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*Reposting this because there was more there were some points id like to make clear below I didnt get the chance to while the post was active because I was in the middle of PCSing to another country. Skip to bottom to see clarification points* What you want to see? - OLD _____________________________________________________________________________________________ Judge / Defendant / Prosecutor You can only have a pistol for self-defense.! You cannot commit a crime while in these classes. Your job is to help people get out of jail, So RP situations out! The judge cannot deal with a friend or individual they know this is classed as Fail RP. Your judge whitelist will be removed. The judge must have a valid RP reason for setting someone free from jail. If someone is not coming to a trial, you must advert a warning toward them 3 times prior to dismissing the case. Adverts must be at least two minutes apart. You cannot accept bribes. However, you can charge people 25k for a court case and for you to Defend/Prosecute a person. Court cases can cost up to 75k. ______________________________________________________________________________________________NEW You can have class 1-3 Weapons for self-defense. No one is above the law to include the Judge and other GOV. Failure to appear in court, after being summoned (3 times), will result in a fine. Failure to pay fine to the courts is considered FailRP. Fines can roll over and collect interest if person does not pay within 8 years (480s). Payment plans are authorized. Regardless of the offense, fines to the courts cannot exceed 5MIL. While Judge is on, Courthouse belongs to Judge and not D.O.C. The Judge may order anyone to leave the courthouse if they are disrupting said trial, or being a general nuisance. The Judge is in charge of appointing Bailiffs and can dismiss a Bailiff for any reason. The Judge may not force anyone to be Bailiff. When EMS is on the Judge can order a psych eval on a suspect (if EMS agrees) and place the suspect in EMS care. EMS will then be responsible for time served as suspect will be released once deemed not a threat to public. The Judge roll is a State Judge. The Supreme Courts of North Carolina. All decisions are final. Decisions CAN be appealed if there is new found evidence. Or if there is concrete evidence of direct corruption. If judge is found being corrupted and this corruption directly influenced the verdict, which goes against concrete evidence then Judge whitelist is removed from said player. Each Judge (depending on whos on) can decide what they will and will not accept as evidence. This must be established before each trial as to not waste time. The Judge cannot switch keep switching what is and what is not accepted evidence. This can be grounds for corruption. The Judge cannot order around GOV however failure to follow a Court Order will result in a summons to court. Each Judge must set Courtroom rules in 3DTEXTCHAT. Breaking only these rules will result in contempt. Any rule not placed is not considered Contempt unless said person is warned three times to cease and dismiss behavior. If the Prosecution does not have evidence the Prosecution must drop said charges. Everyone including the prosecution has a right to a lawyer. If the Arresting Officer cannot appear in court they must have a lawyer, or "Prosecutor" represent them with given evidence. The suspect may have a lawyer or "Defense" but is required to appear in court (For plea reasons). This is to ensure GOV is not tied up with court cases after every arrest. Here is the official flow of law: !MOTD>SOP>Federal Law> State Law> Local Law (made by Pres). Interrupting a court case with aggravated circumstances (gun, weapon, etc.) is auto K.O.S. Jury duty must be requested by the Defense at the beginning of the trial. The judge has SIX (6) minutes to form a Jury of 4-8 players. This means the Jury must be in the courthouse and ready to listen in within 6 minutes. During this time the suspect must be placed in a holding cell inside the D.O.C (next to the sentencing person) awaiting trial. The Suspect acknowledges waiver of rights to speedy trial if requesting a Jury Trial. If the Jury fails to appear within 6 minutes then the Judge must continue on with the trial. The Suspect does not get reduced sentence for "Time Served' while waiting for a Jury after requesting. There is no punishment for not showing up to Jury Duty (cannot force people to RP). Only Civilian role may be called to Jury Duty. The Judge must declare a mistrial if the verdict clearly shows biased or favoritism. Failure to due so is corruption and leads to whitelist removal. After three overruled objections from one side (Prosecution, or Defense) the Judge can decide to end the case (As to save time). If the overruled objection is coming from the defense, the suspect will be jailed for said charges. If the objection is coming from the prosecution, the suspects charges will be dismissed. In order to file a civil suit there most be concrete evidence (video proof, audio, or photographic) presented to the courts before the Judge can accept. Once the prosecution sets the charges the charges cannot be changed during trial. The person is either found guilty of said charges, or innocent. Choose wisely. GOV failure to pay fines to the court can result in a vote off the job (Judge must state reason as "FailRP" and Judge must first advertise the fine 3 times with two minutes in-between each advert). Fines can only be issued to GOV through civil court, or contempt of court. (These are just some additions with more to come later) Why should we add it? - Judge/Prosecutor/Defendant is beginning to be heavily used and this will broaden the RP and use of the Judicial role. This also eliminates any room for gray areas or confusion. What are the advantages of having this? - The Judge role will be taken more