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General Suggestion: How to make RP more prominent and fix how boring D-Block is for both GENSEC and D-Class.

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Ok, firstly let's identify the problem I am trying to fix. The first issue is how RP seems to be being pushed to the back burner over combat centric game play. The second issue is D-Block being incredibly boring for all parties. Now that we’ve covered the issues let's look at the possible solutions.

Problem 1, RP is the essence of the server and it should stay that way, but it seems that RP has been put aside for combat which is ok but RP is the main part of the server and needs to be prioritized. RP can be implemented in many ways for all classes, especially RP focused jobs/roles like researchers and medics. But many have said these jobs feel more like 2nd jobs rather than ways to relax after work. So we can use RP to make these jobs more fun. Like with medics we can add in a expanded medical procedure list and how to perform these procedures in game and encourage medics to set up and actually take patents like injured GENSEC, MTF or even D-Class allowing for both parties to RP going through a long healing process such as surgery for a broken bone or removing a bullet. This can be done in a fashion of having a surgeon as a new white list/job or having it be external training that people can volunteer for in a similar fashion to CCU. This could make Medic more enticing for new players or bring new enjoyment for existing medics along with bringing more multi-group interaction.

Problem 1 Part 2. RP can also be used to better expand other groups, even combat groups too. Research could get access to more RP scenarios such as allowing for researchers to directly communicate with sentient SCPs or having more ways for SCPs to have non hostile interactions with D-Class and researchers to allow for more expansive or complex tests. There could even be special ways for GENSEC and MTF to act/help during these tests maybe even a special Sub-Branches or trainings for GENSEC that directly assist research with special tests such as a tech security specialist for 079 tests or a explosives expert to test how some SCPs interact with explosives. Similar white lists or training can be given to MTF too. These could also be applied for CI. Speaking of CI they could also get some RnD white lists that would maybe work with the foundation even when its not ragnarok to allow for them to get more time to do research rather than waiting for the military to steal them. Something similar could be allied to CI military like allowing for both foundation and CI guards to work co-op for patrolling the surface. Or even the joint CI RnD and Foundation Research team could be guarded by a special group of CI military and Foundation Guard that specialize in working with one another for these missions.

Problem 2. D-Block is the focal point for many of the server's interactions, especially for new players that are just joining for the first time. Currently D-Block is simultaneously the most important and boring place in the map but it doesn't have to be that way. We can change it with RP interactions between D-Class and GENSEC or even just side activities for both groups to do while waiting for something else to do. This could be as simple as adding a small arcade in upper D-Block or even a small basketball court for GENSEC Vs. D-Class games. Or even some actual RP between the 2 groups like D-Class trying to steal from GENSEC or some way for GENSEC to arrest D-Class rather than just killing them out right, like there's a few cells in upper D-Block why not make a way for them to be used. Maybe even add some passive RP interactions between D-Class and GENSEC such as ways for them to work together in scenarios where both groups are heavily threatened like a Sarkic raid or a mass SCP breach. More importantly for D-Class the things they can do needs to be better presented to them for example I was on the server for almost a week before I knew there was a way to mine ores to craft guns as a D-Class or how many D-Class don't know a lot of the rules of D-Block the number of times I've had to explain basic rules to D-Class is far too high to be ignored. However this issue could really only be fixed by updating the posters in lower D-Block or adding a pop up menu asking if players want a tutorial/list of things they can do on the server.

To conclude, RP seems to have taken a pause for combat but can be fixed by adding more unique ways for players to PR among all roles. Plus the boring nature of D-Block can be fixed by adding more ways for D-Class and GENSEC to interact with one another. A final suggestion would be to give a XP or Money reward for performing special RP actions such as the suggested surgery or tag team operations. Thank you for reading this and I hope this helps the server grow to be a fun and enjoyable place for both the committed and passive players on the server.

This could better the server by bringing new life to many RP only/Non combatant branches that might be fading due to the lack of new things to do and support more creativity for tests.

The only disadvantages I could see is struggles with implementing it in to the server and people not accepting it into the server.

All groups would be able to benefit from this heavily.

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Follow the format 🤓

anyways I completely agree with the whole concept

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  • spikedragonborn changed the title to General Suggestion: How to make RP more prominent and fix how boring D-Block is for both GENSEC and D-Class.
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Follow the format 🤓

anyways I completely agree with the whole concept

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Fixed thanks for letting me know there was a format in the first place.

