Cosmic Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 On 7/24/2022 at 5:48 AM, Hex-G said: +25 AP (200) On 7/24/2022 at 5:48 AM, Hex-G said: +25 AP (175) How come everytime I look at a new Gensec Update they're closer to having Nu7 Hp. Tanks or whatever you guys are still Gensec, if people want to be beefy and have good guns just join nu7 no need to make a bootleg Task Force. On 7/24/2022 at 5:48 AM, Hex-G said: Negev - tfa_csgo_negev Definitely no. I just don't see much need to this much power, you guys already 3 tap every d-class except Farmers cause they're built different, every branch update you get closer and closer to a task force and I don't really think that's what gensec's supposed to be. Not to mention you guys only went over with a few branches only after posting the branch update and with some branches you didn't go over with them at all, not nice gotta say. Getting opinion from someone that was in Gensec defeats the whole purpose of feedback doesn't it. -Support 1 1 EX Head Of Staff SCP-RP | CI will forever be in my heart. 1/15/21 - 8/1/22 (CI CMDR Cosmic ITLY) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post APE Posted July 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2022 45 minutes ago, Cosmic said: How come everytime I look at a new Gensec Update they're closer to having Nu7 Hp. Tanks or whatever you guys are still Gensec, if people want to be beefy and have good guns just join nu7 no need to make a bootleg Task Force. Definitely no. I just don't see much need to this much power, you guys already 3 tap every d-class except Farmers cause they're built different, every branch update you get closer and closer to a task force and I don't really think that's what gensec's supposed to be. Not to mention you guys only went over with a few branches only after posting the branch update and with some branches you didn't go over with them at all, not nice gotta say. Getting opinion from someone that was in Gensec defeats the whole purpose of feedback doesn't it. -Support Addressing the point you made regarding HP and AP, here's an answer for you. Gensec are supposed to be scaled right under Nu7 HP and AP. There's a whole caste to it that's been around for ages, and an actual sheet that compares and contrasts the branches HP and AP differentials so that we can make sure no branch is abundantly over the other. If Nu7 bumps up their HP and AP, Security does as well. Nu7 bumps based off CI and CI bumps based off E-11. These Security kids are literally supposed to only have a bit less HP than Nu7 in all equivalent or semi equivalent jobs. You said "closer" but that's where we always are, closer, never further because its Gensec's literal right to be close to Nu7 HP AP and it's been that way since ever. Secondly, pardon my French- Negev is basic shit that's been around forever. it's not phenomenal, it's quite literally the same as an Ares, which we already have on jobs. It's the same as any 1500 RPM LMG with the same stats and everything, not to mention Negev is dog anyways now since you can't BHOP spam with it so stop whining. I would take a good shotgun or an AR any day over a Negev which gives crouch speed movement. Farmers aren't "built different", it's just crouch jump spamming and hopping around. If anything, LMG users should be easier for DClass and your Farmers to kill since they can't match the movement of your crouchspam hitbox breaking pogo sticking. Why would people want a strong Gensec? perhaps because of the same reasons you argue that CI needs to be busted as hell, "We have to beat all the branches to get to DBLOCK" Except its easy and Ya'll do it almost every time because guess what, your classes are great, and your players are good. Security loses every time 9/10. Security having the works makes sense, because Surprise! There aren't 3 MTF branches housed on any site in actual SCP lore lmao. Gensec and DBLOCK are the cornerstone of the server, and as a DCLASS MAIN I can say this will make no difference to DCLASS riots because (no offense to the Gensec members) but if you give a monkey a wrench (a negev in this case) Hes still just gonna swing it like an idiot. This update is meager and not a game changer whatsoever, its standard issue. 