scotched Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 What are you suggesting? - To lower the transfer rank to SGT How would this change better the server? - This will change better for players, lets say they are the rank of NCO+ and they see a battalion that they see that looks really good and have been it before and want to play in it, so at the rank of lets say, SSGT people want to join a branch but don't want to start from the bottom completely again, so most of them burn themself out to WO/2LT just to transfer and then they retire from the server because they burned themselves out to transfer to a battalion they really wanted to join. Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - Absolutely not, 0 disadvantages. Who would this change mostly benefit? - Well, it won't burn players out to get to a rank that they want, and they can ENJOY to play the branch that they want to join. Current: Nu-7 2LT scotched ZETA, CI MSGT scotched Former: DT PFC CR7, IC DMS SFC 1205 Corr, IQ/Purge MSG/Lord III Lucifer, MC SS PFC Freyja 1170, ST/Shore ENG SCT SFC griff 1277, LCPL Mark 1B57, State Trooper PVT Mark, FBI SA David Martinez IF Squad Lead (CPT) Neeko Ivy, SHG Senior Guard (1LT) Lucifer, BWA Owner Spiral, RIS Unit R scotched, Security MSGT WDXH IJG scotched CI R&D IIN(WO) scotched MTF D5 SRO DDIR SVFTO CPT scotched ZETA/G9 Murmillo Daimyo GM1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor64 Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 are you talking about MTF branches or Gensec Branch? Current: Medical Command (Surgeon) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loaff Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) -support 0 disadvantages is far from correct. There is a reason it's only command that can transfer, and why it's a minimum 2 rank demotion to the transfer branch. Prior to the creation of these transfer rules, branch hopping was a common issue on the server. Speaking of 2 rank demotions: this segment of the transfer rules are specifically suited to command, as a 2 rank demotion is far greater in scope in command than it is in enlisted. An E11 SM could transfer to Nu7 and only be demoted to SSGT, a *far* less impactful demotion than something like a Maintenance Manager transferring to Research and being demoted to a Research Supervisor. The former would take you 2-3 weeks to get back to your original rank, the latter would take 2 months at the minimum. If you're being burned out trying to get command, you're either pushing yourself far too hard or just burn out exceedingly easily. Transferring is not a light transaction, certainly not light enough to be accessible to NCO's. Transferring should take effort. It should stay with command. Edited July 4, 2022 by Loaff 2 Former Ranks Head Of Maintenance And Engineering Senior Admin Support Supervisor Forum Diplomat Custom Classes The Sniper (Owner) XG56-Orion's Belt (Owner) The Engineer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItzGray Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 20 minutes ago, Loaff said: -support 0 disadvantages is far from correct. There is a reason it's only command that can transfer, and why it's a minimum 2 rank demotion to the transfer branch. Prior to the creation of these transfer rules, branch hopping was a common issue on the server. Speaking of 2 rank demotions: this segment of the transfer rules are specifically suited to command, as a 2 rank demotion is far greater in scope in command than it is in enlisted. An E11 SM could transfer to Nu7 and only be demoted to SSGT, a *far* less impactful demotion than something like a Maintenance Manager transferring to Research and being demoted to a Research Supervisor. The former would take you 2-3 weeks to get back to your original rank, the latter would take 2 months at the minimum. If you're being burned out trying to get command, you're either pushing yourself far too hard or just burn out exceedingly easily. Transferring is not a light transaction, certainly not light enough to be accessible to NCO's. Transferring should take effort. It should stay with command. Current: Former: | RRH Sierra 47 | | E11 LCPL | | MJ | | AR | | Gensec SM | | CI SFC | | CI IA | | M | | Nu7 DHFE Lieutenant Colonel | | HTF A4 Z Viper A4 | | AH1Z Viper | SCP-RP: | Former staff: 6/18/21 -> 11/18/21| | Staff 2x 2/26/22 -> 10/28/22 | | Joined: Apr, 2021~ | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_ Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 39 minutes ago, Loaff said: -support 0 disadvantages is far from correct. There is a reason it's only command that can transfer, and why it's a minimum 2 rank demotion to the transfer branch. Prior to the creation of these transfer rules, branch