Boscoe Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) 1. Steam Name: Boscoe 2. Ingame Name: Boscoe 3. SteamID: 76561198146656185 4. Ban Length: Permanant 5. Admin that Banned you: Guar + King Shepard 6. Reason for Ban: DDoS Threats 7. Dispute: I was a stupid child making a bad joke at the time, I would appreciate an unban thanks! (And it's been like 4 years) Edited December 24, 2021 by Boscoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinity Trials Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 +Support Good guy, shouldn't get banned forever for something like a DDOS joke, (not a rule on alot of servers) def deserves a second chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertoManjini Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 -support You still did DDoS threats, its illegal via law what you did, just a heads up, so just receiving a ban, and i think its not a perm but a blacklist and if it is it cannot be appealed. 1 EX-Star fighter Marshall EX-NCM Secretary FAV SMT-bop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boscoe Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) Actually its not illegal because it was stated as a joke, so next time you wanna act lawyer go on google. @Marshall Manjini Edited December 23, 2021 by Boscoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertoManjini Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Boscoe said: Actually its not illegal because it was stated as a joke, so next time you wanna act lawyer go on google. @Marshall Manjini jokes in a way even if its stated as a "joke" can still be illegal, and next time you want to act like you know who you are talking about look in the directory of Indiana lawyers and search for my name Edited December 24, 2021 by Marshall Manjini EX-Star fighter Marshall EX-NCM Secretary FAV SMT-bop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boscoe Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Marshall Manjini said: jokes in a way even if its stated as a "joke" can still be illegal, and next time you want to act like you know who you are talking about look in the directory of Indiana lawyers and search for my name You still haven't proven anything with the keyword "can" lol, good try Gmod Attorney. Edited December 24, 2021 by Boscoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinity Trials Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 Not to put favor towards either side, but DDOS Threats are not Illegal In the United States. This is where Boscoe likely lives, and also where the Server is likely centered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertoManjini Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 "DDoS threats are an Illegal cybercrime in the United States. A DDoS attack could be classified as a federal criminal offense under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (CFAA). The use of booter services and stressers also violates this act." -Is DDoSing Illegal? | UpGuard 2 EX-Star fighter Marshall EX-NCM Secretary FAV SMT-bop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinity Trials Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 A DDOS attack is Illegal, however a threat is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinity Trials Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 looks like you took some uh... freedoms with editing the quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boscoe Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 54 minutes ago, Marshall Manjini said: "DDoS threats are an Illegal cybercrime in the United States. A DDoS attack could be classified as a federal criminal offense under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (CFAA). The use of booter services and stressers also violates this act." -Is DDoSing Illegal? | UpGuard I didn't make threats, I made a joke that was misinterpreted for a threat. Learn to not cherry-pick info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertoManjini Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 been honest your just taking this to another level, there is no proof saying you were joking, there is no proof of it been a fake thing or just a joke, so the ban at that time is valid and so it is until proven else. unless there is clips,msgs, its still a invalid unban until shown proof so still -support EX-Star fighter Marshall EX-NCM Secretary FAV SMT-bop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Pickle_ Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 -support - DDOS threats and attacks are very serious and you also started a whole argument in the comment section - I would not expect a unban anytime soon SO Lieutenant Picke | Moderator | Gamemaster | Havoc AT PFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinity Trials Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 31 minutes ago, _Pickle_ said: -support - DDOS threats and attacks are very serious and you also started a whole argument in the comment section - I would not expect a unban anytime soon SO Lieutenant Picke | Moderator | Gamemaster | Havoc AT PFC Manjini clearly started the argument, and DDOS threats are clearly not serious because banning a player does not prevent a DDOS attack even if a threat was serious (90% of threats are not) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boscoe Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 33 minutes ago, _Pickle_ said: -support - DDOS threats and attacks are very serious and you also started a whole argument in the comment section - I would not expect a unban anytime soon SO Lieutenant Picke | Moderator | Gamemaster | Havoc AT PFC I didn't start the argument @Marshall Manjini did my accusing me of breaking the law, That is defamation. Read the thread first and you are banned at the time of writing this. 58 minutes ago, Marshall Manjini