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I won't state much out of this but I will add that r&d hcmd did know about the p008 change because they got it removed so that they could spawn med and armor charges freely this was agreed apon by the people that were actively hcmd at the time specifically Cloaker Box and Vindertech

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10 hours ago, Sparkle said:


Ever since the leaving of Coltable’s close friends, Coltable has been shown to completely neglect the server and has only been causing harm. For the past almost 2 months now, Coltable has been providing false information to HCMD and Site Administration as well as switching up on ideas/suggestions and unnecessarily shutting down or completely degrading the quality of phenomenal ideas on the server. As well as this, Coltable has made a limited presence on the server, Discord, Teamspeak, etc. and several SMT members have even stated that it will take Coltable a few weeks to get anything done. Currently, Coltable has been chalking up his lack of presence due to school and other real life situations, however many community members severely doubt this is the case as it has been ongoing for a few months at this point on top of Battlemetrics showcasing Coltable having time to play other games. Additionally, if Coltable was concerned about the quality of SCP-RP content, he would find substitutes to speak to HCMD, or SA (about said content) on his behalf. Branch Updates have been delayed weeks due to unavailability, or unwillingness to discuss terms about new ideas, and workshop items. Although I do believe that the presence of a Server Manager in game isn’t a necessity, his presence in all other aspects still needs to meet the servers demands, which he has shown to not be the case. The server has had a lack of content updates as of late making it incredibly boring, as well as a multitude of suggestions with phenomenal community support, that could also possibly fix the server, have been totally neglected by Coltable. Which I, as well as many other Community members believe, has caused the recent decline in the server.

 

Aight so firstly everything I'm about to say is not to be of any ill will towards you sparkle. I'm a bit biased towards coltable since he was my general and has been a homie for a long time, but you would also defend your friends wouldn't you? Coltable has been in college doing finals for the last couple months studying to actually get somewhere in real life. I don't know why you're theory crafting because he's playing other games to destress, probably from studying. Shame him for playing other games lol. He also has substituted by now having another manager to cover for this exact situation. As for the communication sparkle, for me personally I've had no issue with it, but ya know he doesn't live in the same time zone as us dude he's prolly asleep like a normal human being having a functional sleep schedule for a college student. Branch updates have been delayed for weeks because of compression and trying to get them to function in our server on top of being a college student. The suggestions that have phenomenal community support also are way to difficult to even code in and make into a reality without killing this game that is almost older than me. Even if everyone +supports it doesn't obligate him to add it to the server lmao.

 

10 hours ago, Sparkle said:

What did the admin do: NOTE: This is not a personal attack on anyone in the SCP-RP Community. This report is for the general benefit of the SCP-RP Community, on Behalf of Members of HCMD, SA, and O5.
 

Yeah you never reached out to me, cosmic, or alexx soooo idk whose behalf this is on.

 

10 hours ago, Sparkle said:

Evidence of the abusive action(s) (REQUIRED): Several Site Administration, HCMD, and even SMT members have disclosed that Coltable has been taking suggestions slowly recently, which is no problem to an extent. However, Coltable has been seen completely ghosting these members of the community which is crucial to its success. In addition to that, Security had a recent job concept called the Security HIRU unit. At the time of its creation, a vote was said to have started among Site Administration. Following the timeline, some Security CMD members paid for an add-on to be edited to server standards to which Coltable agreed and looked into stating it would be a great addition. Although these Security CMD members were aware that this was not fully confirmed to be added to the server, and that they shouldn’t be spending the money, Coltable stated that it would and that it was fine. Shortly after, Security HCMD posted their branch update including the addition of this job and raid. However, the branch update was completed, and Security saw no light of this new job addition. When Security HCMD asked Coltable as to why, Coltable stated that Site Administration entirely voted against it despite it having no negative votes and only positive votes. Once Security HCMD learned this information, Coltable completely started ghosting them when asked about it, and the job addition was put on hold. On top of this, Coltable has shown a constant lack of communication with Site Administration and HCMD as of recent, causing situations to occur that shouldn’t and general confusion among these members of the community.

If I'm not mistaken the HIRU unit was the one where security had to beat dclass in the event. Yeah it probably got thrown out of the window due to it being to difficult to put in or just being too undoable in reality than on paper. I think him "ghosting" is also a time zone and work issue lmao. I don't know about the whole voting thing but even if you voted for it to be put in doesn't make it possible to be put into the server.

