denied Purge/FS Model Changes and Combat Specialist Job Removal

[Deadly_Mistakes]

Battalion Name: Purge 

Workshop link for Purge Enlisted-Commander: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2944071652&searchtext=purge+trooper

Workshop link for FS: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3158171907&searchtext=clone+paratrooper

Purge Enlisted 
Model Path: 

- Current model: models/player/sample/purge/trooper/trooper.mdl

- New model: models/nada/purgetrooperphase2baton.mdl 

Purge Heavy
Model Path: 

- Current model: models/nada/purgetrooperelectrohammer.mdl

- New model: models/nada/purgetrooperphase2hammer.mdl

Purge Brawler 
Model Path: 

- Current model:  models/player/sample/purge/sgt/sgt.mdl

- New model: models/nada/purgetrooperphase2staff.mdl

Purge Officer
Model Path: 

- Current model: models/player/sample/purge/officer/officer.mdl

- New model: models/nada/purgetrooperphase2staff.mdl

Purge Commander

Model Path: 

- Current model: models/player/sample/purge/commander/commander.mdl

- New model: models/nada/purgetrooperphase2commander.mdl

Fireteam Spectre 
Model Path: 

- Current model: models/player/spectre/spectre.mdl

- New model: models/napixel/custom/airborn/tearsunitgreaser/tearsunitgreaser.mdl

Inquisitorious Trooper 
Model Path: 

- Current model: models/nada/purgetrooperphase2.mdl

- New model: models/player/sample/purge/sgt/sgt.mdl

Reason for change: The purge models that we have right now have been with the sever for a long time and we thought this would be an appropriate time to finally give Purge a fresh new look. The models that we want to replace our current ones with would make Purge stand out more and FS would have a better more professional look since they are a spec ops unit for Purge. The model pack also has different models for our sub branches so it is the best choice. Now since there was no officer model we decided let both the Brawler and Officer jobs have the same model since before this suggestions they already looked similar anyway. I believe these model changes would help bring in new and old players alike because they would see a brand new Purge battalion. These models would also give Purge troopers a more intimidating appearance. Now the Inquisitorious trooper already has a Phase 2 model set so we decided to use the Combat Specialist model as it's replacement so that it would not be confused with any of the other jobs.
 

Removal of a Job 

Job/Class Name: Combat Specialist [T2]

Reason for change: Since the addition the the Inquisitorious trooper to the IQ branch job listings we decided to go ahead and suggest removing the Combat Specialist job since no one ever gets on it. The Inquisitorious trooper is a level job so it is free to everyone as long as they hit the level requirement, and it just outshines the Combat Specialist because it basically gets the same weapons but with more health and armor and the ability to spawn in an ammo dispenser. 

[Glorbnob]

-1 to the models these look really bad ngl, Also I really like FS models they are dope and unique

[Gideon Hask Shadow]

-1 The current fireteam models are custom made by becket and second off They look way better then these ones these look more like phase 2 purge clones

[Deadly_Mistakes]

The phase 2 look is what we are trying to swap to in order make Purge look and feel more modern  

[Jacstur]

- Support 

As the person who got FS added (alongside Vertigo and Zabuza)(this is in no way meant to be like a flex or ego boost I just wrote the start of this baked out of my mind this morning), hell to the no with these model changes. The current FS model is the best option for the job as we searched throughly through the workshop to find it and decided it was the best option out of multiple sub par models. And if imma be real with you, the model you’re suggesting to change it with does not look good whatsoever imo

 

in regards to the purge models, the Phase 2 model ain’t it fam. Keep the current Purge models as is. Theres no need to change any of these.

you also wont be able to remove the tier job unless you have a replacement in place for it. Almost all battalions on the server are meant to have at least one. (With a few exceptions)

Edited May 6 by Jacstur

[Braylen Yorn]

+1

The entire Purge command team, as well as the High Inquisitor, discussed this and we all agree with and want it. No disrespect to the former members that dislike it but, respectfully, you are not in the battalion anymore and a change like this should be up to those players that are currently active. The models we have now aren't that great and the Brawler sub-battalion doesn't even have the bodygroups it needs. The Phase 2 models are cleaner and look much better in my opinion. Furthermore, the current FS models are alright, but the ones we decided on for the change are better. They offer much more customization in the form of really nice body groups and most importantly, they are a solid, dark color, better suited towards stealth than the bright glowing models they use now. 

[Bandito_Dorito]

+1

I personally don't mind any of these changes. Personally models aren't a big deal to me as long as they are serviceable so my opinion isn't super important in this, but I do like the phase 2 model over the current one, as the current one has more of a bucket head type look. In terms of FS I'm not of fan of removing the "drip" but the replacement model is far more clean and is nearly as good so I'm content with it. I really don't think it's such a big deal as long as purge does the same things it still does. The branch should be about the purpose, not the looks

Edited May 6 by Bandito_Dorito

[Big Drago]

+1 I world like the Inquisitorious Trooper and FS model to stay the same and I like the new purge trooper - commander models.

