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What are you suggesting? - Make it so classes with cloaker abilities can't just sit in front of D-block doors.

How would this change better the server? - As of now, it's incredibly hard to escape being d-block which is fine, however, letting cloakers just sit in front of d-block waiting for d-class to exit seems like an unfair advantage. There's already GENSEC, plus regular MTF and other combatant classes, so having a MTF cloak and shoot us the second we exit d-block is extremely unfair.

Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - I don't think any disadvantages would happen, there is already plenty of security for d-block.

Who would this change mostly benefit? - D-class, probably everyone's sanity as well.

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I mean, the difference between a cloaker sitting outside and killing you and a normal MTF doing the same isn't that large. 

And, you didn't even propose a rule to put in place.

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why does this need to be a server rule, why dont you talk to their branch command and make it a policy instead of a warnable offense 

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9 hours ago, Coltable said:

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9 hours ago, Coltable said:

its hard to get out of dblock? Excuse Me Reaction GIF by One Chicago

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They already can't stand in front of doors cause it's body blocking and this is more of a branch issue for any cloaking class

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4 hours ago, TAlila | Tay Keith! said:

why does this need to be a server rule, why dont you talk to their branch command and make it a policy instead of a warnable offense 

That's a good idea, it was very late when I put this suggestion in so that's probably a better idea. I just don't know who I would even talk to about this to try and get it implemented.

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3 minutes ago, Hampter said:

That's a good idea, it was very late when I put this suggestion in so that's probably a better idea. I just don't know who I would even talk to about this to try and get it implemented.

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8 hours ago, Right Twix Bar said:

I mean, the difference between a cloaker sitting outside and killing you and a normal MTF doing the same isn't that large. 

And, you didn't even propose a rule to put in place.

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22 hours ago, K I W I said:

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They already can't stand in front of doors cause it's body blocking and this is more of a branch issue for any cloaking class

 

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This will not fix anything. If an Exspira is outside of D-Block, it is most likely either because: 1. There is nothing else going on in site (I.E. CI Raids or SCP breaches), which is justified and it should be extremely difficult to escape when it's a Code Blue or Yellow, or 2. Because there are no other Security / MTF defending D-Block, in which case, of course they're going to sit outside of D-Block because there is nobody else guarding it and Exspira's cant enter D-Block unless it's Partial Lockdown WITH either WP+ or SCMD+ perms.

The same applies to Zeta-6, Zeta-6 players will most likely focus on other problems, and if they aren't then that's an MTF issue, and 2 D-Class can take down a Zeta-6 if they're smart, even with the most ASS of weapons.

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1 hour ago, Ein said:

This will not fix anything. If an Exspira is outside of D-Block, it is most likely either because: 1. There is nothing else going on in site (I.E. CI Raids or SCP breaches), which is justified and it should be extremely difficult to escape when it's a Code Blue or Yellow, or 2. Because there are no other Security / MTF defending D-Block, in which case, of course they're going to sit outside of D-Block because there is nobody else guarding it and Exspira's cant enter D-Block unless it's Partial Lockdown WITH either WP+ or SCMD+ perms.

The same applies to Zeta-6, Zeta-6 players will most likely focus on other problems, and if they aren't then that's an MTF issue, and 2 D-Class can take down a Zeta-6 if they're smart, even with the most ASS of weapons.

A Zeta-6 Can 1 Shot the Average D-class, and they are currently pretty often in D-block, this morning we had one in D-block for quite a while,

So i am gonna +1 this, most Cloaking Classes have a Gun they can 1 Shot D-classes with, if D-class arent Meta Gaming, they cant fight Back against Invisible People, Escaping should be Hard, but it shouldnt be as hard as Playing WFTO with Master Difficulty AI Hard. Which Zeta-6 and other Cloaking Classes currently do inside of D-block.

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46 minutes ago, Boesermaster said:

A Zeta-6 Can 1 Shot the Average D-class, and they are currently pretty often in D-block, this morning we had one in D-block for quite a while,

So i am gonna +1 this, most Cloaking Classes have a Gun they can 1 Shot D-classes with, if D-class arent Meta Gaming, they cant fight Back against Invisible People, Escaping should be Hard, but it shouldnt be as hard as Playing WFTO with Master Difficulty AI Hard. Which Zeta-6 and other Cloaking Classes currently do inside of D-block.

Then coordinate with your fellow d-class, I agree that Zeta-6 shouldn't be cloaked inside of D-Block considering they're gonna get crossfired by Security and it's a pain in the ass, but that's an issue to bring up to DoTF / MTF HCMD. Personally I think the only cloakers that should be allowed inside of D-Block are Exspiras (which is specifically limited to Partial Lockdown with SCMD/WP+ Perms), and RRH if absolutely necessary (which would only realistically show up during a partial / mass riot).

Additionally, use your resources, listen for footsteps, tell your fellow d-class, etc etc. A Zeta-6 has to run ALL the way from EZ to D-Block after waiting a 3 minute NLR, which should be ample time to cause a ruckus considering D-Class have 0 NLR and CC's have 1 Minute. Work smarter, not harder.

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