 

10 hours ago, Sparkle said:



A full list of previous issues between Coltable include:

• Neglect/Favoritism to certain Branches. I get that Coltable was a CI Military main, however there has been an obvious increase in Combat-Oriented Content over the past several months. But a stability and lack of new content for RP Branches. Addition to this, Colt has decided to edit or change jobs with no prior notice to the branches High Command. Examples of this are RnDs Bio-Engineers getting the P008 removed or Maintenance’s Containment Specialist not getting their speed from the Maintenance branch update. All with no contact prior to the change. 


• There has been neglect on aspects being added to the server that also support Combat Branches, but are damaging to RP Branches (the best example is the fact the D5 can test on SCPs now, destroying the entire purpose of Research. This should have been dealt with instantly with denial. There is no good reason that an MTF Branch focussed on GOI are testing on SCPs.)

• Lack of Communication with HCMD, SA, O5, and Staff. (sometimes even to the extent of ghosting, or ignoring the pleas).


• Delaying Updates because of lack of availability. To put it in the previous words of Igneous in the Hotshot report, when Igneous himself had to back Coltable up in other discussions:

 

All of the changes he's made has made pvp more interesting in my opinion. (Except ttk lmao). So the Bio part you stated was completely ignorant and I was even there for that. B0x negotiated that if the P-008 was removed that bio would get the ability to spawn in med charges and armor charges, and they both came to a agreement. B0x didn't have to do this, he WANTED to do this. He could've kept it the same but he wanted it. Ask around before making that claim. The lack of communication again is most likely college, time zones, and work. I don't know why you're complaining about delaying updates. He releases all the weapon changes and then does the new stuff later when he has the time like I don't know why you said that.

 

This is long but you don't have to read it lol. Not putting a TLDR that's lame.

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11 hours ago, Sparkle said:

To put it in the previous words of Igneous in the Hotshot report

I'd prefer if you didn't try to use my words to back up your own report. Using what I said in the quote to back up what you're trying to do here is like comparing apples to oranges. Absolutely not the same thing.

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3 hours ago, [GL] Fizz-y Soda said:

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Colt has literally done the most amount of work any manager has done in a short period of time (Since I've been around). He's literally been pushing suggestion after suggestion when he has time. He doesn't have a lot of time to do the stuff he needs to do with the server but he has been doing a good job at it. He's been pretty logical about majority of the decisions, and a few that were just as a result of the lack of time he has to put towards the server.

While he may not be doing what you want, he's still doing more than Rang ever did and he's definitely not sitting on his ass occupying the manager position. 

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You guys know we have two managers right? Why do not you go and ask the other one?

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6 hours ago, Sixx said:

Honestly, Coltable is a good manager when he's actually present and able to dedicate time to the server... Far better than the previous Manager (I don't mean Igneous, The other one). The main issue is him able to dedicate time to the server, however with college that's understandable for the time being as I'm in a similar boat. 

 

The thing that I had a huge issue with was when he kinda lied to Security HCMD regarding their new job, I may be wrong when I say this so feel free to correct me however I was told he told Security HCMD that the majority of Site Admin are against the job, however the vote was a 7-1. 

 

The other issue recently is mainly communication, Sometimes it feels he chooses to ignore certain topics and situations, however he hasn't been able to be too present on the server and I bet he gets shit tons of msgs everyday regarding this server so I can't expect him to remember everything. 

 

TL:DR, Colt is one of the best managers when he's present and actively able to dedicate a sizeable amount of time to the server, but recently it's been extremely limited. He has a few issues but who doesn't? If Colt is able to free up his schedule more and get back to business it would be wonderful, I dont think he needs to be replaced at all but simply given a wake-up call. 

 

We don't need another Rang situation when it comes to this report...

 

I 100% agree with this. Coltable has shown to have great potential and has been a great Manager. However, with his recent absence, communication as well as timeframes on changes have been relatively long, and it's been difficult to get much done. Hopefully with finals coming to an end, this changes and we get back into a good flow of stuff getting done.

Regardless, I think everyone on the server is looking forward to future changes that this Community has to offer, and hopefully this is a stepping stone in that direction (Which is what I interpret a major chunk of this report is intended to do).

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9 hours ago, [GL] Fizz-y Soda said:

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Colt has literally done the most amount of work any manager has done in a short period of time (Since I've been around). He's literally been pushing suggestion after suggestion when he has time. He doesn't have a lot of time to do the stuff he needs to do with the server but he has been doing a good job at it. He's been pretty logical about majority of the decisions, and a few that were just as a result of the lack of time he has to put towards the server.

While he may not be doing what you want, he's still doing more than Rang ever did and he's definitely not sitting on his ass occupying the manager position. 