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1 hour ago, spikedragonborn said:

This can be done in a fashion of having a surgeon as a new white list/job or having it be external training that people can volunteer for in a similar fashion to CCU

Both of these have been attempted before. First with the Surgeon job, which was necessary to heal people at low health but was dead as shit. Then voluntarily with anyone being able to do it, which ended with no one doing it. 

1 hour ago, spikedragonborn said:

Like with medics we can add in a expanded medical procedure list and how to perform these procedures in game and encourage medics to set up and actually take patents like injured GENSEC, MTF or even D-Class allowing for both parties to RP going through a long healing process such as surgery for a broken bone or removing a bullet

This seems nice and all. But with how fast paced the server is, no one wants to go through a 3 min surgery. 

1 hour ago, spikedragonborn said:

There could even be special ways for GENSEC and MTF to act/help during these tests maybe even a special Sub-Branches or trainings for GENSEC that directly assist research with special tests such as a tech security specialist for 079 tests or a explosives expert to test how some SCPs interact with explosives

"Tech Security Specialist" just sounds like a Security job that takes Maintenance's job. There are explosive jobs on the server, they just aren't used all that often. 

1 hour ago, spikedragonborn said:

Speaking of CI they could also get some RnD white lists that would maybe work with the foundation even when its not ragnarok to allow for them to get more time to do research rather than waiting for the military to steal them

This is literally what a cross-pt is. And the point of CI is to go against the Foundation, not work with them. 

1 hour ago, spikedragonborn said:

Or even some actual RP between the 2 groups like D-Class trying to steal from GENSEC or some way for GENSEC to arrest D-Class rather than just killing them out right, like there's a few cells in upper D-Block why not make a way for them to be used

A kind of event that D-Class could to that steals Gensec's weaponry was attempted to be implemented before, but was denied by SMT due to complexity. Gensec can arrest D-Class, especially for things like hands-up or crossing the line, but Gensec usually cannot cross the fence without being simultaneously stabbed, beat, and shot by D-Class. 

1 hour ago, spikedragonborn said:

add some passive RP interactions between D-Class and GENSEC such as ways for them to work together in scenarios where both groups are heavily threatened like a Sarkic raid or a mass SCP breach

Like I said before, most D-Class would much rather take advantage of the scenario to cause more chaos or to just escape. They have no reason to want to help the Foundation. 

 

I will say, I love your passion for wanting more RP on the server, I do too. But the sad truth is that combat sells better and promotes growth better, not RP.

So sure, take my +Support. But most of this has been attempted before and failed. 

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1 hour ago, spikedragonborn said:

Problem 1, RP is the essence of the server and it should stay that way, but it seems that RP has been put aside for combat which is ok but RP is the main part of the server and needs to be prioritized. RP can be implemented in many ways for all classes, especially RP focused jobs/roles like researchers and medics. But many have said these jobs feel more like 2nd jobs rather than ways to relax after work. So we can use RP to make these jobs more fun. Like with medics we can add in a expanded medical procedure list and how to perform these procedures in game and encourage medics to set up and actually take patents like injured GENSEC, MTF or even D-Class allowing for both parties to RP going through a long healing process such as surgery for a broken bone or removing a bullet. This can be done in a fashion of having a surgeon as a new white list/job or having it be external training that people can volunteer for in a similar fashion to CCU. This could make Medic more enticing for new players or bring new enjoyment for existing medics along with bringing more multi-group interaction.

Problem 1 Part 2. RP can also be used to better expand other groups, even combat groups too. Research could get access to more RP scenarios such as allowing for researchers to directly communicate with sentient SCPs or having more ways for SCPs to have non hostile interactions with D-Class and researchers to allow for more expansive or complex tests. There could even be special ways for GENSEC and MTF to act/help during these tests maybe even a special Sub-Branches or trainings for GENSEC that directly assist research with special tests such as a tech security specialist for 079 tests or a explosives expert to test how some SCPs interact with explosives. Similar white lists or training can be given to MTF too. These could also be applied for CI. Speaking of CI they could also get some RnD white lists that would maybe work with the foundation even when its not ragnarok to allow for them to get more time to do research rather than waiting for the military to steal them. Something similar could be allied to CI military like allowing for both foundation and CI guards to work co-op for patrolling the surface. Or even the joint CI RnD and Foundation Research team could be guarded by a special group of CI military and Foundation Guard that specialize in working with one another for these missions.

