Hampter Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 What are you suggesting? - Make it so classes with cloaker abilities can't just sit in front of D-block doors. How would this change better the server? - As of now, it's incredibly hard to escape being d-block which is fine, however, letting cloakers just sit in front of d-block waiting for d-class to exit seems like an unfair advantage. There's already GENSEC, plus regular MTF and other combatant classes, so having a MTF cloak and shoot us the second we exit d-block is extremely unfair. Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - I don't think any disadvantages would happen, there is already plenty of security for d-block. Who would this change mostly benefit? - D-class, probably everyone's sanity as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Grayson Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 +Support EX MAJ In MIL EX A2 In E4 Current VCMDR Of Sarkic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J0LT Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 -support shoot corners Retired Nu7 CMDR & CI LTCOL/MAJ Senior Admin/Forums dip/Support Supervisor | former the following: HTF/E4 Head | Only Anubis award winner | Former Nu7 HFTO and CI OFTO | Sec MSGT+Pertinax Owns: Omi-9 'Last Remnants' | Farmer Tucker | Farmer Darius XII | Reznov Klushie | Foxx On: Alpha-8 | S.T.A.R.S | Iota-13 'Luxxy's Soldiers' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltable Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 its hard to get out of dblock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Twix Bar Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 I mean, the difference between a cloaker sitting outside and killing you and a normal MTF doing the same isn't that large. And, you didn't even propose a rule to put in place. -Support Current: None Former: Security Sergeant Major (and SFC), Director of Logistics, Alpha-1 Private First Class, CI Mil Private First Class (and E4 C6), Nu7 Lance Corporal, CI RnD Supervisory Agent (and EOI F3) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Its Buck Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 -support skill issue 1 RETIRED SCP-RP:Delta-5 CPT | Deputy Head G9| Medical DHFW Doctor. | E11 1LT | Head Ranger | D4 Vanguard FF5 | RnD EOI V3 Canibal ImperialRP: MC 1LT Bacon 3817 | DT SGT FF5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAlila | Tay Keith! Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 why does this need to be a server rule, why dont you talk to their branch command and make it a policy instead of a warnable offense 1 𝐒𝐂𝐏𝐑𝐏 𝐇𝐢𝐠𝐡 𝐂𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐝 | 𝐆𝐚𝐦𝐦𝐚 𝐂𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐝 - 𝐂𝐡𝐚𝐨𝐬 𝐋𝐭. 𝐂𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐞𝐫𝐈𝐦𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐚𝐥𝐑𝐏 𝐇𝐢𝐠𝐡 𝐂𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐝 | 𝐂𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐑𝐞𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐬𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐯𝐞 ₋ 𝐆𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐆𝐞𝐧𝐞𝐫𝐚𝐥 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuz L0g1c Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 9 hours ago, Coltable said: its hard to get out of dblock? W̵̠̽O̶̤̐̎͠R̷̨̯͇̘̓̓̐̚Ķ̶̨͙̌͗͋̐ ̷͎̻͈͘H̵̦̝̅́͝Ä̶̱̽R̷̔͊̀͜͠D̷̲̠̱͛͘ ̵̹̞͖͍̽͂Í̶̛̠́̎ͅÑ̶̟͈ ̸̭̖̋̀S̸̞̯͔̈́̍̈̽͜I̵̞̹̓͌̈́Ḹ̴͕̤̠̃Ë̶̘́͑Ṋ̵̰̞̀̏̄́C̸̼̱̏̑Ě̸͕̕͝ ̸͚͊͐͘Á̵̩̂̃N̶̩̦̈́Ḑ̷̲̣͐͐ ̷̨̣͇̄L̴̢̳̰̀̃E̸̙͗̏̕T̵̜́͛̿ ̴̝̯̠̐̇́S̸̠̣͋̆U̶̳̖̹̐C̶͙̩̽C̶̩̻̍̕E̷͈͖̓̈S̴͖͎̆͒͆͜S̸̥̞̗̠̀͌ ̶̫̩̬͂͛͝M̵͇̗͙͗͝͝A̶̛̬̦̾̿K̴̨̙̍ͅͅE̴̠͇̮͐͗́ ̵̳̲̅͑͝T̴͙͙̀̈́ͅH̶̢̎͛̈́̿E̴͈͖̹̔̂͝ ̴̹̯͓̂̈́N̶̦͌͒̔̎Ȍ̸̘͝I̴̭̠̅ͅS̸̭̼͋̕Ë̵́ A̵̙̥̭̠̓̅̎͘͝ͅ1̵̢̙̲̰̦̞͆͊ ̴̝̏́͑͂͝N̴̨͊̍o̸̖̦̬̅̑̇̍͠m̶̖̃a̸͉̤̜̪̘͑͌͝ḑ̶̘̣̬͇̈́ ̵͈̤̪͇̉͋̓̾Ỉ̴͓͔͍̻͖͕́͆͂̕͝ / Ş̵̧̛͙̙̼̌́͑̐͠T̶̢͔̫̿̓̿̅F̷̟̗̅̄̚ͅ ̷̝̈́̏̀̾̔̑D̸̰̓̾͌͝͝4̵̠̼̓̅̆͝͠ ̷̭̺͎̇H̸͚͖͇̃̀̋͘a̷̛͎͉̦̦̐̽́̑d̷̨͖͋e̵͍͒͆ś̵͈̪͓̞ ̸̣͉̄Ḍ̸̓I̶̩͖̖̟̯͒3̵̨̡̩͇̏̏ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K I W I Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 9 hours ago, Coltable said: its hard to get out of dblock? -Support They already can't stand in front of doors cause it's body blocking and this is