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On 6/2/2022 at 2:48 PM, Orange 🍊 said:

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Colt had been putting in 200% effort since becoming a member of smt comparably. Never seen someone as devoted into his server and members going around and having your long conversations about the simplest stuff lol, finals have been difficult as he try’s to unload the different stresses brought to him.  
Bringing back RP into the server is an extremely difficult task especially when a large majority are here for combat, ex. the weapon buff suggestions every other week and branches always wanting to raise hp and armor. Made even harder when certain players on cc’s make it their dedication to go around shooting everyone they see.

 

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On 6/2/2022 at 11:26 AM, GarGar said:

Aight so firstly everything I'm about to say is not to be of any ill will towards you sparkle. I'm a bit biased towards coltable since he was my general and has been a homie for a long time, but you would also defend your friends wouldn't you? Coltable has been in college doing finals for the last couple months studying to actually get somewhere in real life. I don't know why you're theory crafting because he's playing other games to destress, probably from studying. Shame him for playing other games lol. He also has substituted by now having another manager to cover for this exact situation. As for the communication sparkle, for me personally I've had no issue with it, but ya know he doesn't live in the same time zone as us dude he's prolly asleep like a normal human being having a functional sleep schedule for a college student. Branch updates have been delayed for weeks because of compression and trying to get them to function in our server on top of being a college student. The suggestions that have phenomenal community support also are way to difficult to even code in and make into a reality without killing this game that is almost older than me. Even if everyone +supports it doesn't obligate him to add it to the server lmao.

 

Yeah you never reached out to me, cosmic, or alexx soooo idk whose behalf this is on.

 

If I'm not mistaken the HIRU unit was the one where security had to beat dclass in the event. Yeah it probably got thrown out of the window due to it being to difficult to put in or just being too undoable in reality than on paper. I think him "ghosting" is also a time zone and work issue lmao. I don't know about the whole voting thing but even if you voted for it to be put in doesn't make it possible to be put into the server.

 

All of the changes he's made has made pvp more interesting in my opinion. (Except ttk lmao). So the Bio part you stated was completely ignorant and I was even there for that. B0x negotiated that if the P-008 was removed that bio would get the ability to spawn in med charges and armor charges, and they both came to a agreement. B0x didn't have to do this, he WANTED to do this. He could've kept it the same but he wanted it. Ask around before making that claim. The lack of communication again is most likely college, time zones, and work. I don't know why you're complaining about delaying updates. He releases all the weapon changes and then does the new stuff later when he has the time like I don't know why you said that.

 

This is long but you don't have to read it lol. Not putting a TLDR that's lame.

Yea i didnt know about this report either

 

very well worded tho

 

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He is just a teen, give him a break. There is still a world outside with grass.

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I mean everyone else has said enough, finals and all that sounds really time consuming... but after those if the lack of commune continues I think he should maybe resign.

Either way, more communication would be a big help.

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14 minutes ago, Jummy said:

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I mean everyone else has said enough, finals and all that sounds really time consuming... but after those if the lack of commune continues I think he should maybe resign.

Either way, more communication would be a big help.

 

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So the weekend has passed. I guess it is as good time as any for a response.

Some introductory points:
- Yes, I will admit. I was way over my head in writing this report.
- Yes, I did expect this report to receive mostly negative response but at the same time there was a purpose to this report that I will cover.
- Yes, I believe Coltable does really well as a Manager and has been one of the best. But there is an asterisk to that in my mind.

So to begin,
I believe the bullets of this report was overlooked and missed with responses that picked on a part that I miswrote or puts all the blame onto finals. The whole P008 thing was not the best example or a point well written. I'll take the blame on that one but I do not believe it should discredit the report in its entirety. The blame on finals is a catalyst, not a result. There are ways to handle which initially the steps were taken correctly at first but then the rest wasn't which is one of the reasons we are here.

To those that gave the report a look in its entirety, thank you. Even if it was negative, it gave a perspective I can respect.

Continuing, I did not and am not asking for the world and for Coltable to be god. I understand there are limitation especially in a game running on a decrepit engine. At no point did I ask for everything to be implemented in a snap.

I am asking for better communication in general. There was serious missteps in communication that created frustration, confusion, and decrease in confidence.