25 more HP and AP, woah, a whole 3 more bullets needed to mow them down. Nothing will change, no power will shift, DCLASS mains will still rock the shit out of Gensec. Frankly, you obviously have very strong and heartfelt emotions about security, and I don't believe your go ahead and "opinion" would matter in a branch update as small and balancing as this one. Even if we were equal with Nu7 in an alternate universe, CI wouldn't have an issue fighting gensec because our branch is mainly comprised of lousy and weak enlisted and NCO jobs that aren't a threat. The 3 guys playing on a wardens or Jugg job shouldn't be that much of a fear factor for you. I'm just hoping your response wasn't out of a petty idea that Gensec should be weak and not able to contend with the other combat branches. I get it, you want to have fun and mow down new players with a tec-9 on farmer, but even though half of the branch has the brain capacity of a warm banana, the SEC boys still have to deal with a lot. Every breached SCP heads to DBLOCK, all CI raids lead to DBLOCK, all GOI want to make it to LCZ. DClass always riot and custom classes combined with mined guns and armor in large numbers mow through DBLOCK. If you want to kill foundation personnel, LCZ is where you go. Sec is in the thick of it and they deserve to stand as strong as they reasonably can, and this update is more than reasonable. 8 1 1 Ret. Security Colonel || Ret. Head Warden || D-Class High Council || Former MTF Alpha 1 'Red Right Hand' Juliette 69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgnisNuts Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 14 hours ago, Eyelander said: -support a lot of this seems like overkill. CI CMDRCC: CI Requiem Squad XH-76 Biggest DMC Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grеg Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 12 hours ago, Ein said: That's the beretta.... A pistol.. Not my fault when he misspelled it, lol. Ranks: Security SM Greg | RRH Guardian Whiskey 11 Security Logo Designer | Premiere Club | #FreeMe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarGar Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 -support next time you guys make a branch update make sure to come to CI to verify we're alright with it. We did it for you guys... Resigned CI CMDR Gar | Former E11 SGT Gar | RRH Guardian Yankee 42 | Former D5 CPL Gar (one of the first) | A1 Steak Sauce I | Farmer Gar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Fizz-y Soda Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 (edited) Did Nenea make this? You're getting a lot of -support. Honestly this needs work. Agreeing with what many are saying, I don't think you guys need to buff the living hell out of juggs. If you feel that weak, hold more PTs and strategize more because you guys have plenty of resources currently to hold off well. Activity is your biggest issue but the jobs are there. -support if i really need to make that clear. Edited July 25, 2022 by [GL] Fizz-y Soda 5 CI CMDR / CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaten Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 (edited) -support reasons listed farmer on top Edited July 25, 2022 by Eaten 1 1 1 1 hi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Big Daddy Triangle Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 +Support. we went from basically free labor to extremely cheap labor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lafleur Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 + SUPPPORTT SCP-RP: E-11 SSGT | EXM | CE | DoRCU | Senior Ranger Canadian | CI LCPL | JFTO | CQOP | Platinum PoliceRP: SNR Lafleur 1D45 | FBI Probatory Agent | DiamondRetired: Medical Supervisor | E-11 SM | Nu-7 SM | DHFTO | HTF Mark II | Security CPT | Warden Centurion | Senior Moderator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proximo Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 +support Former E11 Captain, D5 Sergeant, V1 [EOI], CI LT, and Nu7 LTCurrent E11 LCPL|Riot Shield Abuser|Cloak hater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrshafer Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 +support LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOO Current Ranks Chaos Insurgency CMDR Jrshafer | Security 2LT | Assistant Chief of EMS Former Ranks! Former Alpha-1 Captain Former Physician Former Deputy Head of Security Armored Shield Former Member of the Community Blacklist Team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Krendel Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Honestly I'm not sure what's up with all of these other reply's, but if you take into consideration that there is a new mining system which can easily give dclass guns, when there is constantly Dclass CCs bombarding us and that almost all of the time there is only 1 or 2 Juggernauts or wardens on, AND LCZ is the zone where EVERYONE wants to be, (SCPs, Sarkic and CI during mostly any type of raid) its understandable to give these slight buffs, and for those who say its overkill, its not whatsoever, that 