Bunny is a Bunny Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Your In-Game Name:Easter Kwabbit Your SteamID:STEAM_0:1:537984633 Staff member's In-Game Name:Not Jay/Chad B What did they do? False Warn so its a interesting situation me and my friend Watermelon Ganta were wanted and had guns out as Swat came by us so i shot cause im wanted for shooting government and swat makes a sit and chad says if im wanted i cant shoot the cops that are nearby us and jay warns us i had recording but they jumped straight to the conclusion that there was no point and didnt want to listen to mine and my friends side of the story Evidence (REQUIRED):https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/74369035/d1337ToivkHB?invite=cr-MSxEdXgsMTI1NzkzMDAs What do you think is an acceptable punishment? id like him to read over the rules better and have his past warns on people looked over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 -Support Thats clear ARDM and they didnt even get out and pulled guns out so you started it. Warn is valid but I dont know much about the thing with both sides? Do you maybe have evidence of that too? UMC l SS Assistant SAIC l SWAT PFC l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad B Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 (edited) -support just because your wanted doesn't make all gov KOS for you.... [edited part] @[KG] Jay And just like every sit I listened to both sides Edited December 5, 2021 by Chad B PD Captain | Senior Moderator | Late night minge patrol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lime King Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 -Support -You don't just shoot gov for no reason because you are wanted, SWAT never got out of his car so you had no RP reason to shoot him -Warn is valid Retired FBI Director|$2,000Donator gang|UMC LVL 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inactive Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 -support warn is valid. Making a staff report instead of a warn appeal for this is entirely unneeded. All you are trying to do is make bad publicity but its just turning onto you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScruffyPlays Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 4 hours ago, Lime King said: -Support -You don't just shoot gov for no reason because you are wanted, SWAT never got out of his car so you had no RP reason to shoot him -Warn is valid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iZz Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 14 hours ago, Lime King said: -Support -You don't just shoot gov for no reason because you are wanted, SWAT never got out of his car so you had no RP reason to shoot him -Warn is valid I'm back $427 Donated I'm not gonna be as active as I was before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceyy Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 15 hours ago, Lime King said: -Support -You don't just shoot gov for no reason because you are wanted, SWAT never got out of his car so you had no RP reason to shoot him -Warn is valid Former Stormtrooper CaptainFormer Nova Commander Comet Former Admin | Former GM Tick X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samael Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 (edited) [+/-] From the video evidence provided, in my eyes that would be ARDM. However according to the PRP MOTD, it states "Criminals must have a VALID reason to shoot at police. This includes but is not limited to - Having a warrant for shooting at government - Your vehicle being wanted in a prior pursuit - Your life is threatened by an officer" The person in question, did have a warrant for shooting a government official but his life was not being threatened by the officer in question. The rules DO NOT state that all of those conditions have to be met in order to shoot at police, it states "this includes but is not limited to" so the player in question was reasonable to assume that he was acting according to the Police RP MOTD. I am going to have to disagree with any action taken against the staff member and the player in question. However the staff member in question, if truthful that he did not give a chance to the player to explain his reasoning, then that was a mistake. He should've allowed the player to give an explanation and this would've most likely be taken as misunderstanding of rules and would serve as an education of the MOTD and a slap on the wrist, that is what was needed in this case. A verbal warning would've been justified for this situation, due to the misconception the MOTD can give. Edited December 6, 2021 by Fitz SCP-RP: - GenSec Enlisted (LCPL) PRP: (Former) - | State & DOC Command | SPMU Master Patrolman | CERT Sergeant | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thayze Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, Fitz said: [+/-] From the video evidence provided, in my eyes that would be ARDM. However according to the PRP MOTD, it states "Criminals must have a VALID reason to shoot at police. This includes but is not limited to - Having a warrant for shooting at government - Your vehicle being wanted in a prior pursuit - Your life is threatened by an officer" The person in question, did have a warrant for shooting a government official but his life was not being threatened by the officer in question. The rules DO NOT state that all of those conditions have to be met in order to shoot at police, it states "this includes but is not limited to" so the player in question was reasonable to assume that he was acting according to the Police RP MOTD. I am going to have to disagree with any action taken against the staff member and the player in question. However the staff member in question, if truthful that he did not give a chance to the player to explain his reasoning, then that was a mistake he should've allowed the player to give an explanation and this would've most likely be taken as misunderstanding of rules and would serve as an education of the MOTD and a slap on the wrist, that is what was needed in this case. A verbal warning would've been justified for this situation, due to the misconception the MOTD can give. +/- as Fitz stated, however as others have said, this should be a warn appeal not a staff report. Just because a warn may be invalid, does not automatically assume staff malpractice. As for the validity of the warn itself.... idk, some say swat never had a chance to engage, but then again your wanted, in plain view with snipers. I dont see why there is a difference in shooting someone, or waiting 10 seconds for them to get out just to get into the same gunfight. As for the claims that staff ignored your clips and your attempted explanation of the situation, there is no video proof (as of yet) and so I can only chock it up to he said she said. 1 Aviation fanatic and all things loud Also some random discord mod in a far away world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 19 hours ago, Chad B said: -support just because your wanted doesn't make all gov KOS for you.... [edited part] @[KG] Jay And just like every sit I listened to both sides -Support should be a warn appeal not Staff report as i see nothing wrong with the staff member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanzz Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 20 hours ago, Lime King said: -Support -You don't just shoot gov for no reason because you are wanted, SWAT never got out of his car so you had no RP reason to shoot him -Warn is valid FBI Retired Director|RIP MEXI GRILL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniEpic Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 23 hours ago, Chad B said: -support just because your wanted doesn't make all gov KOS for you.... [edited part] @[KG] Jay And just like every sit I listened to both sides Have to agree with chad here, nothing else to really add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Admin [GL] Mikey Posted December 6, 2021 Head Admin Share Posted December 6, 2021 Denied. Due to a lack of evidence, or for no rules or guidelines being broken by the staff and or player, no action will be taken against them. You know who I am, unless you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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