hopping was a common issue on the server. Speaking of 2 rank demotions: this segment of the transfer rules are specifically suited to command, as a 2 rank demotion is far greater in scope in command than it is in enlisted. An E11 SM could transfer to Nu7 and only be demoted to SSGT, a *far* less impactful demotion than something like a Maintenance Manager transferring to Research and being demoted to a Research Supervisor. The former would take you 2-3 weeks to get back to your original rank, the latter would take 2 months at the minimum. If you're being burned out trying to get command, you're either pushing yourself far too hard or just burn out exceedingly easily. Transferring is not a light transaction, certainly not light enough to be accessible to NCO's. Transferring should take effort. It should stay with command. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K I W I Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 -Support Player should have to earn their spot to be even considered to just straight up transfer to another branch, the reason it's at command is because you've shown competency and knowledge on other branches and experience on the server in general. | EX CI General | | Ex Lead Admin | | The best Fruit to exist | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pills Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, K I W I said: -Support Player should have to earn their spot to be even considered to just straight up transfer to another branch, the reason it's at command is because you've shown competency and knowledge on other branches and experience on the server in general. This also lot more work for HCMD Former: 𝐒𝐢𝐭𝐞 𝐃𝐢𝐫𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐨𝐫 - 𝐒𝐢𝐭𝐞 𝐀𝐝𝐦𝐢𝐧𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyClone Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 11 minutes ago, K I W I said: -Support Player should have to earn their spot to be even considered to just straight up transfer to another branch, the reason it's at command is because you've shown competency and knowledge on other branches and experience on the server in general. no thank you lmao Retried: CI LTCMDR CI R&D AIN, E11 CPT, and Research Assistant Manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nydekore Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Loaff said: -support 0 disadvantages is far from correct. There is a reason it's only command that can transfer, and why it's a minimum 2 rank demotion to the transfer branch. Prior to the creation of these transfer rules, branch hopping was a common issue on the server. Speaking of 2 rank demotions: this segment of the transfer rules are specifically suited to command, as a 2 rank demotion is far greater in scope in command than it is in enlisted. An E11 SM could transfer to Nu7 and only be demoted to SSGT, a *far* less impactful demotion than something like a Maintenance Manager transferring to Research and being demoted to a Research Supervisor. The former would take you 2-3 weeks to get back to your original rank, the latter would take 2 months at the minimum. If you're being burned out trying to get command, you're either pushing yourself far too hard or just burn out exceedingly easily. Transferring is not a light transaction, certainly not light enough to be accessible to NCO's. Transferring should take effort. It should stay with command. Former: Deputy Head of Research | MTF Nu-7 Captain x2 | SCPRP Super Admin | MTF O-1 Major Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyara Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Loaff said: -support 0 disadvantages is far from correct. There is a reason it's only command that can transfer, and why it's a minimum 2 rank demotion to the transfer branch. Prior to the creation of these transfer rules, branch hopping was a common issue on the server. Speaking of 2 rank demotions: this segment of the transfer rules are specifically suited to command, as a 2 rank demotion is far greater in scope in command than it is in enlisted. An E11 SM could transfer to Nu7 and only be demoted to SSGT, a *far* less impactful demotion than something like a Maintenance Manager transferring to Research and being demoted to a Research Supervisor. The former would take you 2-3 weeks to get back to your original rank, the latter would take 2 months at the minimum. If you're being burned out trying to get command, you're either pushing yourself far too hard or just burn out exceedingly easily. Transferring is not a light transaction, certainly not light enough to be accessible to NCO's. Transferring should take effort. It should stay with command. Former Nu7 Command Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Loaff