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The not so Ultimate Weapon Change Suggestion - Denied


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What are you suggesting? - Changes to guns and classes of weapons that weren't changed at all. In my Ultimate Weapon Change Suggestion I suggested every category of firearms receive changes. seeing as that's not going through and TTK has gone to a state of not being the worst thing in existence alot of the suggestion has become outdated and irrelevant. I'm here to provide changes to firearms that are still classified as (Using player terms here) Complete and Utter Dogshit

tfa assault rifles

(All damages are direct C menu damage.)
(Decrease recoils are an if possible thing)
tfa_fal + tfa_m14sp
change tfa_m14sp damage to 52. This is a semi auto weapon, it should have power behind it.
add fully auto fire mode to tfa_fal, increase damage to 44.

tfa_scar + tfa_g3a3
Increase magazine capacity to 25

tfa_ak74
Increase damage to 41
Increase stability to 80%

tfa_amd65
Increase damage to 39
Increase stability to 80%

tfa_m16a4_acog, tfa_f2000, tfa_l85
Decrease damage to 35. These weapons have scopes and should lack some power. 

tfa submachine guns

tfa_bizonp19
Change accuracy: 4 - 2

tfa_usc
Increase damage to 42

tfa_mp40
Change accuracy: 4 - 3

tfa_mp5
Change accuracy: 2 - 0

tfa_mp5sd
Change accuracy: 3 - 1
Decrease damage to 38

tfa_ump45
Change accuracy: 3 - 2
Increase damage to 40

tfa_thompson
Increase mobility to 75%
Increase stability to 65%
Increase magazine to 50
Decrease recoil 

tfa_mp7
Decrease firerate to 875
Increase damage to 34
Increase stability to 80%
Decrease Recoil

tfa_mp9
Increase damage to 31

tfa_smgp90
Change accuracy: 3 - 2
Decrease recoil

tfa_sten
Heavily reduce recoil

tfa_tec9
Decrease Recoil (why nerf the tec-9 and keep the uzi the same?)
Increase damage to 32

Quick note for LMGS: I do not like that they are all negevs. they should be suppressive fire weapons not miniguns. I do not have ideas on how to change them however, so its up to coltable

Quick note for pistols: Revolvers need to be looked at, they are very bad, and that goes for every revolver excluding the R8. also please reduce Lugar recoil

TFA CSGO (AKA the slums)

tfa_csgo_ak47 (The worst gun in the game)
Change accuracy: 3 - 2
Increase damage to 43
Increase stability to 65%

tfa_csgo_aug
Increase stability to 75%
Decrease recoil

tfa_csgo_cz75
Increase damage to 35

tfa_csgo_famas
Decrease recoil 
Increase stability to 73%

tfa_csgo_galil
Increase stability to 70%

tfa_csgo_m4a1
Increase damage to 40

tfa_csgo_mp7
Revert back to before its nerf. it was a balanced weapon, just used on a class who should not have had it

tfa_csgo_p90
Change Accuracy: 2 - 1
Increase damage to 33

tfa_csgo_bizon
Increase damage to 31

tfa_csgo_sawedoff
Increase damage to 18x9

tfa_csgo_sg556
Heavily Decrease Spread

tfa_csgo_xm1014
Increase Firerate to 175 RPM
Increase magazine to 8 rounds

tfa sniper rifles
tfa_contender
Increase damage to 135
(when calculating the 0.75 damage, this makes it to about 100 damage to a direct body shot, 200 to the head able to 1 shot 200 hp targets, seeing as this is a 1 shot reload "sniper", and with the fact its hard to hit the head unless the person is standing still[If you are shot you flinch], this seems balanced)

How would this change better the server? - This gives weapons that have no use at all in this boring meta a chance to shine in the spotlight, lowering the damage on the meta AR's will force experimentation, which forms a new meta away from the stale meta we currently have, though they might still be kings the lower damage will hurt them.

Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - Other than taking time from coltable and Jayden, none at all. sure, people might not be happy about it at first but thats how all shifts in balance are. 

Who would this change mostly benefit? - Combatant Branches

Please link any workshop content, screenshots, or anything that you think may be helpful to those who view this suggestion - 

this is the OG suggestion, has some flaws and the sheet is outdated, might update it someday.

