lower transfer rank pls - Denied

[scotched]

What are you suggesting? - To lower the transfer rank to SGT

How would this change better the server? - This will change better for players, lets say they are the rank of NCO+ and they see a battalion that they see that looks really good and have been it before and want to play in it, so at the rank of lets say, SSGT people want to join a branch but don't want to start from the bottom completely again, so most of them burn themself out to WO/2LT just to transfer and then they retire from the server because they burned themselves out to transfer to a battalion they really wanted to join.

Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - Absolutely not, 0 disadvantages. 

Who would this change mostly benefit? - Well, it won't burn players out to get to a rank that they want, and they can ENJOY to play the branch that they want to join.

[Connor64]

are you talking about MTF branches or Gensec Branch?

[Loaff]

-support 

0 disadvantages is far from correct.

There is a reason it's only command that can transfer, and why it's a minimum 2 rank demotion to the transfer branch. Prior to the creation of these transfer rules, branch hopping was a common issue on the server. 

Speaking of 2 rank demotions: this segment of the transfer rules are specifically suited to command, as a 2 rank demotion is far greater in scope in command than it is in enlisted. An E11 SM could transfer to Nu7 and only be demoted to SSGT, a *far* less impactful demotion than something like a Maintenance Manager transferring to Research and being demoted to a Research Supervisor. The former would take you 2-3 weeks to get back to your original rank, the latter would take 2 months at the minimum.

If you're being burned out trying to get command, you're either pushing yourself far too hard or just burn out exceedingly easily. 

Transferring is not a light transaction, certainly not light enough to be accessible to NCO's. Transferring should take effort. It should stay with command.

Edited July 4, 2022 by Loaff

[ItzGray]

20 minutes ago, Loaff said:

-support 

0 disadvantages is far from correct.

There is a reason it's only command that can transfer, and why it's a minimum 2 rank demotion to the transfer branch. Prior to the creation of these transfer rules, branch hopping was a common issue on the server. 

Speaking of 2 rank demotions: this segment of the transfer rules are specifically suited to command, as a 2 rank demotion is far greater in scope in command than it is in enlisted. An E11 SM could transfer to Nu7 and only be demoted to SSGT, a *far* less impactful demotion than something like a Maintenance Manager transferring to Research and being demoted to a Research Supervisor. The former would take you 2-3 weeks to get back to your original rank, the latter would take 2 months at the minimum.

If you're being burned out trying to get command, you're either pushing yourself far too hard or just burn out exceedingly easily. 

Transferring is not a light transaction, certainly not light enough to be accessible to NCO's. Transferring should take effort. It should stay with command.

 

[Ozzie_]

39 minutes ago, Loaff said:

-support 

0 disadvantages is far from correct.

There is a reason it's only command that can transfer, and why it's a minimum 2 rank demotion to the transfer branch. Prior to the creation of these transfer rules, branch hopping was a common issue on the server. 

Speaking of 2 rank demotions: this segment of the transfer rules are specifically suited to command, as a 2 rank demotion is far greater in scope in command than it is in enlisted. An E11 SM could transfer to Nu7 and only be demoted to SSGT, a *far* less impactful demotion than something like a Maintenance Manager transferring to Research and being demoted to a Research Supervisor. The former would take you 2-3 weeks to get back to your original rank, the latter would take 2 months at the minimum.

If you're being burned out trying to get command, you're either pushing yourself far too hard or just burn out exceedingly easily. 

Transferring is not a light transaction, certainly not light enough to be accessible to NCO's. Transferring should take effort. It should stay with command.

 

[K I W I]

-Support
Player should have to earn their spot to be even considered to just straight up transfer to another branch, the reason it's at command is because you've shown competency and knowledge on other branches and experience on the server in general.
 

[Pills]

5 minutes ago, K I W I said:

-Support
Player should have to earn their spot to be even considered to just straight up transfer to another branch, the reason it's at command is because you've shown competency and knowledge on other branches and experience on the server in general.
 

This also lot more work for HCMD

[CyClone]

11 minutes ago, K I W I said:

-Support
Player should have to earn their spot to be even considered to just straight up transfer to another branch, the reason it's at command is because you've shown competency and knowledge on other branches and experience on the server in general.
 

no thank you lmao

[Nydekore]

1 hour ago, Loaff said:

-support 

0 disadvantages is far from correct.

There is a reason it's only command that can transfer, and why it's a minimum 2 rank demotion to the transfer branch. Prior to the creation of these transfer rules, branch hopping was a common issue on the server. 

Speaking of 2 rank demotions: this segment of the transfer rules are specifically suited to command, as a 2 rank demotion is far greater in scope in command than it is in enlisted. An E11 SM could transfer to Nu7 and only be demoted to SSGT, a *far* less impactful demotion than something like a Maintenance Manager transferring to Research and being demoted to a Research Supervisor. The former would take you 2-3 weeks to get back to your original rank, the latter would take 2 months at the minimum.

If you're being burned out trying to get command, you're either pushing yourself far too hard or just burn out exceedingly easily. 

