoke grenades have been an easy way for MTF to push into the mech raid and get kills, can't shoot you if we can't see you. One grenade in our main crate area would have created a disruption and we would have been forced to rotate around. You cannot claim there is no merit to using these devices if you never attempt to use them in the first place.

- Not to mention your spawns are right outside of where this is, compared to where they would be if the raid was moved to the surface. This is not an issue of numbers the foundation has the upper hand in this area. You can return, we cannot.

- None of the tools that you could use to push out were used. You don't need to rely on E-11 if you just play better. Secondly you would fair much better if MTF would keep at it instead of flagging off onto other jobs. You're job as an MTF during a mech raid is to direct people to the Foundation Ops channel, there should be no lack of communication, and if there is that is not caused by the location of the mech raid.

 

[Yamato]

- support.  
1. Skill issue.
2. It's quite the walk, about the same or farther than before.
3. if it is changed then Nu7 and D5 bouta be vibing to elevator music for about 20-30 seconds for the lift to go down then up. 
4. tactics are needed. no more sit and wait, more move and groove. sorta thing

[Bossatron1924]

On 5/1/2023 at 9:43 PM, CyanicZed said:

-Support

- Utilize all of what is available to Nu7. During that entire raid not one flashbang, smoke, or frag was thrown. Previously smoke grenades have been an easy way for MTF to push into the mech raid and get kills, can't shoot you if we can't see you. One grenade in our main crate area would have created a disruption and we would have been forced to rotate around. You cannot claim there is no merit to using these devices if you never attempt to use them in the first place.

- Not to mention your spawns are right outside of where this is, compared to where they would be if the raid was moved to the surface. This is not an issue of numbers the foundation has the upper hand in this area. You can return, we cannot.

- None of the tools that you could use to push out were used. You don't need to rely on E-11 if you just play better. Secondly you would fair much better if MTF would keep at it instead of flagging off onto other jobs. You're job as an MTF during a mech raid is to direct people to the Foundation Ops channel, there should be no lack of communication, and if there is that is not caused by the location of the mech raid.

Should've gone to SA instead of making a suggestion like this, not exactly your job to change an entire raid area because of your inconvenience 

[Antonio]

On 5/1/2023 at 9:43 PM, CyanicZed said:

-Support

- Utilize all of what is available to Nu7. During that entire raid not one flashbang, smoke, or frag was thrown. Previously smoke grenades have been an easy way for MTF to push into the mech raid and get kills, can't shoot you if we can't see you. One grenade in our main crate area would have created a disruption and we would have been forced to rotate around. You cannot claim there is no merit to using these devices if you never attempt to use them in the first place.

- Not to mention your spawns are right outside of where this is, compared to where they would be if the raid was moved to the surface. This is not an issue of numbers the foundation has the upper hand in this area. You can return, we cannot.

- None of the tools that you could use to push out were used. You don't need to rely on E-11 if you just play better. Secondly you would fair much better if MTF would keep at it instead of flagging off onto other jobs. You're job as an MTF during a mech raid is to direct people to the Foundation Ops channel, there should be no lack of communication, and if there is that is not caused by the location of the mech raid.

 

[Kevlar_]

Denied. The SCP-RP SMT has decided against adding this suggestion for performance reasons, the benefit to the server, or another unstated reason.