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Your In-game: CI SGT Buck

 

Your SteamID: STEAM_0:1:570251076

 

The admin's name in-game: Security SVFTO 2LT Tank

 

The admin's steam name (If you know it): Tank [GL]

 

What did the admin do: Staff Bias | Staff mismanagement

 

Evidence of the abusive action(s) (REQUIRED):

In this clip I was tabbed out to quote the GENSEC SOP which stated valid reasons to kill a D class which is why at the start it says gameplay not visible

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/oOdIDHephMIpD/d1337VLGeV5W?invite=cr-MSw4ZHYsNDMwMjA5NTgs

this was the clip that the sit was about: 

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/oO6qKBy8iQX19/d1337IJHizRG?invite=cr-MSxVcVksNDMwMjA5NTgs

clip of tank saying that this was ok and ignoring the SM pretty much calling me slow:

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/oO99B261jypHy/d1337OyHPQFa?invite=cr-MSxsbkssNDMwMjA5NTgs

 

What do you believe should happen to the admin:

Staff strike/Demotion or whatever SMT see fit

 

Any extra information: I called a sit on a security SM who was refusing to escort a researcher for a test and then proceeded to kill me whilst I was cuffed by said researcher. Tank then took the sit whilst other staff members were active. this is concerning to me as tank is a 2LT in security taking a sit about an SM in security. On top of this the security SM was telling tank to just close the sit as it was pointless to which tank obliged and closed the sit.

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Alright so, since Maynard just took you and tried to walk away no escort that means security can kill you? To my knowledge at least, but lets look past that for a sec. The SM straight up called you slow and Tank didnt care, he just closed the sit since the accuser asked and didnt even care if you had anything else to say. Not just that, but there were some numerous times where i was sitting in D-block intersection then some Sec OFC-LCPL would ask me if Dr bright could kill them if they escort him. I said no, of course, and asked if it happened. Most just said yes and that Tank said it was ok. I personally dont have a clip of him doing it besides people straight up telling me he does it

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16 minutes ago, FeaR x Green Pikachu said:

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Alright so, since Maynard just took you and tried to walk away no escort that means security can kill you? To my knowledge at least, but lets look past that for a sec. The SM straight up called you slow and Tank didnt care, he just closed the sit since the accuser asked and didnt even care if you had anything else to say. Not just that, but there were some numerous times where i was sitting in D-block intersection then some Sec OFC-LCPL would ask me if Dr bright could kill them if they escort him. I said no, of course, and asked if it happened. Most just said yes and that Tank said it was ok. I personally dont have a clip of him doing it besides people straight up telling me he does it

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51 minutes ago, FeaR x Green Pikachu said:

since Maynard just took you and tried to walk away no escort that means security can kill you

This is the assumption we work under with security and Maynard should be treated no different than other research staff. 

Cannot view evidence currently but wanted to make that clear

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1 hour ago, FeaR x Green Pikachu said:

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Alright so, since Maynard just took you and tried to walk away no escort that means security can kill you? To my knowledge at least, but lets look past that for a sec. The SM straight up called you slow and Tank didnt care, he just closed the sit since the accuser asked and didnt even care if you had anything else to say. Not just that, but there were some numerous times where i was sitting in D-block intersection then some Sec OFC-LCPL would ask me if Dr bright could kill them if they escort him. I said no, of course, and asked if it happened. Most just said yes and that Tank said it was ok. I personally dont have a clip of him doing it besides people straight up telling me he does it

 

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2 hours ago, FeaR x Green Pikachu said:

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Alright so, since Maynard just took you and tried to walk away no escort that means security can kill you? To my knowledge at least, but lets look past that for a sec. The SM straight up called you slow and Tank didnt care, he just closed the sit since the accuser asked and didnt even care if you had anything else to say. Not just that, but there were some numerous times where i was sitting in D-block intersection then some Sec OFC-LCPL would ask me if Dr bright could kill them if they escort him. I said no, of course, and asked if it happened. Most just said yes and that Tank said it was ok. I personally dont have a clip of him doing it besides people straight up telling me he does it

 

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3 hours ago, FeaR x Green Pikachu said:

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Alright so, since Maynard just took you and tried to walk away no escort that means security can kill you? To my knowledge at least, but lets look past that for a sec. The SM straight up called you slow and Tank didnt care, he just closed the sit since the accuser asked and didnt even care if you had anything else to say. Not just that, but there were some numerous times where i was sitting in D-block intersection then some Sec OFC-LCPL would ask me if Dr bright could kill them if they escort him. I said no, of course, and asked if it happened. Most just said yes and that Tank said it was ok. I personally dont have a clip of him doing it besides people straight up telling me he does it

 

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Sit should have been handled by a different staff to avoid branch bias.