Security is a very extreme example of where things began falling apart. Yes, this about the HIRU job. In long summary, this was a little bit after the rejection of the D-Class Weapon Cache raid system and Juggarnaut H.U.L.K. (which the community rejected, we accepted that loss and it was a heavy one with months of preparation and some cash down the drain)
Link for those unaware: https://gaminglight.com/forums/topic/88909-security-branch-update-4222-completed/
Coltable himself worked with Security on a replacement job which spawned the HIRU. He personnaly brought the job to us to vote on 4/11/22. This job also included a weapon which he asked us about and overwhelmingly convinced us it was all good. We voted 7 - 0 with small skepticism but point stands. Updates were asked for this job on multiple occasions in Site Admin channels. Coltable was pinged on some of those occassions and no reponse was received (at one point on the same day he responded to something completely different 3 hours apart). Also during this period, other proposals were brought to us to vote on as well while this one was approved and sitting. At one point, Security High Command came to me personally about someone had told them that Site Admin wasn't onboard. That was what got me very heated because I had to be the one to sit in front of them and say otherwise. 

It wasn't until 5/21/22 that we were finally given word by Chief then later Coltable, that the job was being held in a turnaround of opinion. While I am not hard pressed about the turn of opinion, it hurts to see just a few sentences take so long and couldn't even be brought to Security personally considering it was his development. It had to be delivered by proxy which caused some hurt.

While Coltable may come in and say he did eventually meet with High Command to smooth it out, it is the principle of the issue.

I had also gotten other anecdotes that some branch high command were not responded to regarding their branch updates. Namely, Research had been trying for a month to DM Coltable AND Jayden for something. CI R&D had been particularly unhappy with the lack communication thus far with their attempts. Way before those and Security's thing, Medical's attempts at any response to their suggestions and addons went blank. While they finally got their stuff out and approved, it took longer than necessary and Medical Low Command had a mini uprising for literally any changes to happen which we just couldn't.

Which brings us to a point that was very clearly marked on this report: "Neglect/Favoritism to certain Branches". And by extension, quote GarGar over here...

On 6/2/2022 at 11:26 AM, GarGar said:

Yeah you never reached out to me, cosmic, or alexx soooo idk whose behalf this is on.

Have you consider asking why I wouldn't reach out to those individuals? My bad for lumping all of you together as this is more geared to the branches that did not receive that bulk of the attention, love, and care.

MTF and CI Military, I will not sugar coat it. You guys are getting the world that the other branches tend to not receive. I don't hold ill will against you all. And it is completely understandable of your -Supports because you guys don't see what some of us see. I just wish us over here on the other side had the same.

So my final words. With understanding that the report will be denied, and I will accept that whole-heartedly.
Even the playing field, communicate better with your High Command and Site Admin (which is already improving), and give them a fighting chance or denial so we can move on. Even if the response is "I'll get back to you, I got you on queue". It means a heck of a lot more than no response at all.

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this isn't a report saying coltable isn't a good manager, it's just one saying things are lacking and this is simply a way to put it out there. I think coltable is one of the hardest working people I know, I think nothing but the highest respect for the lad (even after reporting me lmao). I think he's amazing, but I do have to say communication has been down and just as of late not that good. If he needs time away thats fine, he did take an LOA. But this has been going on for months now from what I see and even know. 

What coltable has done is outstanding, but there are a LOT of stuff he promised and guaranteed us RP lads and it never came. Just a complete and udder stop of any progress with no one willing to help or to even tell us it's not being worked on. This has been going on so long in fact I bet some of the current hcmd don't even know about what I'm talking about. But thats the issue, it's not that he isn't getting stuff done, it's constant shifting on opinions and actions that aren't told so were left in the dark, telling our players that something is coming and than to be told it was scrapped long ago and than us being forced to let down our members. That's the issue that does need to be fixed.

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On 6/6/2022 at 10:40 PM, Sparkle said:

Have you consider asking why I wouldn't reach out to those individuals? My bad for lumping all of you together as this is more geared to the branches that did not receive that bulk of the attention, love, and care.

MTF and CI Military, I will not sugar coat it. You guys are getting the world that the other branches tend to not receive. I don't hold ill will against you all. And it is completely understandable of your -Supports because you guys don't see what some of us see. I just wish us over here on the other side had the same.

Sparkle in the most respectful way, you still have not given any ideas for how to revive RP. No one knows a way to do it without pissing people off. If anything, it should be your job as O5 to literally revive RP and it shouldn't be put on Coltable (he is in charge of adding the ideas to the server, not thinking about them). Being in Site Admin with you, we still couldn't think of a way to do it. 

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17 minutes ago, enuz 💣 said:

Sparkle in the most respectful way, you still have not given any ideas for how to revive RP. No one knows a way to do it without pissing people off. If anything, it should be your job as O5 to literally revive RP and it shouldn't be put on Coltable (he is in charge of adding the ideas to the server, not thinking about them). Being in Site Admin with you, we still couldn't think of a way to do it. 