25 HP or AP there isnt gonna do jack to any CI, Sarkic, or dclass that is trying to kill them, those small gun changes arent even that big, the Negev sucks ass for most things. All in all, MASSIVE + Support 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vuitheirt Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 +Support I keep a stiff upper lip and I shoot, shoot, shoot from the hip I got a stiff upper lip, come on baby. Retired Nu7 Captain/Maintenance OM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PandaInShitpostLand Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 On 7/25/2022 at 9:31 PM, The Krendel said: Honestly I'm not sure what's up with all of these other reply's, but if you take into consideration that there is a new mining system which can easily give dclass guns, when there is constantly Dclass CCs bombarding us and that almost all of the time there is only 1 or 2 Juggernauts or wardens on, AND LCZ is the zone where EVERYONE wants to be, (SCPs, Sarkic and CI during mostly any type of raid) its understandable to give these slight buffs, and for those who say its overkill, its not whatsoever, that 25 HP or AP there isnt gonna do jack to any CI, Sarkic, or dclass that is trying to kill them, those small gun changes arent even that big, the Negev sucks ass for most things. All in all, MASSIVE + Support The mining system is a massive time investment for a weapon that will last 5 seconds because the people mining are (most of the time) unskilled 100 100 apes The God Gamer of the Shitpost Squadron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOURMOM.COM Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 On 7/25/2022 at 2:45 AM, Cosmic said: How come everytime I look at a new Gensec Update they're closer to having Nu7 Hp. Tanks or whatever you guys are still Gensec, if people want to be beefy and have good guns just join nu7 no need to make a bootleg Task Force. Definitely no. I just don't see much need to this much power, you guys already 3 tap every d-class except Farmers cause they're built different, every branch update you get closer and closer to a task force and I don't really think that's what gensec's supposed to be. Not to mention you guys only went over with a few branches only after posting the branch update and with some branches you didn't go over with them at all, not nice gotta say. Getting opinion from someone that was in Gensec defeats the whole purpose of feedback doesn't it. -Support someone once said that every job must have 500, 250 - support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprink Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 On 7/28/2022 at 3:38 PM, PandaInShitpostLand said: The mining system is a massive time investment for a weapon that will last 5 seconds because the people mining are (most of the time) unskilled 100 100 apes You underestimate d-class's coordination and skill, most of them are not "unskilled apes" or "bald men with pistols" 1 Deputy Head of Security | Executive Event Team | Admin | Forum Diplomat | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grеg Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Sprink said: You underestimate d-class's coordination and skill, most of them are not "unskilled apes" or "bald men with pistols" Some of the best combatants on the server play as D-Class. Don't be dissing them. Ranks: Security SM Greg | RRH Guardian Whiskey 11 Security Logo Designer | Premiere Club | #FreeMe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lord Stolas Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 + SUPPORT Give NCOs a secondary already SCPRP: AHOME | Nu-7 Quartermaster | E11 Staff Sergent | Senior Medical Specialist | Experienced Marksman | Junior Combat Engineer | Rapid Response Team | Ranger | SWRP: Pyke Soldier I | ST SFC | Apprentice IV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombiekillyamom Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 +SUPPORT NEW WARDEN GUNS BABY LETS GO SCP:RP Security WDA Titus WA02 | SEC CPL Hanjo Imperial RP: 501st HVYL Hanjo LTCOL | Sen Mod | SCTI SFC Hanjo | Lord III Hanjo | RG CDT III Nano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LilThinMints Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 (edited) Non cc dclass dogshit now Gensec becoming their own task force Farmers on top -support Edited July 31, 2022 by LilThinMints Free Melly Free TayK Free Fetty Wap Free Pooh Shiesty Current Rank/s: none dumbass Former Ranks: E11 2LT, CI SM, RND SVA, Gen-Sec MSGT, Nu7 SGT, RRH Guardians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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