Edited by PandaInShitpostLand
small changes, reverted contender changes with reasoning

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8 minutes ago, PandaInShitpostLand said:


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tfa_contender
Increase damage to 135

 

sneaky sneaky 
-support for the contender change 
You'd just be one shot headshotting GenSec enlisted AND lower NCO's absolutely not something a D-Class should be able to do (without help from the armory) 
+support for everything else

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57 minutes ago, PlantBruh said:

sneaky sneaky 
-support for the contender change 
You'd just be one shot headshotting GenSec enlisted AND lower NCO's absolutely not something a D-Class should be able to do (without help from the armory) 
+support for everything else

 

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1 hour ago, PlantBruh said:

sneaky sneaky 
-support for the contender change 
You'd just be one shot headshotting GenSec enlisted AND lower NCO's absolutely not something a D-Class should be able to do (without help from the armory) 
+support for everything else

 

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1 hour ago, PlantBruh said:

sneaky sneaky 
-support for the contender change 
You'd just be one shot headshotting GenSec enlisted AND lower NCO's absolutely not something a D-Class should be able to do (without help from the armory) 
+support for everything else

 

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1 hour ago, PlantBruh said:

sneaky sneaky 
-support for the contender change 
You'd just be one shot headshotting GenSec enlisted AND lower NCO's absolutely not something a D-Class should be able to do (without help from the armory) 
+support for everything else

 

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1 hour ago, PlantBruh said:

sneaky sneaky 
-support for the contender change 
You'd just be one shot headshotting GenSec enlisted AND lower NCO's absolutely not something a D-Class should be able to do (without help from the armory) 
+support for everything else

 

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14 hours ago, PlantBruh said:

sneaky sneaky 
-support for the contender change 
You'd just be one shot headshotting GenSec enlisted AND lower NCO's absolutely not something a D-Class should be able to do (without help from the armory) 

fine fine ill change it

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14 hours ago, PlantBruh said:

sneaky sneaky 
-support for the contender change 
You'd just be one shot headshotting GenSec enlisted AND lower NCO's absolutely not something a D-Class should be able to do (without help from the armory) 
+support for everything else

 

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58 minutes ago, IgnisNuts said:

Tbh, the spread for the weapons that aren't used as often should be decreased a lot. To make them feel like actual guns, and not some ape using an AK.

This, so many guns are never used because they aren’t accurate. Just look at the meta right now the least accurate gun that’s used is the Negev and that thing when you can control recoil is a laser.

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1 hour ago, IgnisNuts said:

Tbh, the spread for the weapons that aren't used as often should be decreased a lot. To make them feel like actual guns, and not some ape using an AK.

its linked to accuracy... mostly

SG552 for example has perfect accuracy but horrid spread

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+Support but feel this should be done slowly to allow for the branch's to update their branches in response to all of the changes. Pretty much every SF & Command job will need to changed in response to this suggestion

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+SUPPORT

Honestly as a gensec main, I think the contender should be buffed, if you are dumb to sit still in d block, you deserve to get one tapped. A one shot sniper should ABSOLUTELY one tap low ranking gensec such as enlisted. 

Edited by wXc GameHunter

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4 hours ago, Cosmic The Italian said:

+Support 

Yes more weapon variety yes sir!

 

Please bro, the meta has been the same for around 10 months....

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On 6/25/2022 at 4:25 PM, wXc GameHunter said:

+SUPPORT

Honestly as a gensec main, I think the contender should be buffed, if you are dumb to sit still in d block, you deserve to get one tapped. A one shot sniper should ABSOLUTELY one tap low ranking gensec such as enlisted. 

Agreed, if Gensec don't want their boys to die then tell them to keep moving and train them a bit better. Besides, as far as I know the Desert Eagle can 2 tap Gensec enlisted if you hit both headshots. Gensec snipers also get the Barret, which can one tap even D-Class CCs with a body shot.

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On 6/25/2022 at 5:25 PM, wXc GameHunter said:

+SUPPORT

Honestly as a gensec main, I think the contender should be buffed, if you are dumb to sit still in d block, you deserve to get one tapped. A one shot sniper should ABSOLUTELY one tap low ranking gensec such as enlisted. 

Based security. Changes reverted with reasoning

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On 6/21/2022 at 2:52 PM, PlantBruh said:

sneaky sneaky 
-support for the contender change 
You'd just be one shot headshotting GenSec enlisted AND lower NCO's absolutely not something a D-Class should be able to do (without help from the armory) 
+support for everything else

 

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On 6/22/2022 at 3:39 AM, Cecil Stedmen said:

+Support but feel this should be done slowly to allow for the branch's to update their branches in response to all of the changes. Pretty much every SF & Command job will need to changed in response to this suggestion

 

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