said: -support 0 disadvantages is far from correct. There is a reason it's only command that can transfer, and why it's a minimum 2 rank demotion to the transfer branch. Prior to the creation of these transfer rules, branch hopping was a common issue on the server. Speaking of 2 rank demotions: this segment of the transfer rules are specifically suited to command, as a 2 rank demotion is far greater in scope in command than it is in enlisted. An E11 SM could transfer to Nu7 and only be demoted to SSGT, a *far* less impactful demotion than something like a Maintenance Manager transferring to Research and being demoted to a Research Supervisor. The former would take you 2-3 weeks to get back to your original rank, the latter would take 2 months at the minimum. If you're being burned out trying to get command, you're either pushing yourself far too hard or just burn out exceedingly easily. Transferring is not a light transaction, certainly not light enough to be accessible to NCO's. Transferring should take effort. It should stay with command. Based on what Loaff said, it also makes sense that an MTF transferring to another MTF team would not be so heavily penalized since its the same branch and/or field, whereas Maintenance becoming Research are two completely different jobs. Former Security Captain | Former RCF Commander | Former Admin of SCP:RP | King Penguin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Operator Houston Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 - support nco is so easy to get bro Current: CI Military Private, Junior Maintenance Former: Nu-7 DHFTO 2LT, Delta-5 WO, Research Supervisor, RRH Analyst Alpha 19, SCP-RP Event Team Member, SCP-RP Senior Moderator Jetstream Sam Enthusiast | Gloveless Individual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1stSavagerY Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 6 hours ago, Loaff said: -support 0 disadvantages is far from correct. There is a reason it's only command that can transfer, and why it's a minimum 2 rank demotion to the transfer branch. Prior to the creation of these transfer rules, branch hopping was a common issue on the server. Speaking of 2 rank demotions: this segment of the transfer rules are specifically suited to command, as a 2 rank demotion is far greater in scope in command than it is in enlisted. An E11 SM could transfer to Nu7 and only be demoted to SSGT, a *far* less impactful demotion than something like a Maintenance Manager transferring to Research and being demoted to a Research Supervisor. The former would take you 2-3 weeks to get back to your original rank, the latter would take 2 months at the minimum. If you're being burned out trying to get command, you're either pushing yourself far too hard or just burn out exceedingly easily. Transferring is not a light transaction, certainly not light enough to be accessible to NCO's. Transferring should take effort. It should stay with command. Nu-7 COL / SFTO / FE / TRT / BHM / RG / Head SCP-7101 / C0 FM HTF / SF Overseer / Iota-10 ("Damn Feds") / AFK / Solid Snake / SCP-RP Senior Moderator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yato Sensei Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 8 hours ago, Loaff said: -support 0 disadvantages is far from correct. There is a reason it's only command that can transfer, and why it's a minimum 2 rank demotion to the transfer branch. Prior to the creation of these transfer rules, branch hopping was a common issue on the server. Speaking of 2 rank demotions: this segment of the transfer rules are specifically suited to command, as a 2 rank demotion is far greater in scope in command than it is in enlisted. An E11 SM could transfer to Nu7 and only be demoted to SSGT, a *far* less impactful demotion than something like a Maintenance Manager transferring to Research and being demoted to a Research Supervisor. The former would take you 2-3 weeks to get back to your original rank, the latter would take 2 months at the minimum. If you're being burned out trying to get command, you're either pushing yourself far too hard or just burn out exceedingly easily. Transferring is not a light transaction, certainly not light enough to be accessible to NCO's. Transferring should take effort. It should stay with command. If you find another branch interesting, just join it and rank up. Getting up to SM is almost no effort. Joined 09/30/2020Retired 11/12/2022Former Security SFC || Former MTF Omi9 MSGT || Former CI CPT/MAJ || Former Nu7 LTCOL/VCMDR || Former E11 CPL || Former Maintenance Professional || Former D5 CPT || Former Senior Medic || Former Advanced Researcher | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon Dice Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 