You don't just close a sit on somebody while he's trying to state his point.

 

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5 hours ago, FeaR x Green Pikachu said:

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Alright so, since Maynard just took you and tried to walk away no escort that means security can kill you? To my knowledge at least, but lets look past that for a sec. The SM straight up called you slow and Tank didnt care, he just closed the sit since the accuser asked and didnt even care if you had anything else to say. Not just that, but there were some numerous times where i was sitting in D-block intersection then some Sec OFC-LCPL would ask me if Dr bright could kill them if they escort him. I said no, of course, and asked if it happened. Most just said yes and that Tank said it was ok. I personally dont have a clip of him doing it besides people straight up telling me he does it

 

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5 hours ago, FeaR x Green Pikachu said:

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Alright so, since Maynard just took you and tried to walk away no escort that means security can kill you? To my knowledge at least, but lets look past that for a sec. The SM straight up called you slow and Tank didnt care, he just closed the sit since the accuser asked and didnt even care if you had anything else to say. Not just that, but there were some numerous times where i was sitting in D-block intersection then some Sec OFC-LCPL would ask me if Dr bright could kill them if they escort him. I said no, of course, and asked if it happened. Most just said yes and that Tank said it was ok. I personally dont have a clip of him doing it besides people straight up telling me he does it

 

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6 hours ago, FeaR x Green Pikachu said:

+Support

Alright so, since Maynard just took you and tried to walk away no escort that means security can kill you? To my knowledge at least, but lets look past that for a sec. The SM straight up called you slow and Tank didnt care, he just closed the sit since the accuser asked and didnt even care if you had anything else to say. Not just that, but there were some numerous times where i was sitting in D-block intersection then some Sec OFC-LCPL would ask me if Dr bright could kill them if they escort him. I said no, of course, and asked if it happened. Most just said yes and that Tank said it was ok. I personally dont have a clip of him doing it besides people straight up telling me he does it

 

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38 minutes ago, Cosmic The Italian said:

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Sit should have been handled by a different staff to avoid branch bias.

You don't just close a sit on somebody while he's trying to state his point.

 

 

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46 minutes ago, Cosmic The Italian said:

Sit should have been handled by a different staff to avoid branch bias.

You don't just close a sit on somebody while he's trying to state his point.

This ^

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48 minutes ago, Cosmic The Italian said:

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Sit should have been handled by a different staff to avoid branch bias.

You don't just close a sit on somebody while he's trying to state his point.

 

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FROM A SECURITY POINT OF VIEW this was handled correctly. When researches (including Bright + Maynard) take a D-Class without an escort, the D-Class becomes KOS. Even if the Security is refusing to escort for some reason they can still KOS a D-Class (If there are no riots and plenty of Security than they should not refuse to escort).

From a staff point of view (which I have never been staff on this server but plenty others) I would understand why you would want someone from another branch to handle it. That much makes sense and I have no issue with. 

HOWEVER, I think that the sit was a case of being uneducated on how security operates and once the clip is seen there is not much else to do. The comment from the SM in the clip (when he says something like this guy will take a while to be explained too) is implying they have some cognitive issues. I think that would not exactly count as player diss since you can argue he didn't mean that but I digress.

Overall, this sit was not the greatest but it was also not incorrect. I think tank COULD have given the sit to someone else of another branch, COULD have let the person who called the sit more time, or COULD have talked to the person who made the unneeded comment, but didn't have too. 
I would say that this sit was not in a state where you can say "Tank did this wrong" but also not in a state where "Tank did this good".

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7 hours ago, Cosmic The Italian said:

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Sit should have been handled by a different staff to avoid branch bias.

You don't just close a sit on somebody while he's trying to state his point.

 

 

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8 hours ago, Cosmic The Italian said:

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Sit should have been handled by a different staff to avoid branch bias.

You don't just close a sit on somebody while he's trying to state his point.

