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Player Report Review- SEC FTO SM ETA10 Guinevere


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Your in game name: CI SGT Buck

Your Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:570251076

The player's in game name: SEC FTO SM ETA10 Guinevere

The player's steam ID (required): STEAM_0:1:175407426

The original staff member's name: Security SVFTO 2LT Tank

Date and Time This Incident Occurred: 6/17/22 roughly 11:30 AM EST

What did the player do: RDM (Killing a cuffed D class) | FailRP (Refusing to escort research for test)

What was the disposition of the sit (no action/verbal warning/formal warning/etc): No action sit was closed because Guinevere told the staff to close it

Why do you think the disposition was inappropriate?: This was blatent RDM and there is nothing in the MOTD or GENSEC SOP that could remotely justify killing a cuffed D class or refusing to escort.

Gensec SOP:  "Do not terminate Class-D Personnel w/o valid reasoning. Valid reasons are as follows, passing KOS lines, having fists out after being warned, having a weapon, committing battery, being on the catwalk ledge, etc. You may NOT terminate D-Class for player diss."

Evidence (required):

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/oO6qKBy8iQX19/d1337xVDMCb0?invite=cr-MSxvVWcsNDMwMjA5NTgs

Any extra information:

Within the sit his reasoning was because he "Was giving weapons to security as a quartermaster and that was his job" He also said he could not give orders to security because there was a SFC in D block (Whom he outranks) despite having his name set to his security name. I was advised by another staff member to make this report as well.

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25 minutes ago, ATLAS2130 said:

this isn't a high command  problem this more of senior command problem fizzy
+support

also RDM is more of a staff issue than a branch issue. security command should be aware of this as well though.

+ support

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2 hours ago, Caroline said:

also RDM is more of a staff issue than a branch issue. security command should be aware of this as well though.

+ support

 

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-Support

RDM | It’s not RDM, he didn’t have an escort and therefore his dclass should be terminated and him likely arrested. It’s expected that research get escorts BEFORE dclass

FailRP | Security can refuse researchers escorts

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2 hours ago, Nydekore said:

-Support

RDM | It’s not RDM, he didn’t have an escort and therefore his dclass should be terminated and him likely arrested. It’s expected that research get escorts BEFORE dclass

FailRP | Security can refuse researchers escorts

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1 hour ago, Nydekore said:

-Support

RDM | It’s not RDM, he didn’t have an escort and therefore his dclass should be terminated and him likely arrested. It’s expected that research get escorts BEFORE dclass

FailRP | Security can refuse researchers escorts

 

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1 hour ago, Nydekore said:

-Support

RDM | It’s not RDM, he didn’t have an escort and therefore his dclass should be terminated and him likely arrested. It’s expected that research get escorts BEFORE dclass

FailRP | Security can refuse researchers escorts

 

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-support 
Clearly not a RDM situation since the researcher just walk and grab the d class which obuisly not the job for them its the job for security .
The player who was using maynard or every researcher should know and ask for a d class and the security NCO or CMD ATM will be looking at the amount of d class and the security will decide if he can do the test or no. Reason by allowing 1 security to escort may remove a partial force that can help to defend d block to prevent d class to escape since thats the job in security which best case ever you should either ask MTF, RIS and RIG for that purpose and researchers need to know and i belive they should analize the area by looking how many security personnel are guarding d block and they should know that they cant provide escort if they are understaff.
Security can kill every d class taken by researcher with out a escort and leave d block so yeah thats the basic thing.
 

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2 hours ago, Nydekore said:

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RDM | It’s not RDM, he didn’t have an escort and therefore his dclass should be terminated and him likely arrested. It’s expected that research get escorts BEFORE dclass

FailRP | Security can refuse researchers escorts

If these the rules then yeah

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10 hours ago, Nydekore said:

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RDM | It’s not RDM, he didn’t have an escort and therefore his dclass should be terminated and him likely arrested. It’s expected that research get escorts BEFORE dclass

FailRP | Security can refuse researchers escorts

-Support
It doesn't say this in the MOTD under security/research section for some reason but the general consensus for GENSEC and MTF is that if a researcher has a D-Class with no escort then the D-Class is KOS, unless this is incorrect and just a wide spread false understanding. HOWEVER it is metagame to refuse Dr. Maynard a escort just because they're Dr. Maynard. A reason should be stated for why Gensec/MTF is refusing to escort a researcher, in the clip it's Code Black so the MTF has reason other than the one stated but he's not really in a position to handle Securities job if he's on a MTF job

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