9 hours ago, Loaff said: -support 0 disadvantages is far from correct. There is a reason it's only command that can transfer, and why it's a minimum 2 rank demotion to the transfer branch. Prior to the creation of these transfer rules, branch hopping was a common issue on the server. Speaking of 2 rank demotions: this segment of the transfer rules are specifically suited to command, as a 2 rank demotion is far greater in scope in command than it is in enlisted. An E11 SM could transfer to Nu7 and only be demoted to SSGT, a *far* less impactful demotion than something like a Maintenance Manager transferring to Research and being demoted to a Research Supervisor. The former would take you 2-3 weeks to get back to your original rank, the latter would take 2 months at the minimum. If you're being burned out trying to get command, you're either pushing yourself far too hard or just burn out exceedingly easily. Transferring is not a light transaction, certainly not light enough to be accessible to NCO's. Transferring should take effort. It should stay with command. Demonically Inspired ..Nu7 CMDR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Weeb Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 15 hours ago, Pills said: This also lot more work for HCMD Just start coding rosters lmfao it's not too hard to do that and when used right can be almost twice as effective then any HCMD. -Support I am almost 100% sure this idea is inspired by CWRP servers or Military servers and the reason they wouldn't work on gaminglight is sort of what @K I W Isaid in GL branches can have lots of different rules that change each branch for better or worse while most of the said servers that employ these kinds of transfer policies tend to have more (global) sets of rules. So yeah putting this in SCP would be a logistical nightmare to say the least. SCP-RP - Former: Moderator/ET, Security SFTO SM, Research Researcher, MTF Alpha-1 Sgt, MTF Alpha-1 "Alpha-6", Noob-7 Cpl, D5 RCT, R&D SIN, T-2 Blackjack, HFR, DHBI and E-11 DoFTO HCE SM | Current: CI Military DHLS SFTO SM Imperial-RP - Former - Moderator, Royal Guard Senior Guard, Shadow Guard Lead, Stormtrooper 2LT, 501st MSG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotched Posted July 5, 2022 Author Share Posted July 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Some Weeb said: I am almost 100% sure this idea is inspired by CWRP servers or Military servers Yes, well it was inspired by Gaminglight ImperialRP servers 1 Current: Nu-7 2LT scotched ZETA, CI MSGT scotched Former: DT PFC CR7, IC DMS SFC 1205 Corr, IQ/Purge MSG/Lord III Lucifer, MC SS PFC Freyja 1170, ST/Shore ENG SCT SFC griff 1277, LCPL Mark 1B57, State Trooper PVT Mark, FBI SA David Martinez IF Squad Lead (CPT) Neeko Ivy, SHG Senior Guard (1LT) Lucifer, BWA Owner Spiral, RIS Unit R scotched, Security MSGT WDXH IJG scotched CI R&D IIN(WO) scotched MTF D5 SRO DDIR SVFTO CPT scotched ZETA/G9 Murmillo Daimyo GM1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PandaInShitpostLand Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Would be something to bring up to SA, and also -support. no The God Gamer of the Shitpost Squadron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chineseman Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 22 hours ago, Loaff said: -support 0 disadvantages is far from correct. There is a reason it's only command that can transfer, and why it's a minimum 2 rank demotion to the transfer branch. Prior to the creation of these transfer rules, branch hopping was a common issue on the server. Speaking of 2 rank demotions: this segment of the transfer rules are specifically suited to command, as a 2 rank demotion is far greater in scope in command than it is in enlisted. An E11 SM could transfer to Nu7 and only be demoted to SSGT, a *far* less impactful demotion than something like a Maintenance Manager transferring to Research and being demoted to a Research Supervisor. The former would take you 2-3 weeks to get back to your original rank, the latter would take 2 months at the minimum. If you're being burned out trying to get command, you're either pushing yourself far too hard or just burn out exceedingly easily. Transferring is not a light transaction, certainly not light enough to be accessible to NCO's. Transferring should take effort. It should stay with command. CURRENT RANKS SCPRP: NoneRetired E-11 COL and EX GENSEC MAJ CHAD WITH GOLDENPAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 23 hours ago, Loaff said: -support 0 disadvantages is far from correct. There is a reason it's only command that can transfer, and why it's a minimum 2 rank demotion to the transfer branch. Prior to the