Omg how has nobody eveR thought of this.

I mean doesn't hurt to try but has been suggested countless times.

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12 minutes ago, Cosmic The Italian said:

Omg how has nobody eveR thought of this.

I mean doesn't hurt to try but has been suggested countless times.

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55 minutes ago, Right Twix Bar said:

Both of these have been attempted before. First with the Surgeon job, which was necessary to heal people at low health but was dead as shit. Then voluntarily with anyone being able to do it, which ended with no one doing it. 

This seems nice and all. But with how fast paced the server is, no one wants to go through a 3 min surgery. 

"Tech Security Specialist" just sounds like a Security job that takes Maintenance's job. There are explosive jobs on the server, they just aren't used all that often. 

This is literally what a cross-pt is. And the point of CI is to go against the Foundation, not work with them. 

A kind of event that D-Class could to that steals Gensec's weaponry was attempted to be implemented before, but was denied by SMT due to complexity. Gensec can arrest D-Class, especially for things like hands-up or crossing the line, but Gensec usually cannot cross the fence without being simultaneously stabbed, beat, and shot by D-Class. 

Like I said before, most D-Class would much rather take advantage of the scenario to cause more chaos or to just escape. They have no reason to want to help the Foundation. 

 

I will say, I love your passion for wanting more RP on the server, I do too. But the sad truth is that combat sells better and promotes growth better, not RP.

So sure, take my +Support. But most of this has been attempted before and failed. 

 

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1 hour ago, Right Twix Bar said:

Both of these have been attempted before. First with the Surgeon job, which was necessary to heal people at low health but was dead as shit. Then voluntarily with anyone being able to do it, which ended with no one doing it. 

This seems nice and all. But with how fast paced the server is, no one wants to go through a 3 min surgery. 

"Tech Security Specialist" just sounds like a Security job that takes Maintenance's job. There are explosive jobs on the server, they just aren't used all that often. 

This is literally what a cross-pt is. And the point of CI is to go against the Foundation, not work with them. 

A kind of event that D-Class could to that steals Gensec's weaponry was attempted to be implemented before, but was denied by SMT due to complexity. Gensec can arrest D-Class, especially for things like hands-up or crossing the line, but Gensec usually cannot cross the fence without being simultaneously stabbed, beat, and shot by D-Class. 

Like I said before, most D-Class would much rather take advantage of the scenario to cause more chaos or to just escape. They have no reason to want to help the Foundation. 

 

I will say, I love your passion for wanting more RP on the server, I do too. But the sad truth is that combat sells better and promotes growth better, not RP.

So sure, take my +Support. But most of this has been attempted before and failed. 

Agree with Twix here 100%. You will almost never find a D class that's willing to RP. Most will just instantly attack you once you cross the line. If you want all this RP to happen, you will need the entire server to cooperate, which is pretty much impossible. 

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for RP and people who do it, but people that go against it ruin it almost in an instant

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1 hour ago, Yato Sensei said:

Agree with Twix here 100%. You will almost never find a D class that's willing to RP. Most will just instantly attack you once you cross the line. If you want all this RP to happen, you will need the entire server to cooperate, which is pretty much impossible. 

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for RP and people who do it, but people that go against it ruin it almost in an instant

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5 hours ago, Yato Sensei said:

Agree with Twix here 100%. You will almost never find a D class that's willing to RP. Most will just instantly attack you once you cross the line. If you want all this RP to happen, you will need the entire server to cooperate, which is pretty much impossible. 

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for RP and people who do it, but people that go against it ruin it almost in an instant

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19 hours ago, Yato Sensei said:

Agree with Twix here 100%. You will almost never find a D class that's willing to RP. Most will just instantly attack you once you cross the line. If you want all this RP to happen, you will need the entire server to cooperate, which is pretty much impossible. 

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for RP and people who do it, but people that go against it ruin it almost in an instant

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if D-Block had a redesign to allow gensec to arrest d-bois without them either getting stabbed or having the d-class instantly run out of d-block, it could be done

(where have i seen this before?)

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20 hours ago, Right Twix Bar said:

Both of these have been attempted before. First with the Surgeon job, which was necessary to heal people at low health but was dead as shit. Then voluntarily with anyone being able to do it, which ended with no one doing it. 