Sir, respectfully, read the posts as they are. This is not an attempt to force revival of RP or force Coltable to come up with ideas. This was to change the style in which the referenced situations were handled. At no point did I ever state anything regarding RP. That is an entirely seperate battle. Do not pick and choose bullet points to argue down.

Also it would HELP if the referenced branches weren't being brushed off mentioned IN BOTH POSTS.

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35 minutes ago, Sparkle said:

Sir, respectfully, read the posts as they are. This is not an attempt to force revival of RP or force Coltable to come up with ideas. This was to change the style in which the referenced situations were handled. At no point did I ever state anything regarding RP. That is an entirely seperate battle. Do not pick and choose bullet points to argue down.

Also it would HELP if the referenced branches weren't being brushed off mentioned IN BOTH POSTS.

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ALSO, I do respect the fact that you did own up to you being wrong. Sorry if it felt like I overlooked that. And I also respect you looking at both sides. 

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@enuz 💣 Sir, that screenshot references nothing of what you just said about providing ideas to revive RP.

Bullet 1. Talks very clearly that the RP branches have been given no consideration for THEIR ideas. Branch High Command's ideas to do what little they can to keep their branch running. This references job changes and lack of content additions to help support the foundation of RP. It was already understood we cannot revive RP without the players willing to give it a chance. But at least they try to do what they can to make what they have more fun. Am I asking Coltable to drop everything for them? Fuck no. I am again asking for simple reform to how questions are handled. I bring up again that Research had been trying to do a simple branch update for a month and received NO RESPONSE. Similar inquiries were untouched and ghosted without so much as a "later".

Bullet 2. I don't feel I need to go into that bullet point with you. But for everyone else. D5 receiving clearance to test on SCPs as MTF. Something that is not in the scope of the branch's original intentions. You say you want ideas to revive RP but look again at what you just screenshotted. How does that help Research at all?

I want to seriously believe you are posting all this without malice but... really sir?

I am not asking for a whole lot with this report.

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16 minutes ago, Sparkle said:

@enuz 💣 Sir, that screenshot references nothing of what you just said about providing ideas to revive RP.

Bullet 1. Talks very clearly that the RP branches have been given no consideration for THEIR ideas. Branch High Command's ideas to do what little they can to keep their branch running. This references job changes and lack of content additions to help support the foundation of RP. It was already understood we cannot revive RP without the players willing to give it a chance. But at least they try to do what they can to make what they have more fun. Am I asking Coltable to drop everything for them? Fuck no. I am again asking for simple reform to how questions are handled. I bring up again that Research had been trying to do a simple branch update for a month and received NO RESPONSE. Similar inquiries were untouched and ghosted without so much as a "later".

Bullet 2. I don't feel I need to go into that bullet point with you. But for everyone else. D5 receiving clearance to test on SCPs as MTF. Something that is not in the scope of the branch's original intentions. You say you want ideas to revive RP but look again at what you just screenshotted. How does that help Research at all?

I want to seriously believe you are posting all this without malice but... really sir?

I am not asking for a whole lot with this report.

no malice, just clarity. sorry if it came off that way :3

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14 hours ago, Sparkle said:

I bring up again that Research had been trying to do a simple branch update for a month and received NO RESPONSE.

Here's a quick solution to this issue! There's 2 Managers, 3 Head Admins, and 1 Head of Staff. There's more people to go to if someone isn't responding. Also Branch Updates can just go on the forums, and management can drop feedback & questions on the post itself, instead of having to be bothered with every small change. I see going directly to the manager every single time is avoiding the whole purpose of Chain of Command. You're asking from better communication from Coltable, but there's so many more people that can alternatively be contacted about issues that need to be addressed. Those people can then forward it to the Manager when he is free. It isn't Coltables job to inform the community about his personal life, and why he'll be unavailable for a small period of time, it's his job to ensure the server is running smoothly. Coltable has already done his job, by setting up a Chain of Command of competent management that is able to assist in that task overall. 


I'm interested in seeing a counter response to this, if you're willing to respond again, but that's just how I see this in my opinion. 

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On 6/2/2022 at 12:29 AM, Sparkle said:

Delaying Updates because of lack of availability. To put it in the previous words of Igneous in the Hotshot report, when Igneous himself had to back Coltable up in other discussions:

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Finals, along with anything else that could possibly effecting his activity could come into play right now, nobody can put 100% effort in with much more important things to care about, and with me not even being able to play but coltable telling me stuff about what he's done shows that he actually has done alot with out even putting 100% of his time in. 

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