creation of these transfer rules, branch hopping was a common issue on the server. Speaking of 2 rank demotions: this segment of the transfer rules are specifically suited to command, as a 2 rank demotion is far greater in scope in command than it is in enlisted. An E11 SM could transfer to Nu7 and only be demoted to SSGT, a *far* less impactful demotion than something like a Maintenance Manager transferring to Research and being demoted to a Research Supervisor. The former would take you 2-3 weeks to get back to your original rank, the latter would take 2 months at the minimum. If you're being burned out trying to get command, you're either pushing yourself far too hard or just burn out exceedingly easily. Transferring is not a light transaction, certainly not light enough to be accessible to NCO's. Transferring should take effort. It should stay with command. This covers just about everything. Any changes is extremely unlikely to happen even on the Site Admin side of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowPL Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 23 hours ago, Loaff said: -support 0 disadvantages is far from correct. There is a reason it's only command that can transfer, and why it's a minimum 2 rank demotion to the transfer branch. Prior to the creation of these transfer rules, branch hopping was a common issue on the server. Speaking of 2 rank demotions: this segment of the transfer rules are specifically suited to command, as a 2 rank demotion is far greater in scope in command than it is in enlisted. An E11 SM could transfer to Nu7 and only be demoted to SSGT, a *far* less impactful demotion than something like a Maintenance Manager transferring to Research and being demoted to a Research Supervisor. The former would take you 2-3 weeks to get back to your original rank, the latter would take 2 months at the minimum. If you're being burned out trying to get command, you're either pushing yourself far too hard or just burn out exceedingly easily. Transferring is not a light transaction, certainly not light enough to be accessible to NCO's. Transferring should take effort. It should stay with command. SCP-RP | Maintenance Expert | HLPR Bot bT5 | Senior Researcher | Senior Event Team Member Custom Classes | Umbrella Corporation Operative "Pathos" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixx Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 -Support I agree with the people above. Also, I dont want like 50 SGTs msging me to transfer, its a clusterfuck within SA waiting to happen if this goes through. [ SCP RP ] Director of Research & Security || Armored Shield Award Winner || First Head Warden & HOPO || Security Artillery Unit || D-7025 || D-Class High Council || Former Head of Security || Former Admin || Former Event Team Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adams the research one Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 -Soup "Read Lesearcher" Former ranks: Research Administrator + Professor RRH Analyst Zulu 99CCs The Patrol Officer (Owner) Snowmen (Owner) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumpTruck Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 On 7/4/2022 at 11:44 PM, Loaff said: -support 0 disadvantages is far from correct. There is a reason it's only command that can transfer, and why it's a minimum 2 rank demotion to the transfer branch. Prior to the creation of these transfer rules, branch hopping was a common issue on the server. Speaking of 2 rank demotions: this segment of the transfer rules are specifically suited to command, as a 2 rank demotion is far greater in scope in command than it is in enlisted. An E11 SM could transfer to Nu7 and only be demoted to SSGT, a *far* less impactful demotion than something like a Maintenance Manager transferring to Research and being demoted to a Research Supervisor. The former would take you 2-3 weeks to get back to your original rank, the latter would take 2 months at the minimum. If you're being burned out trying to get command, you're either pushing yourself far too hard or just burn out exceedingly easily. Transferring is not a light transaction, certainly not light enough to be accessible to NCO's. Transferring should take effort. It should stay with command. Former RRH Analyst X-ray 39 Former D1 Deimos I Former DDOP of RnD [CC's] Deadshot-Engineer-Snoop Dog-MTF-Alpha-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltable Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Denied. The SCP-RP SMT has decided against adding this suggestion for performance reasons, the benefit to the server, or another unstated reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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