Transferring is not a light transaction, certainly not light enough to be accessible to NCO's. Transferring should take effort. It should stay with command.

 

[Gyara]

3 hours ago, Loaff said:

-support 

0 disadvantages is far from correct.

There is a reason it's only command that can transfer, and why it's a minimum 2 rank demotion to the transfer branch. Prior to the creation of these transfer rules, branch hopping was a common issue on the server. 

Speaking of 2 rank demotions: this segment of the transfer rules are specifically suited to command, as a 2 rank demotion is far greater in scope in command than it is in enlisted. An E11 SM could transfer to Nu7 and only be demoted to SSGT, a *far* less impactful demotion than something like a Maintenance Manager transferring to Research and being demoted to a Research Supervisor. The former would take you 2-3 weeks to get back to your original rank, the latter would take 2 months at the minimum.

If you're being burned out trying to get command, you're either pushing yourself far too hard or just burn out exceedingly easily. 

Transferring is not a light transaction, certainly not light enough to be accessible to NCO's. Transferring should take effort. It should stay with command.

 

[Gunther]

3 hours ago, Loaff said:

-support 

0 disadvantages is far from correct.

There is a reason it's only command that can transfer, and why it's a minimum 2 rank demotion to the transfer branch. Prior to the creation of these transfer rules, branch hopping was a common issue on the server. 

Speaking of 2 rank demotions: this segment of the transfer rules are specifically suited to command, as a 2 rank demotion is far greater in scope in command than it is in enlisted. An E11 SM could transfer to Nu7 and only be demoted to SSGT, a *far* less impactful demotion than something like a Maintenance Manager transferring to Research and being demoted to a Research Supervisor. The former would take you 2-3 weeks to get back to your original rank, the latter would take 2 months at the minimum.

If you're being burned out trying to get command, you're either pushing yourself far too hard or just burn out exceedingly easily. 

Transferring is not a light transaction, certainly not light enough to be accessible to NCO's. Transferring should take effort. It should stay with command.

Based on what Loaff said, it also makes sense that an MTF transferring to another MTF team would not be so heavily penalized since its the same branch and/or field, whereas Maintenance becoming Research are two completely different jobs.

[Operator Houston]

- support

nco is so easy to get bro

[1stSavagerY]

6 hours ago, Loaff said:

-support 

0 disadvantages is far from correct.

There is a reason it's only command that can transfer, and why it's a minimum 2 rank demotion to the transfer branch. Prior to the creation of these transfer rules, branch hopping was a common issue on the server. 

Speaking of 2 rank demotions: this segment of the transfer rules are specifically suited to command, as a 2 rank demotion is far greater in scope in command than it is in enlisted. An E11 SM could transfer to Nu7 and only be demoted to SSGT, a *far* less impactful demotion than something like a Maintenance Manager transferring to Research and being demoted to a Research Supervisor. The former would take you 2-3 weeks to get back to your original rank, the latter would take 2 months at the minimum.

If you're being burned out trying to get command, you're either pushing yourself far too hard or just burn out exceedingly easily. 

Transferring is not a light transaction, certainly not light enough to be accessible to NCO's. Transferring should take effort. It should stay with command.

 

[Yato Sensei]

8 hours ago, Loaff said:

-support 

0 disadvantages is far from correct.

There is a reason it's only command that can transfer, and why it's a minimum 2 rank demotion to the transfer branch. Prior to the creation of these transfer rules, branch hopping was a common issue on the server. 

Speaking of 2 rank demotions: this segment of the transfer rules are specifically suited to command, as a 2 rank demotion is far greater in scope in command than it is in enlisted. An E11 SM could transfer to Nu7 and only be demoted to SSGT, a *far* less impactful demotion than something like a Maintenance Manager transferring to Research and being demoted to a Research Supervisor. The former would take you 2-3 weeks to get back to your original rank, the latter would take 2 months at the minimum.

If you're being burned out trying to get command, you're either pushing yourself far too hard or just burn out exceedingly easily. 

Transferring is not a light transaction, certainly not light enough to be accessible to NCO's. Transferring should take effort. It should stay with command.

If you find another branch interesting, just join it and rank up. Getting up to SM is almost no effort.

[Demon Dice]

9 hours ago, Loaff said:

-support 

0 disadvantages is far from correct.

There is a reason it's only command that can transfer, and why it's a minimum 2 rank demotion to the transfer branch. Prior to the creation of these transfer rules, branch hopping was a common issue on the server. 

Speaking of 2 rank demotions: this segment of the transfer rules are specifically suited to command, as a 2 rank demotion is far greater in scope in command than it is in enlisted. An E11 SM could transfer to Nu7 and only be demoted to SSGT, a *far* less impactful demotion than something like a Maintenance Manager transferring to Research and being demoted to a Research Supervisor. The former would take you 2-3 weeks to get back to your original rank, the latter would take 2 months at the minimum.

If you're being burned out trying to get command, you're either pushing yourself far too hard or just burn out exceedingly easily. 

Transferring is not a light transaction, certainly not light enough to be accessible to NCO's. Transferring should take effort. It should stay with command.

