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Post name: “General Suggestion - "Longbow Rule Change"

What are you suggesting? -  Allow D Class to use the KBS Longbow.

How would this change better the server? - When rioting D Class have to deal with a lot of shit to be able to breach by themselves. GENSEC being the main force that prevents this has an insane amount of sub-branches to hold off D Class. Juggernauts that have LMG's and high HP, Wardens with cloaking capabilities and an insane shotgun, Marksman and Snipers that can literally one shot any D Class and of course the Enlisted, Officers, and GENSEC Custom Classes. On top of this Foundation Forces can use the MTF Job Pack to use Tau-5 (Over 225 HP and regeneration) and Zeta-6 (Cloaking unit with a sniper that one shots D Class). Even after all of this, they have to deal with the main MTF groups Nu-7, Delta-5, Epsilon-11, and Red Right Hand (including MTF's respected special forces) to get out of Light Containment Zone and escape. Point is that D Class are extremely out numbered and have low HP to fight through all of this and survive. This change would be very beneficial to D Class who invested their money and purchase this item through the Gaminglight Store.

Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. -  Foundation Forces would be effected because this would allow any Class D to have instant access to a sniper if they purchase it through the Gaminglight Store.

Who would this change mostly benefit? -  D Class because it gives them instant access to a sniper if they purchase it through the Gaminglight Store.

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-Support 
Forgot enlisted have very low health moving to -support as onetap is bad

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6 minutes ago, Grеg said:

+Support Longbow sucks pretty hard anyways.

 

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1 hour ago, K I W I said:

+Support
Longbow isn't that strong to begin with, plus gives people more of a reason to buy it

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-SUPPORT 

The longbow was buffed fairly recently and I think it can 1 tap some SEC jobs, IMO this gun would be way to good of a gun to let dclass have considering SEC has a hard time controlling Dblock as is anyway. Not to mention it would make the contender basically irrelevant and this would be what everyone would use.

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+Support

Either allow this weapon on D-Class or buff the contender/winchester, they got done dirty

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2 hours ago, [GL] Fizz-y Soda said:

+Support

Really is no reason to buy it since you can't use on dclass. Every other job will have better weapons already. Especially those that require long range weapons, already come with better ones.

 

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The gun does 187 damage with the combat value being set at 0.85... That one taps most Sec jobs and were gonna allow D-Class to have 0 NLR and constantly snipe GenSec! 

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1 hour ago, Coltable said:

+support

 

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1 minute ago, Sixx said:

The gun does 187 damage with the combat value being set at 0.85... That one taps most Sec jobs and were gonna allow D-Class to have 0 NLR and constantly sniper GenSec! 

0 NLR. That means you run out of spawn, kill one of the Security, die, then instantly do it again. Please explain how that isn't OP.

If you want a sniper, you are welcome to buy a D-Class CC but I don't need every Class-D armed with a gun that nearly 1 shots Security.

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6 minutes ago, Mind Stone said:

0 NLR. That means you run out of spawn, kill one of the Security, die, then instantly do it again. Please explain how that isn't OP.

If you want a sniper, you are welcome to buy a D-Class CC but I don't need every Class-D armed with a gun that nearly 1 shots Security.

 

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7 minutes ago, Mind Stone said:

0 NLR. That means you run out of spawn, kill one of the Security, die, then instantly do it again. Please explain how that isn't OP.

If you want a sniper, you are welcome to buy a D-Class CC but I don't need every Class-D armed with a gun that nearly 1 shots Security.

D Class Custom Classes don't have access to snipers. If you are referring to the Thompson Contender G2, it's is a riffle not a sniper... 

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4 hours ago, K I W I said:

+Support
Longbow isn't that strong to begin with, plus gives people more of a reason to buy it

 

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1 minute ago, Cuz L0g1c said:

D Class Custom Classes don't have access to snipers. If you are referring to the Thompson Contender G2, it's is a riffle not a sniper... 

My apologies. Its just confusing considering its in the same section as the sniper rifles and has a scope.

And the reason people buy the longbow is so they have a sniper on any non-Class D job. 

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honestly, I would +support, but security have been getting absolute demolished and this would just make things 3x worse. I agree the longbow is pretty bad, but unless it gets really nerfed I think d-class is fine how it is now

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+Support
it's rarely used the only times I've seen anyone use it has been on players just starting a rank in a branch who don't have access to a sniper job.

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2 hours ago, Mind Stone said:

0 NLR. That means you run out of spawn, kill one of the Security, die, then instantly do it again. Please explain how that isn't OP.

-Support

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