seriously, Court cases will be way faster, eliminates gray area of what people can and cannot do on Judge roll. Who is it mainly for? - The rights of the people. Checks and balances within the server. Links to any content - N/A Other: Also it would be nice if we can add a "U.S Attorney" role as a whitelist job Under S.S role and a State Attorney General role under PD. The U.S. Attorney General represents the United States in litigation, oversees federal prosecutors, and advises the President and heads of federal, executive departments on legal matters. The U.S Attorney does not deal with state cases and reports directly to the S.S High Command. The U.S Attorney can reject a Presidential law and remove it if it is unconstitutional. The U.S Attorney is responsible for representing the Federal GOV and may act on its behalf in all legal proceedings in which the Federal GOV is a party. State attorneys general represent their states in litigation, oversee prosecutors, and advise members of their states' executive branches on legal matters. The State Attorney reports directly to State GOV High Command. The State Attorney is responsible for representing any GOV under the State and may act on its behalf in all legal proceedings in which the State is a party. The State Attorney is responsible for setting plea deals before a trial, and is charged with the burden of proof if suspect wants to go to court. Feel free to leave suggestions in comments to add to or take away from my suggestions. Clarification points: [GL] Locus said: -Support "While Judge is on, Courthouse belongs to Judge and not D.O.C. " It is within a prison there for by forfeit it would fall under DOC as its apart of the prison and within the grounds of the prison which in return is officially owned by the state trooper's which would mean that the judge would be able to just claim land if you think that they should be allow to own the courthouse while its on a state building. "The Judge cannot order around GOV however failure to follow a Court Order will result in a summons to court." Now this one is just straight up contradictory you say the judge cannon order around gov but than say they can order or "summon" them to court which is the same as ordering it just in a reskinned way of saying it. "The Judge is in charge of appointing Bailiffs and can dismiss a Bailiff for any reason. The Judge may not force anyone to be Bailiff." This would fall to DOC/Other Government agency's. "The Judge may order anyone to leave the courthouse if they are disrupting said trial, or being a general nuisance." Once again the grounds are owned by state and upkept by DOC and other agencies if DOC needs assistance or if other agencies wish to help out DOC. Which means you couldn't just kick out anyone from the courthouse as this would than leave a loophole where you could attempt to kick out DOC and State Officials. "GOV failure to pay fines to the court can result in a vote off the job (Judge must state reason as "FailRP" and Judge must first advertise the fine 3 times with two minutes in-between each advert)." Demotion off jobs is meant to only be done by that specific Departments command or a staff member not a random judge. This would give the judge to much power as we are a semi-serious not a serious RP as @Lime King has mentioned before. "Fines can roll over and collect interest if person does not pay within 8 years (480s). Payment plans are authorized. Regardless of the offense, fines to the courts cannot exceed 5MIL." Now this one would mean that the judge has more power to fine people than the PD does which in it self would lead to many problems a few I can even think of right now such as a judge deciding to fine a person 4,999,999. This also once again is a semi-serious server. ______________________________________________________________________________________________ My Response: "No one is above the law to include the Judge and other GOV. " Due to the way systems are set up within the server. You would need a staff member to get a corrupt a judge off the job which is already how it is. This part is just something that is already here just reworded. "There is no punishment for not showing up to Jury Duty (cannot force people to RP)." As you said here you cannot force people to RP but within this suggestion you wish to force the DOC/State to hand their own facilities over to the judge which would be in its own way forcing an RP issues that can easily lead to being a argument when you try to kick a DOC member. There wouldn't be an argument with this law. If D.O.C or another member of GOV is interrupting a court case (which happens all the time) they can and should be thrown out of the court room. 9/10X I have to drop the charges because the disruptions blocks the case from continuing. HOWEVER - You do bring up a very interesting point. The Court House should physically be separate from the D.O.C. This way there way less distraction from people being arrested (pulling up with loud sirens, people arguing while being arrested, gunshots happening because a criminal is trying to free their family from being put in jail). Also during prison riots/escapes the courts and the people in the courts wont be put in direct danger. - Being summoned to court because of concrete evidence against you, or being ordered to do something such as an arrest, etc. by the courts because of concrete evidence and actual RP'd out events is completely different than me telling a cop to do something just because I have direct ordering authority over them. - Yes only GOV can protect other GOV, however the judge should have the authority, just like in real life, to deny or accept who the Bailiff in their court room is. This is to prevent mingy behavior which has consistently been a problem in the courts which delays the trials of people and waste time. ALSO When the Bailiff is working for the Judge they are to either directly