 

[Some Weeb]

15 hours ago, Pills said:

This also lot more work for HCMD

Just start coding rosters lmfao it's not too hard to do that and when used right can be almost twice as effective then any HCMD. 

 

-Support 

I am almost 100% sure this idea is inspired by CWRP servers or Military servers and the reason they wouldn't work on gaminglight is sort of what @K I W Isaid in GL branches can have lots of different rules that change each branch for better or worse while most of the said servers that employ these kinds of transfer policies  tend to have more (global) sets of rules. 

So yeah putting this in SCP would be a logistical nightmare to say the least.

[scotched]

3 hours ago, Some Weeb said:

I am almost 100% sure this idea is inspired by CWRP servers or Military servers

Yes, well it was inspired by Gaminglight ImperialRP servers

[PandaInShitpostLand]

Would be something to bring up to SA, and also -support. no

[Chineseman]

22 hours ago, Loaff said:

-support 

0 disadvantages is far from correct.

There is a reason it's only command that can transfer, and why it's a minimum 2 rank demotion to the transfer branch. Prior to the creation of these transfer rules, branch hopping was a common issue on the server. 

Speaking of 2 rank demotions: this segment of the transfer rules are specifically suited to command, as a 2 rank demotion is far greater in scope in command than it is in enlisted. An E11 SM could transfer to Nu7 and only be demoted to SSGT, a *far* less impactful demotion than something like a Maintenance Manager transferring to Research and being demoted to a Research Supervisor. The former would take you 2-3 weeks to get back to your original rank, the latter would take 2 months at the minimum.

If you're being burned out trying to get command, you're either pushing yourself far too hard or just burn out exceedingly easily. 

Transferring is not a light transaction, certainly not light enough to be accessible to NCO's. Transferring should take effort. It should stay with command.

 

[Sparkle]

23 hours ago, Loaff said:

-support 

0 disadvantages is far from correct.

There is a reason it's only command that can transfer, and why it's a minimum 2 rank demotion to the transfer branch. Prior to the creation of these transfer rules, branch hopping was a common issue on the server. 

Speaking of 2 rank demotions: this segment of the transfer rules are specifically suited to command, as a 2 rank demotion is far greater in scope in command than it is in enlisted. An E11 SM could transfer to Nu7 and only be demoted to SSGT, a *far* less impactful demotion than something like a Maintenance Manager transferring to Research and being demoted to a Research Supervisor. The former would take you 2-3 weeks to get back to your original rank, the latter would take 2 months at the minimum.

If you're being burned out trying to get command, you're either pushing yourself far too hard or just burn out exceedingly easily. 

Transferring is not a light transaction, certainly not light enough to be accessible to NCO's. Transferring should take effort. It should stay with command.

This covers just about everything. Any changes is extremely unlikely to happen even on the Site Admin side of things.

[ShadowPL]

23 hours ago, Loaff said:

-support 

0 disadvantages is far from correct.

There is a reason it's only command that can transfer, and why it's a minimum 2 rank demotion to the transfer branch. Prior to the creation of these transfer rules, branch hopping was a common issue on the server. 

Speaking of 2 rank demotions: this segment of the transfer rules are specifically suited to command, as a 2 rank demotion is far greater in scope in command than it is in enlisted. An E11 SM could transfer to Nu7 and only be demoted to SSGT, a *far* less impactful demotion than something like a Maintenance Manager transferring to Research and being demoted to a Research Supervisor. The former would take you 2-3 weeks to get back to your original rank, the latter would take 2 months at the minimum.

If you're being burned out trying to get command, you're either pushing yourself far too hard or just burn out exceedingly easily. 

Transferring is not a light transaction, certainly not light enough to be accessible to NCO's. Transferring should take effort. It should stay with command.

 

[Sixx]

-Support
I agree with the people above.
Also, I dont want like 50 SGTs msging me to transfer, its a clusterfuck within SA waiting to happen if this goes through. 

[Adams the research one]

-Soup

[DumpTruck]

On 7/4/2022 at 11:44 PM, Loaff said:

-support 

0 disadvantages is far from correct.

There is a reason it's only command that can transfer, and why it's a minimum 2 rank demotion to the transfer branch. Prior to the creation of these transfer rules, branch hopping was a common issue on the server. 

Speaking of 2 rank demotions: this segment of the transfer rules are specifically suited to command, as a 2 rank demotion is far greater in scope in command than it is in enlisted. An E11 SM could transfer to Nu7 and only be demoted to SSGT, a *far* less impactful demotion than something like a Maintenance Manager transferring to Research and being demoted to a Research Supervisor. The former would take you 2-3 weeks to get back to your original rank, the latter would take 2 months at the minimum.

If you're being burned out trying to get command, you're either pushing yourself far too hard or just burn out exceedingly easily. 

Transferring is not a light transaction, certainly not light enough to be accessible to NCO's. Transferring should take effort. It should stay with command.

 

[Coltable]

Denied. The SCP-RP SMT has decided against adding this suggestion for performance reasons, the benefit to the server, or another unstated reason.