This seems nice and all. But with how fast paced the server is, no one wants to go through a 3 min surgery. 

"Tech Security Specialist" just sounds like a Security job that takes Maintenance's job. There are explosive jobs on the server, they just aren't used all that often. 

This is literally what a cross-pt is. And the point of CI is to go against the Foundation, not work with them. 

A kind of event that D-Class could to that steals Gensec's weaponry was attempted to be implemented before, but was denied by SMT due to complexity. Gensec can arrest D-Class, especially for things like hands-up or crossing the line, but Gensec usually cannot cross the fence without being simultaneously stabbed, beat, and shot by D-Class. 

Like I said before, most D-Class would much rather take advantage of the scenario to cause more chaos or to just escape. They have no reason to want to help the Foundation. 

 

I will say, I love your passion for wanting more RP on the server, I do too. But the sad truth is that combat sells better and promotes growth better, not RP.

So sure, take my +Support. But most of this has been attempted before and failed. 

 

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20 hours ago, Yato Sensei said:

If you want all this RP to happen, you will need the entire server to cooperate, which is pretty much impossible. 

I would honestly love to have this server be more serious RP focus over its semi serious (basically TDM) that it is right now. 

I'm afraid there's only so much we SMT can do from our stand point as if the players such as Dclass just want to murder and kill people then we are of course going to "cater" to that audience, I think alot of ppl can admit that the wider majority of the server wants the combat on the server and id actually say its the one thing we have over most other SCP RP servers. I can only go "encouraging" a change within RP in Dblock if I have the support of Dclass/CC's, But another issue i find is also a lack of researching. Ive personally sat in Dblock before begging to be tested on waiting long periods of time to be tested on. No new player is going to want to do this especially if they see Dclass CC's running around killing security, they will just want to join in on the fun.

All in all its hard to implement Roleplay into Dblock unless the players themselves push for it, One change that I can think of to help with the "push" would be removing the big red line and forcing more of a prison style line up.

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30 minutes ago, Coltable said:

I would honestly love to have this server be more serious RP focus over its semi serious (basically TDM) that it is right now. 

I'm afraid there's only so much we SMT can do from our stand point as if the players such as Dclass just want to murder and kill people then we are of course going to "cater" to that audience, I think alot of ppl can admit that the wider majority of the server wants the combat on the server and id actually say its the one thing we have over most other SCP RP servers. I can only go "encouraging" a change within RP in Dblock if I have the support of Dclass/CC's, But another issue i find is also a lack of researching. Ive personally sat in Dblock before begging to be tested on waiting long periods of time to be tested on. No new player is going to want to do this especially if they see Dclass CC's running around killing security, they will just want to join in on the fun.

All in all its hard to implement Roleplay into Dblock unless the players themselves push for it, One change that I can think of to help with the "push" would be removing the big red line and forcing more of a prison style line up.

What about the potential of making it harder for d-class to truly riot, such as a making it tougher to riot with superior weapons for GENSEC? Or perhaps make it where theres more inherent visual rewards for players to join Foundation jobs. Perhaps nerfing d-class or the donator weapons they can recieve. It shouldn't be easy for D-class to break out realistically in the SCP universe.

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6 minutes ago, _Alpha_ said:

What about the potential of making it harder for d-class to truly riot, such as a making it tougher to riot with superior weapons for GENSEC? Or perhaps make it where theres more inherent visual rewards for players to join Foundation jobs. Perhaps nerfing d-class or the donator weapons they can recieve. It shouldn't be easy for D-class to break out realistically in the SCP universe.

So if your talking in regards to just nerfs on weapons etc then sure totally possible but again a suggestion would help narrow down what weapons should be targeted. In regards to donator weapons that a whole separate topic bc now were removing items players paid for/restricting access to a service they might of bought it for such as lets say golf club on dclass.

Then environment a induvial is presented in is normally what decides how they act within their day to day. If it is see as "normal" for dclass to be rioting 24/7 then they will bc again theirs no consequences and its not seen as something rare or special.

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8 hours ago, _Alpha_ said:

What about the potential of making it harder for d-class to truly riot, such as a making it tougher to riot with superior weapons for GENSEC? Or perhaps make it where theres more inherent visual rewards for players to join Foundation jobs. Perhaps nerfing d-class or the donator weapons they can recieve. It shouldn't be easy for D-class to break out realistically in the SCP universe.