follow all orders from the Judge (no one else) or give up their job as Bailiff. Meaning FBI High Command, PD High Command, etc cannot just walk into the court house and order the Bailiff around (which has happened before). -The Judge should most definitely be able to kick anyone out who is interrupting a trial regardless of their occupation. There must be some form of order in the courts especially during a trial. The point that needs to be made here which is obvious is D.O.C does not run the Courts. If they did the Judicial branch would fall under them. The courts is a separate entity on its own. Its main goal in the RP is to prevent people from going to jail. If I have D.O.C coming in here intimidating people, causing a loud disturbance, pissing off my defendants and prosecution, and overall just causing troubles in the Court House then this is straight up grounds to have them removed from the courts. This has happened plenty of times also. - Yes this is because of a more recent serious case. GOV consistently gets found guilty in civil cases and because they are GOV and cannot be arrested they just simply refuse a court order to either appear in court, or, once found guilty, pay the plaintiff their dues. This actually had a very long sit with a senior admin who basically concluded "GOV officials can break the law and disobey the courts by refusing to show up, and not paying a fine because they cannot be arrested . However Civilians cannot do this because they can be arrested". Which we both agreed, there's nothing we can do about it now, so come to the forums and suggest an improvement to the !MOTD to avoid this. Hence why im here. 6 minutes is more than enough time for anyone to swing by the court house, pay their dues, and be on their way. But to allow GOV to just blatantly disobey the law, especially when they were found guilty in the court of law, is just failRP. Bringing this up because its a consistent issue. Also when reported to other GOV high command its just ignored. Tons of people have came to court with enough evidence and won and GOV just refused to pay for the damages in the civil suit and people have made said sits over it and was basically told theres nothing they can do about it. -If the judge decides to fine someone $4,999,999 then that person would definitely think twice before doing that offense again. The reason why the number is so high is because civil suits do not result in jail time (most of the time its against GOV or sometimes even GOV on GOV civil suits) and fining someone $4,999 they'll just commit the same crime again maybe even right infront of the judge. -The final one is just so it is in black and white that NO ONE is above the law. This is because people (and this has happened plenty of times almost everyday) act like they are above the law simply because they're high ranking etc. and would often order their subordinates to do illegal things (like wrongfully arrest my defendants, or wrongfully raid someones home, etc) which again all has happened way to many times... This rule mostly applies to enforce the checks and balances within the server. -The no showing up for Jury Duty=not being punished is because I cannot just randomly pull someone from their own RP and place them into someone elses RP if they dont want to do it. HOWEVER If someone is suing another person (as they RP'd it out with them and have evidence of this person doing something and is pressing charges) then yes they can be summoned to court to stand trial as they already involved themselves by RPing with the person who is pressing said charges. Now in regards to D.O.C "owning the courts" I will just have to go ahead and point out that they do not own the courts. If they owned the courts then there would be trials. They have no control over what the Judge can and cannot do/decide nor do they have any control over the defendants or prosecution. The Department of Corrections, in all honesty, is controlled by the warden. The warden runs the prison not the courts. Once the warden enters the court room, in the presence of the Judge, he is entering into the something he does not control, otherwise there would be no need for the court systems and the warden and district attorney can just lock people up. ALSO Regarding your point to this being a semi-serious RP. I agree. This is true, it is a semi-seriousRP however this is only argued whenever it benefits GOV jobs such as PD/SWATT/FBI etc. and quickly shot down whenever it benefits any other role. Just take a look at !MOTD. It almost seems like a legitimate Police-State. Assassins can't assassinate GOV Officials while they're in a GOV building? How did that even become apart of !MOTD. A lot of updating is needed because PD/SWATT/FBI/etc clearly feels as though they are untouchable. Think of this as direct checks and balances. Whenever a Judge is on, they should act right and stop ruining RP experiences for anyone else, the Judge is there to ensure they do it. A jail sentence is just like a warn, it literally has long term effects on a persons RP experience and sometimes people get locked up for the craziest things with random sentences never the same. The MOTD says PD cannot be corrupt. Since they starting to ignore that the Judge role needs certain powers to establish checks and balances. This server is a semi-serious RP however the Executive branch seem to get carried away with the amount of power they have and use the guise of "Semi-serious" rp to rebuke anyone (such as the legislative branch, or judicial branch) to invoke a form of checks and balances. This blatant disregard to the norms of RP is detrimental to PR for the game, and often shrinks the number of new players to the game. This suggestion is not just for the Jude/Defendant/Prosecution role, but to benefit the server as a whole be installing a balance for RP Harmony. RP shouldn't end once the cuffs are placed on someone's wrist.