 

Edited May 6 by Big Drago

[Reeses]

+/-support

While I do like the models the ones we have now are just the way it is in lore and the current models for everything just make more sense. As well as the FS models look cool as it is and I honestly don't think it needs the change but if it did happen I wouldn't be mad about it.

[Jacstur]

That’s the thing tho 

the models may look nice when you test them out in single player but then they look bad once they get into the server due to compression. Especially Nada’s models (idk why)

also the FS models are CGI models they’d throw off the entirety of the server being the only CGI models (aside from Custom Classes) I’m not sure how it is now but when I was around we were always told CGI models were a no go.

[Deadly_Mistakes]

Well the current IQ trooper is the phase 2 nada model but it doesnt look bad even though it was compressed. Now it will most likely take a hit so it will not be as pretty as it was in single player, but we believe it will not turn out as bad as everyone thinks it will. Now if it does come down to it we can make a compromise to where we will not touch FS right now, but we want to change the basic Purge models and that has been in discussion for months and we think we will not find any better models out there than these.  

[Braylen Yorn]

The proposed new FS models are not CG. They use the airborne trooper model from BFII as the base. 

[GrizzlyGames]

- 1 Support the model is being used by the current Inquistorous trooper and the current FS models got that DRIP 100

[its Dank]

- Support

These models are honestly not that great, CG models have always seemed off in terms of body design, perportions (Neck, arms, legs, etc), and overall asethtic compared to other models on the server.

The 2nd model that is purposed isn't even a Purge trooper, nor has any defining chararistics that show relations to the battlion besides the Airborne Helmet. Which is honeslty not a good enough reason.

If you want to "Modernize" the battalions look, I would suggest looking into specialized or custom models for the different positions within the battlion (Enlisted, SGT, OFC, BRL, HVY, ETC) and bring them up to par with the rest of the Branches. I.E. Compared to the other battalion CMD team models (501ST, Shock, Medical, etc) the Purge CMD team seems to be bare bones and bland, with no defining features telling the CMDR, VCMDRs, and Officers apart besides pauldron color, unless we bring back the pauldron rule.

This is possible, Your Field CMDR model and My Sentinel Model are proof.

 

Edited May 7 by its Dank

[Deadly_Mistakes]

Here is the thing we have look into every possible models relating to Purge troopers in particular, custom or otherwise, did not meet our specifications because they did have disproportioned bodies, but when we look at these particular models and tested them to see if they were even worth trying we started to like them more and more to suggest changing to them. There is also the thing that our NCOs use the sub branch jobs as their NCO jobs so we do not need a SGT job for that reason. When it came to the pauldron rule it is sometimes hard to even distinguish people with our current models since the only ones that have any difference  are the HVY with the whiteish pauldron and VCMDR and CMDR with red. The Brawler and Officer jobs already look similar and hard to tell one from the other as of right now. I also stated in my last post that we do not need to touch FS right now. Now after reading some of the recent comments is that no one read that we wanted to change the IQ trooper to something else so that it would get confused with the other if it did get accepted. The only other road that we can take after this point is to make the models, but we do not know anybody that can make them and even if we did we would have to rely on on RNG at that point to see if the models are even good. This to me seems to be best route we can take. 

[Gideon Hask Shadow]

Beckett can always custom make your guy’s models like he did with tank and havoc and a bunch of other battalions 

[Jacstur]

^ what shadow said 

Beckett could quite literally make a copy of the heavy model and change the white to whatever color you guys pick 

[Deadly_Mistakes]

If he wants to do that than I have no problems 

[Purge Jeff]

+1 Personally like the proposed FS model, the phase two I'm less unsure of but that's just me. I also agree that the combat specialist is very unused, while you might see someone on the job occasionally, that is only because they are either PVT or PFC, as once you get to SPC and get to join a sub branch like heavy or brawler, the combat specialist is no longer relevant.

[skelel]

-1 i don't think the proposed fs model will fit because it's only one job. if it had multiple classes then maybe it'd make sense. you can make the current one any color if an admin shows you and itll still look good. also the first model is used for iq trooper

[Meektason1]

- support on the model stuff + support for removal Cuz people who just buy a certain rank can just get on it and its never really used

[Kujo]

+1  For FS models (I didn’t look at the other ones)

TBH with everyone having more up to date and better looking models I don’t really see a problem with them. As ARCL I fully understand how important attachments on armor would be to better differentiate one trooper from another I don’t really see a problem with the suggested models at all considering it’s a clone model for a clone unit and it’s stilll lore accurate and looks fairly well.

[halo-news117]

-1  

I feel this is un need and personal i think it pointless the models you have are really good i woud get them more attachments and more to have unique purge models that are customized to the server 

[Beckett]

DENIED

Unfortunately, we do not feel that this suggestion is suitable for implementation. 

However, we are willing to negotiate on editing the current Purge models to better suit their specialists and roles.