said: been honest your just taking this to another level, there is no proof saying you were joking, there is no proof of it been a fake thing or just a joke, so the ban at that time is valid and so it is until proven else. unless there is clips,msgs, its still a invalid unban until shown proof so still -support So you are so mad that you did -support twice on my post because you realized you were lying and got called out. By a quick check on your post history you can clearly see all you do is -rep peoples post trying to get a promotion. so I suggest you go -rep some other post, Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Pickle_ Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 (edited) Ok I’m not going to to talk about this any more after this last comment. Manjini did not start it as he was just saying his opinion and that’s what you do on forums. I wouldn’t recommend replying to people’s comments on your application. Edited December 24, 2021 by _Pickle_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boscoe Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 13 minutes ago, _Pickle_ said: Ok I’m not going to to talk about this any more after this last comment. Manjini did not start it as he was just saying his opinion and that’s what you do on forums. I wouldn’t recommend replying to people’s comments on your application. Its a ban appeal not an application... Do you even know what you are commenting on? lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAINTY. Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 - Support- Arguing in your unban appeal...- A threat is a threat, how do we know that you weren't gonna ddos someone, then once you got banned you could just say it was a joke.P.s. Arguing with someone in your unban appeal is not a good look. Former: Grand General / Havoc Commander / ST Vice Commander EX Imperial Army Branch Representative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjacobs034 Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 8 hours ago, SAINTY. said: - Support- Arguing in your unban appeal...- A threat is a threat, how do we know that you weren't gonna ddos someone, then once you got banned you could just say it was a joke.P.s. Arguing with someone in your unban appeal is not a good look. -IC CMDR 1138 Boss -Senior Admin -Senior Gamemaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boscoe Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, SAINTY. said: - Support- Arguing in your unban appeal...- A threat is a threat, how do we know that you weren't gonna ddos someone, then once you got banned you could just say it was a joke.P.s. Arguing with someone in your unban appeal is not a good look. Because it was a joke it was just misinterpreted as a threat. They have no proof I made threats either so... also the Mod literally lied on the thread. Edited December 24, 2021 by Boscoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinity Trials Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 15 hours ago, Marshall Manjini said: been honest your just taking this to another level, there is no proof saying you were joking, there is no proof of it been a fake thing or just a joke, so the ban at that time is valid and so it is until proven else. unless there is clips,msgs, its still a invalid unban until shown proof so still -support not trying to drag on a dead argument, but If the logic you are applying with "if there is no proof then its invalid" then shouldn't pickle stay banned because he DID MRDM? Most Ban Appeals don't come down to facts, and mostly come down to if someone deserves to be unbanned or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertoManjini Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 48 minutes ago, Trinity Trials said: not trying to drag on a dead argument, but If the logic you are applying with "if there is no proof then its invalid" then shouldn't pickle stay banned because he DID MRDM? Most Ban Appeals don't come down to facts, and mostly come down to if someone deserves to be unbanned or not. WELLLLLL YOU SEE IN FACT!!!! YOU ARE WRONG!!! as you can read in that ban appeal its MRDM something are fellow thing called "logs" something we can proof and also a staff member that banned him should not have banned him meaning well... you are in fact wrong sir.... EX-Star fighter Marshall EX-NCM Secretary FAV SMT-bop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinity Trials Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Marshall Manjini said: WELLLLLL YOU SEE IN FACT!!!! YOU ARE WRONG!!! as you can read in that ban appeal its MRDM something are fellow thing called "logs" something we can proof and also a staff member that banned him should not have banned him meaning well... you are in fact wrong sir.... reading this gave me brain damage. You literally pointed out the fact that there IS logs of pickle committing MRDM, so how am I wrong? Sure, I personally don't think that he should be banned, however I was using him as an example of being subject to some bullshit logic you were using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPickle Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 FORUM DIPLOMAT MESSSAGE Please keep it to - / + "SUPPORTS" Only If this continues I will be forced to lock the Post till a SMT member decides 1 Former: Darth Vader Former: Super Administrator | Forum Diplomat | Support Advisor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
River Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 DENIED Your account will not be recieving an unban, either because you are a blacklisted member, or because your ban is deemed valid by SMT | EX Army HC for Imperial | EX DT SNR CMDR | EX IC VCMDR SEV|| EX Imperial Head Admin | 𝐒𝐮𝐩𝐩𝐨𝐫𝐭 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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