Klondu - Admin Report- Accepted

[Rivian Galaxy]

Questions

1. Your In-game:

Galaxy

2. Your SteamID:

STEAM_0:0:80070469

3. The admin's name in-game:

Saber Guard Gladius

4. The admin's steam name (If you know it):

[GL] BloodyFork

5. What did the admin do:

Attempted RDM x2 | NLR | RDM

6. Evidence of the abusive action(s) (REQUIRED):

First Imagine - Thermite And I were standing around on Tatooine, when Gladius came up and threw a thermal detonator at us while on the rogue trooper job. I then stunned him and ask thermite if he through the thermal detonator to make sure before I killed Gladius.
https://gyazo.com/35cec00e170972896dfe546e33f6c2e4
https://gyazo.com/4fb66aff65e63d03f3b919253824d91e
Second Imagine - Gladius then returned and killed thermite for no reason again we were standing there doing Nothing.
https://gyazo.com/d43ff27253037bd16687f4b833bdbc5c
When I asked gladius why he killed thermite he said he can come back he and killed someone that was involved in his death just not the person that killed him.
Once you die, you cannot act upon the reason for your death. For example, you cannot immediately kill the player that killed you in your previous life. This is also known as the 'New Life Rule' or 'NLR' rule.

When I asked him why he was RDM'ing in general he said criminals can attack anyone they want.
All criminals can attack and open fire on Imperial personnel for no reason, but with a cooldown on 15 minutes.
This is only true if the person is an Imperial. I was on Pyke Supervisor Thermite Was On Scavanger.
https://gyazo.com/82cb5a07e0b4997cf897a525e71c5010

7. What do you believe should happen to the admin:

They should receive a warning

8. Any extra information:
Extra evidence that neither myself nor thermite attacked Gladius prior to this event
https://gyazo.com/729740e188b69b50487be48167bef428

Edited October 18, 2022 by GaIaxy
More Evidence

[Theta]

As always in a case like this, I'd prefer to hear the side of the other party before rending a decision. @BloodyForkwhat is your side of things?

[KLONDU]

8 minutes ago, Theta said:

As always in a case like this, I'd prefer to hear the side of the other party before rending a decision. @BloodyForkwhat is your side of things?

There are currently no clarifications in the MOTD that state that criminals cannot attack other criminals. I did not need a reason to attack them.

Logs show that I did indeed hit Thermite with my Detonator. At the time of the altercation, I did not believe I did. I came back and killed Thermite because NLR would not have applied to him if I had not hit him with the Detonator.

Galaxy would be the only one NLR would apply to, because Galaxy was the one that killed me.

Edited October 18, 2022 by BloodyFork

[ENT]

2 hours ago, GaIaxy said:

When I asked him why he was RDM'ing in general he said criminals can attack anyone they want.
All criminals can attack and open fire on Imperial personnel for no reason, but with a cooldown on 15 minutes.
This is only true if the person is an Imperial. I was on Pyke Supervisor Thermite Was On Scavanger

Criminals are allow to kill anyone including pykes and other criminal. The 15 min cooldown means they cannot kill any imperial trooper after they kill ONE of the imperial trooper for 15 mins( i dont know this 15 min cooldown include killing other criminals or not)

For the NLR part i do not know it is only apply for one player or group players (5 player together) 

overall i +/- support for now until i know the NLR part

[JackForPrez]

On 10/18/2022 at 9:56 AM, ENT said:

Criminals are allow to kill anyone including pykes and other criminal. The 15 min cooldown means they cannot kill any imperial trooper after they kill ONE of the imperial trooper for 15 mins( i dont know this 15 min cooldown include killing other criminals or not)

For the NLR part i do not know it is only apply for one player or group players (5 player together) 

overall i +/- support for now until i know the NLR part

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[Frog]

Just want to clarify something here since it seems like people are confused, Criminals (with the exception of Tusken Raiders) may not kill eachother for no reason. That is RDM.


In the MOTD we laid out every scenario where you can kill eachother, we also said that Tuskens and Dune Crawlers can kill anyone, we did not say that Criminals can kill everyone.

If we put everything that people cannot do in the MOTD it would be 30 pages long. 

[RussTime]

4 hours ago, Frog said:

Just want to clarify something here since it seems like people are confused, Criminals (with the exception of Tusken Raiders) may not kill eachother for no reason. That is RDM.


In the MOTD we laid out every scenario where you can kill eachother, we also said that Tuskens and Dune Crawlers can kill anyone, we did not say that Criminals can kill everyone.

If we put everything that people cannot do in the MOTD it would be 30 pages long. 

This is very true. I recommend reading job rules every time you join a job that you don’t fully understand or are confused about. At this time, I’m not going to give a support decision but just my opinion on the situation.

[Frog]

ACCEPTED

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