Nerfing dclass won't bring rp back. There needs to be new mechanics and a shit ton of other things, nerfing dclass *again* would only worsen the balance.

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As a person who mostly plays on D-class, the RP just isnt fun for us

our entire thing is just getting cuffed, dragged to a cell and dying.

being used as "food" for an SCP isnt fun, most of the test researchers do (if there are even any online) arent very fun

so our only thing for enjoyment is to cause riots and just fighting.

13 hours ago, _Alpha_ said:

What about the potential of making it harder for d-class to truly riot, such as a making it tougher to riot with superior weapons for GENSEC? Or perhaps make it where theres more inherent visual rewards for players to join Foundation jobs. Perhaps nerfing d-class or the donator weapons they can recieve. It shouldn't be easy for D-class to break out realistically in the SCP universe.

also no, nerfing D-class weapons wont make us "want to RP more"

it just makes us not want to play D-class at all

+Support if this can be pulled off, but like colt said there isnt much that could be done

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On 6/1/2022 at 12:19 AM, Cosmic The Italian said:

Omg how has nobody eveR thought of this.

I mean doesn't hurt to try but has been suggested countless times.

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I think I might have a system that could perhaps increase RP, keep in mind this is a VERY improvised idea so it will need some ironing out.

 

I think what makes Dclass so un-roleplay-able is the fact that dblock is so closed off. Security are forced to wait at the top while dclass can just do whatever the hell they want in lower so long as they aren't shooting security. Additionally, roleplay classes are extremely limited in their access, medical being a somewhat exception. So, my thought is this: Open up lower dblock to foundation personnel. Let them all go down, hang around the dclass, set up some activities with them.

 

This might sound insane. Hell, maybe it is. But let me paint the picture of some RP scenarios this creates versus what currently happens.

 

Current: A researcher wants to do a test on an SCP which has major psychological hazards to it. They look at the testing queue and pick out the first one they see.

New Scenario: A researcher wants to do a test on an SCP which has major psychological hazards to it. They need a dclass who is especially calm, won't crack under the pressure easily. They decide to go into lower dblock for a while and walk amongst them. After a while, they see one indulging in a game of chess. They'd make a great test subject, the research thinks.

 

Current: MTF needs dclass otherwise SCP-682 is going to get tired and attempt to escape. They stick in upper, trying to FearRP any dclass they see to no avail as the dclass simply jump away to lower before FearRP can reach them.

New Scenario: MTF needs dclass otherwise SCP-682 is going to get tired and attempt to escape. Security, in an attempt to assist MTF, have them line up against the wall. Those who do not comply risk getting shot. 

 

Current: There's some new dclass around. He hardly knows the rules of the place and he wants to make a name for himself. He punches another dclass. He is killed, the other dclass is left there.

New Scenario: There's some new dclass around. He hardly knows the rules of the place and he wants to make a name for himself. He looks at the guards nearby, not an easy target. Still, they want that reputation. They attack someone outside of view of the guards. They ultimately lose the fight and are killed. A medic, noticing the wounds on their victim, leads the dclass over to the medical section of dblock.

 

Current: Dclass seem to be constantly getting weapons. Security knows that something must be happening in lower for this to occur but they have no clue as to what. They call partial and wait it out, hoping weapon distribution somehow stops.

New Scenario: Dclass seem to be constantly getting weapons. Security knows that something must be happening in lower for this to occur but they have no clue as to what. They go into lower and demand all prisoners line up for a search. On one dclass (a supplier) they find a phone. They must've been using it to call in some favors. They're brought into solitary confinement for their key role in the riots.

 

Current: Dclass riot over and over again. Little to no strategy to it, they simply carry weapons up over and over, eventually security crack under the pressure. The dclass are free.

New Scenario: Dclass know that they only have 1 shot at this in their lifetime. Failure to escape will result in their end. Even with this gun, it may not be enough. So, they set an ambush. They tell the guards that its comedy night and to spread the word. Once researchers, medics, maintenance, and guards alike all fill the comedy area, they plan is set in motion. They draw their weapons and, after killing the guards, take prisoners. They can now use this bargaining chip to help them escape. After all, the foundation couldn't bare to lose some of their most trusted researchers, their best medics, or Steve, their favorite trash collector. They let some of the prisoners free, clearly unhappy about it.