more of a branch issue for any cloaking class | EX CI General | | Ex Lead Admin | | The best Fruit to exist | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampter Posted August 2, 2022 Author Share Posted August 2, 2022 4 hours ago, TAlila | Tay Keith! said: why does this need to be a server rule, why dont you talk to their branch command and make it a policy instead of a warnable offense That's a good idea, it was very late when I put this suggestion in so that's probably a better idea. I just don't know who I would even talk to about this to try and get it implemented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAlila | Tay Keith! Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, Hampter said: That's a good idea, it was very late when I put this suggestion in so that's probably a better idea. I just don't know who I would even talk to about this to try and get it implemented. I would suggest Mind 𝐒𝐂𝐏𝐑𝐏 𝐇𝐢𝐠𝐡 𝐂𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐝 | 𝐆𝐚𝐦𝐦𝐚 𝐂𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐝 - 𝐂𝐡𝐚𝐨𝐬 𝐋𝐭. 𝐂𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐞𝐫𝐈𝐦𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐚𝐥𝐑𝐏 𝐇𝐢𝐠𝐡 𝐂𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐝 | 𝐂𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐑𝐞𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐬𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐯𝐞 ₋ 𝐆𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐆𝐞𝐧𝐞𝐫𝐚𝐥 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampter Posted August 2, 2022 Author Share Posted August 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, TAlila | Tay Keith! said: I would suggest Mind Gotcha, will do thanks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumpTruck Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 8 hours ago, Right Twix Bar said: I mean, the difference between a cloaker sitting outside and killing you and a normal MTF doing the same isn't that large. And, you didn't even propose a rule to put in place. -Support 1 Former RRH Analyst X-ray 39 Former D1 Deimos I Former DDOP of RnD [CC's] Deadshot-Engineer-Snoop Dog-MTF-Alpha-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucarioKing Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 (edited) 20 hours ago, Its Buck said: -support skill issue if you know he was there just shoot him Edited August 2, 2022 by LucarioKing ︎︎︎︎︎︎︎︎🗐︎ | Owner CC: CI TF2 Heavy (without Auger)| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprink Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 22 hours ago, K I W I said: -Support They already can't stand in front of doors cause it's body blocking and this is more of a branch issue for any cloaking class Deputy Head of Security | Executive Event Team | Admin | Forum Diplomat | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ein Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 This will not fix anything. If an Exspira is outside of D-Block, it is most likely either because: 1. There is nothing else going on in site (I.E. CI Raids or SCP breaches), which is justified and it should be extremely difficult to escape when it's a Code Blue or Yellow, or 2. Because there are no other Security / MTF defending D-Block, in which case, of course they're going to sit outside of D-Block because there is nobody else guarding it and Exspira's cant enter D-Block unless it's Partial Lockdown WITH either WP+ or SCMD+ perms. The same applies to Zeta-6, Zeta-6 players will most likely focus on other problems, and if they aren't then that's an MTF issue, and 2 D-Class can take down a Zeta-6 if they're smart, even with the most ASS of weapons. RETIRED Security Colonel / Warden Legate / Juggernaut Enforcer / Research Administrator / M.A.D. Site Operations Chief / RRA Professor / MTF Delta-5 'Front Runners' Captain / Veteran Raptor Operative / Internal Affairs Agency Assistant Director / MTF Nu-7 'Hammer Down' Captain / Covert Agent / Deputy Head Field Training Officer / UN Global Occult Coalition Corporal / Combat Medic Tactical Paramedic / R&D Scientist / Marksman Recon Specialist / MTF Alpha-1 'Red Right Hand' Major / Enforcer Squadron Lead "We are the first line of defense. We are the first responders tasked to save those in danger. We have the responsibility to ensure the safety and well-being of all staff members. Because of that, you are the bravest men I have ever had the honor to serve with.