 

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Tanks not a bad guy n probably didn't mean any ill intentions, but this was handled poorly for reasons stated by cosmic

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Ok so my two pennies

Security are allowed to terminate D Class if a Researcher leaves D Block without a escort regardless of Level Clearance the security that killed the D Class did state that he had to kill him as the Researcher refused to have escort as Researchers must have an escort for testing purposes and for re-containment purposes as FTO on GENSEC state this during training sessions and I will be honest with the personnel stating that it would "take a long time to explain" I feel can be deemed as player diss as that is assuming that someone will not understand straight away coming to a conclusion that someone is "dumb" and also several Security stated that the Researcher needed an escort no matter what so I give -/+ this is only because the clips do not explain everything yes it shows that you were killed but the Researcher was told my 5+ Security that they needed an escort yet refused

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FROM A SECURITY POINT OF VIEW this was handled correctly. When researches (including Bright + Maynard) take a D-Class without an escort, the D-Class becomes KOS. Even if the Security is refusing to escort for some reason they can still KOS a D-Class (If there are no riots and plenty of Security than they should not refuse to escort).

I see what are talk about me. I try to tell you on Security. Security refusing to escort to Dr. Maynard. and  Dr. Maynard cuff you leave the D-block you be KOS this is why I try to tell you. I got feeling on you it see like don't care about Security. I talk him it see like he got mad on you, he go AFK and he cool off. If you be Security before or not.

on Staff: I take sit try to see what going on you set clip on Security SM kill you getting taking away from Dr. Maynard you tell me it RDM FailRP and Player diss
1. it not RDM if he got reason
2. it not FailRP Dr. Maynard take you somewhere without an escort you be KOS on cuff
3. I'm not sure it not Player diss I not hear what he say
4. my 10 mins is up I can't hold for 10 mins I need get thing shit done

 

I know he tell close sit because my 10 mins is up. and I know your state to point

try be know on Security they refusing to escort to researches 

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In my personal opinion, the killing was absolutely unnecessary and the D-Class should've just been taken back to D-Block, and Maynard should've been detained if they were refusing to give up the D-Class. You were cuffed, and therefore under escort by a Level 3 Researcher, which shouldn't make you KOS, just because you crossed the line (While under escort). I do not think Tank should've closed the ticket, and he started to side with the Security more towards the end, being more biased towards the person's favor rather than their own and looking at the situation from an external viewpoint. This was not okay.

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19 hours ago, Cosmic The Italian said:

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Sit should have been handled by a different staff to avoid branch bias.

You don't just close a sit on somebody while he's trying to state his point.

 

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Okay, I'm looking at this and there's a few things I have to say:

1. I just want to get this out of the way, "player diss"? Seriously? The guy did not call anyone slow, he stated that he "could tell it will take awhile to explain" which has multiple possible meanings. The fact that your INSTANT reaction is to go "player diss?" like it's some sort of weapon is a problem right there.

2. Regarding the closing of the sit, it sounds like this was handled and was at the 10 minute mark. At some point, the staff member has to determine when to close the sit, regardless on if someone is still arguing. Heck, the MOTD even says the verdict is final and a verdict was made.

3. This report is made for "Staff Bias | Staff mismanagement", yet nothing is shown in favor of those points. I see no mismanagement and definitely no bias. Any staff member should have come to the exact same conclusion as Tank. Buck, you've been part of this server for long enough to know that D-Class get terminated if non-MTF/non-GenSec try to take them without an escort.

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7 hours ago, Piller said:

Okay, I'm looking at this and there's a few things I have to say:

1. I just want to get this out of the way, "player diss"? Seriously? The guy did not call anyone slow, he stated that he "could tell it will take awhile to explain" which has multiple possible meanings. The fact that your INSTANT reaction is to go "player diss?" like it's some sort of weapon is a problem right there.

2. Regarding the closing of the sit, it sounds like this was handled and was at the 10 minute mark. At some point, the staff member has to determine when to close the sit, regardless on if someone is still arguing. Heck, the MOTD even says the verdict is final and a verdict was made.

3. This report is made for "Staff Bias | Staff mismanagement", yet nothing is shown in favor of those points. I see no mismanagement and definitely no bias. Any staff member should have come to the exact same conclusion as Tank. Buck, you've been part of this server for long enough to know that D-Class get terminated if non-MTF/non-GenSec try to take them without an escort.

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