 

Of course, there will need to be some other new systems put in place. Cells can become out of RP areas as to accommodate for space to AFK in. Security could perhaps be given non-lethal ways of dealing with riotous dclass to prevent them from simply coming back again and again with their donor weapons, instead forcing them to sit in a cell (the upper dblock ones) for a bit. Perhaps that non-lethal method comes back in the form of everyone's favorite baton-wielding SCP... or in another form if that wound is still too open. In exchange, perhaps those weapons are buffed a little bit as to make the risk perhaps worth it. 

 

This system could cut into the freedom of dclass but it encourages roleplay, gives foundation staff more to do, and makes dblock feel like a place on the map rather than a constant warzone. 

Or this whole rant could be for nothing, but even if you don't like this idea in particular hopefully it inspires some idea of how dblock could be.

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What are you suggesting? - If a Class-D is unarmed and not running require security to cuff them and bring them back to D-Block if it code Blue or Yellow. They can even have them brought to medical to be amnestied if they seen some SCPs they were supposed to yet.

How would this change better the server? - It would provide more RP instead of security just gunning down an obvious class-d standing still and harming no one.

Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - Some class-d may use this to their advantage and try to shoot security who arrest and it will also make bringing class-d back into d-block harder.

Who would this change mostly benefit? - Class-D

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What are you suggesting?

D-Block in its current state is just a massive TDM between GENSEC, and Class-D with no opportunity for roleplay. GENSEC also has no actual cover besides the Utility Station (which is extremely restrictive and is basically a one way avenue to dying) or its "Barricades" which D-Class can just rush up to and completely negate its purpose. (While part of this problem is the TTK, I think there's still ways to improve)

While I am completely open to suggestions for this idea, I think a possible solution to this problem would be to make actual Security Checkpoints in D-Block, rather than just having 3 big "queues" where D-Class can just run through with no prior thinking and get a few kills. D-Class instead have to go through an actual (or 2-3) Security Checkpoint, these would ideally be level 0 or 1 doors. This would open up more opportunities for people who actually want to get tested on / roleplay on the server without getting caught up in the rest of D-Block's crossfire, and also creates a unique combat environment in which if D-Class aren't thinking and coordinating, they're going to die, while if GENSEC aren't thinking, they can be easily overrun. These security checkpoints would also give a lot more cover and safe areas for D-Class.

Of course, there needs to be ways for D-Class to riot and this shouldn't make D-Block essentially unescapable as a D-Class, but it is possibly a part of the solution to one of the big problems in the server (That being the lack of Roleplay)

This suggestion isn't perfect, and I am absolutely looking for new ideas and ways to improve this suggestion, but the overall point is that D-Block needs to be redesigned in its entirety if we are looking to make this server less of a TDM and more of a Roleplay focused server.

How would this change better the server?

The addition of this would create new roleplay opportunities as the D-Class who actually wish to be tested on have a much easier and more direct way of getting tested on. It also generally improves the combat in D-Block because instead of having to deal with a bunch of crouch-jumping CC's running at you from 3 different angles, you have to actually coordinate riots and GENSEC has an actual defensive position to take, making combat in D-Block more than just getting domed from across D-Block and having GENSEC rush into the bar or the back right corner.

Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain.

The addition is an easy route to a lot of complaints from D-Class, because it will absolutely make escaping, rioting, and fighting GENSEC more difficult in the short term, and it absolutely would be initially difficult to balance because of the way SCP-RP currently works / is looked at (TDM). Additionally, this would be difficult to balance with Security Snipers, and would take a lot of time and effort due to Jayden and Coltable's current situations.

Who would this change mostly benefit?

GENSEC, Roleplayers, and D-Class in general in the long term

Please link any workshop content, screenshots, or anything that you think may be helpful to those who view this suggestion

Like I said earlier, PLEASE leave ideas, criticism, and other feedback in the comments, I'd love to improve this idea.

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This is mostly just to save time, dragging Class-D back to D-Block would just be a waste of time. I am alright with this being a "encouraged but not enforced" sort of thing. Another way this could work is if there are no active protocols within D-Block (Hands-Up / Partial Lockdown), then there must be an attempt to cuff and if it doesn't work then you can open fire. I am absolutely supporting of anything that brings more roleplay into the server.

 

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This is definitely something we can try and look into. I honestly feel it could encourage more people to stick around when they're new to the server as well.

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