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boesermaster Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Ein said: This will not fix anything. If an Exspira is outside of D-Block, it is most likely either because: 1. There is nothing else going on in site (I.E. CI Raids or SCP breaches), which is justified and it should be extremely difficult to escape when it's a Code Blue or Yellow, or 2. Because there are no other Security / MTF defending D-Block, in which case, of course they're going to sit outside of D-Block because there is nobody else guarding it and Exspira's cant enter D-Block unless it's Partial Lockdown WITH either WP+ or SCMD+ perms. The same applies to Zeta-6, Zeta-6 players will most likely focus on other problems, and if they aren't then that's an MTF issue, and 2 D-Class can take down a Zeta-6 if they're smart, even with the most ASS of weapons. A Zeta-6 Can 1 Shot the Average D-class, and they are currently pretty often in D-block, this morning we had one in D-block for quite a while, So i am gonna +1 this, most Cloaking Classes have a Gun they can 1 Shot D-classes with, if D-class arent Meta Gaming, they cant fight Back against Invisible People, Escaping should be Hard, but it shouldnt be as hard as Playing WFTO with Master Difficulty AI Hard. Which Zeta-6 and other Cloaking Classes currently do inside of D-block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ein Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 46 minutes ago, Boesermaster said: A Zeta-6 Can 1 Shot the Average D-class, and they are currently pretty often in D-block, this morning we had one in D-block for quite a while, So i am gonna +1 this, most Cloaking Classes have a Gun they can 1 Shot D-classes with, if D-class arent Meta Gaming, they cant fight Back against Invisible People, Escaping should be Hard, but it shouldnt be as hard as Playing WFTO with Master Difficulty AI Hard. Which Zeta-6 and other Cloaking Classes currently do inside of D-block. Then coordinate with your fellow d-class, I agree that Zeta-6 shouldn't be cloaked inside of D-Block considering they're gonna get crossfired by Security and it's a pain in the ass, but that's an issue to bring up to DoTF / MTF HCMD. Personally I think the only cloakers that should be allowed inside of D-Block are Exspiras (which is specifically limited to Partial Lockdown with SCMD/WP+ Perms), and RRH if absolutely necessary (which would only realistically show up during a partial / mass riot). Additionally, use your resources, listen for footsteps, tell your fellow d-class, etc etc. A Zeta-6 has to run ALL the way from EZ to D-Block after waiting a 3 minute NLR, which should be ample time to cause a ruckus considering D-Class have 0 NLR and CC's have 1 Minute. Work smarter, not harder. RETIRED Security Colonel / Warden Legate / Juggernaut Enforcer / Research Administrator / M.A.D. Site Operations Chief / RRA Professor / MTF Delta-5 'Front Runners' Captain / Veteran Raptor Operative / Internal Affairs Agency Assistant Director / MTF Nu-7 'Hammer Down' Captain / Covert Agent / Deputy Head Field Training Officer / UN Global Occult Coalition Corporal / Combat Medic Tactical Paramedic / R&D Scientist / Marksman Recon Specialist / MTF Alpha-1 'Red Right Hand' Major / Enforcer Squadron Lead "We are the first line of defense. We are the first responders tasked to save those in danger. We have the responsibility to ensure the safety and well-being of all staff members. Because of that, you are the bravest men I have ever had the honor to serve with.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayden Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Denied. The SCP-RP SMT has decided against adding this suggestion for performance reasons, the benefit to the server, or another unstated reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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