Cuz L0g1c Posted May 5, 2022 Author Share Posted May 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Right Twix Bar said: So, I'm going to kinda go against the flow here and say, I don't think a full revert should happen, at least not instantly. I just fear for branches like Medical (and RnD and Maintenance to an extent) when they can’t do their job anymore. Because, there won't be anyone to heal/armor if people barely have enough time to react before they're dead. I propose an incremental increase of weapon damage until a good middle ground is reached, or it's reverted to the old ttk. I can't say for foundation but for Chaos Bios were literal gods back in the day. Military relied on Bios because they could give health AND armor which is very useful when everyone can get killed with half a mag. If anything I see it as more of an opportunity for noncombatants to engage with combative branches as they will be more useful and vital in combat. 4 W̵̠̽O̶̤̐̎͠R̷̨̯͇̘̓̓̐̚Ķ̶̨͙̌͗͋̐ ̷͎̻͈͘H̵̦̝̅́͝Ä̶̱̽R̷̔͊̀͜͠D̷̲̠̱͛͘ ̵̹̞͖͍̽͂Í̶̛̠́̎ͅÑ̶̟͈ ̸̭̖̋̀S̸̞̯͔̈́̍̈̽͜I̵̞̹̓͌̈́Ḹ̴͕̤̠̃Ë̶̘́͑Ṋ̵̰̞̀̏̄́C̸̼̱̏̑Ě̸͕̕͝ ̸͚͊͐͘Á̵̩̂̃N̶̩̦̈́Ḑ̷̲̣͐͐ ̷̨̣͇̄L̴̢̳̰̀̃E̸̙͗̏̕T̵̜́͛̿ ̴̝̯̠̐̇́S̸̠̣͋̆U̶̳̖̹̐C̶͙̩̽C̶̩̻̍̕E̷͈͖̓̈S̴͖͎̆͒͆͜S̸̥̞̗̠̀͌ ̶̫̩̬͂͛͝M̵͇̗͙͗͝͝A̶̛̬̦̾̿K̴̨̙̍ͅͅE̴̠͇̮͐͗́ ̵̳̲̅͑͝T̴͙͙̀̈́ͅH̶̢̎͛̈́̿E̴͈͖̹̔̂͝ ̴̹̯͓̂̈́N̶̦͌͒̔̎Ȍ̸̘͝I̴̭̠̅ͅS̸̭̼͋̕Ë̵́ A̵̙̥̭̠̓̅̎͘͝ͅ1̵̢̙̲̰̦̞͆͊ ̴̝̏́͑͂͝N̴̨͊̍o̸̖̦̬̅̑̇̍͠m̶̖̃a̸͉̤̜̪̘͑͌͝ḑ̶̘̣̬͇̈́ ̵͈̤̪͇̉͋̓̾Ỉ̴͓͔͍̻͖͕́͆͂̕͝ / Ş̵̧̛͙̙̼̌́͑̐͠T̶̢͔̫̿̓̿̅F̷̟̗̅̄̚ͅ ̷̝̈́̏̀̾̔̑D̸̰̓̾͌͝͝4̵̠̼̓̅̆͝͠ ̷̭̺͎̇H̸͚͖͇̃̀̋͘a̷̛͎͉̦̦̐̽́̑d̷̨͖͋e̵͍͒͆ś̵͈̪͓̞ ̸̣͉̄Ḍ̸̓I̶̩͖̖̟̯͒3̵̨̡̩͇̏̏ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Grayson Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Cuz L0g1c said: I can't say for foundation but for Chaos Bios were literal gods back in the day. Military relied on Bios because they could give health AND armor which is very useful when everyone can get killed with half a mag. If anything I see it as more of an opportunity for noncombatants to engage with combative branches as they will be more useful and vital in combat. this right here as it stands for ci bios are useless since we can go without armor guns still take a full mag to kill a 200 hp class EX MAJ In MIL EX A2 In E4 Current VCMDR Of Sarkic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravergang Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 On 5/4/2022 at 7:04 AM, CyClone said: +support i hate shooting 15 times into someone and them surviving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinzler Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 3:41 PM, IgnisNuts said: +Support PLZ listen and bring back old ttk, a lot of weapons just don't get used because of the terrible time to kill... Former A-1, Nu-7, D-5 Professional Lawn Mower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PandaInShitpostLand Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 On 5/5/2022 at 2:20 PM, Right Twix Bar said: So, I'm going to kinda go against the flow here and say, I don't think a full revert should happen, at least not instantly. I just fear for branches like Medical (and RnD and Maintenance to an extent) when they can’t do their job anymore. Because, there won't be anyone to heal/armor if people barely have enough time to react before they're dead. I propose an incremental increase of weapon damage until a good middle ground is reached, or it's reverted to the old ttk. I agree partly with this. im going to add on to it If the negative damage multiplier is removed, weapons would become heavily unbalanced due to them being balanced around that multiplier. weapons would need to be altered and changed to make sure they dont become the strongest shite in the entire game (the M98B for example). and there are so many weapons that are so bad not because of TTK but due to their damage, firerate, spread, and recoil that needs to be fixed before the Multiplier is removed or else they remain heavily inferior (The CSGO AK47 fucking sucks.) The God Gamer of the Shitpost Squadron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obama is Sandwich Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 On 5/4/2022 at 12:28 AM, PryingTree said: +Support We need some more combat rp ngl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprink Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 On 5/4/2022 at 10:04 AM, CyClone said: +support i hate shooting 15 times into someone and them surviving. Deputy Head of Security | Executive Event Team | Admin | Forum Diplomat | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyara Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 On 5/4/2022 at 12:20 AM, Yato Sensei said: + Support Just bring back the normal damage value back up, idk why that thing had to be messed around with at all when damage values on X weapon would've been way better to mess around with. Yes, it would take more time, but it would also be easier to balance things around. PLEASEEEEEEEE, I hate the current TTK so much. The old TTK was so much better+support Former Nu7 Command Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wXc GameHunter Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 On 5/4/2022 at 1:20 AM, Yato Sensei said: + Support Just bring back the normal damage value back up, idk why that thing had to be messed around with at all when damage values on X weapon would've been way better to mess around with. Yes, it would take more time, but it would also be easier to balance things around. Former Ranks: Medical AHOMS, SEC Major AJG WL Lucilla, D5 Vice Commander, CI R&D Archivist DHBI, CI Lieutenant Colonel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuz L0g1c Posted May 9, 2022 Author Share Posted May 9, 2022 On 5/8/2022 at 3:43 PM, PandaInShitpostLand said: I agree partly with this. im going to add on to it If the negative damage multiplier is removed, weapons would become heavily unbalanced due to them being balanced around that multiplier. weapons would need to be altered and changed to make sure they dont become the strongest shite in the entire game (the M98B for example). and there are so many weapons that are so bad not because of TTK but due to their damage, firerate, spread, and recoil that needs to be fixed before the Multiplier is removed or else they remain heavily inferior (The CSGO AK47 fucking sucks.) I agree with you, with this change all weapons would need to be looked at. However there is always going to be a meta (F2K, L85, M98B, USAS right now). However with this change of TTK, a lot of the lower tier weapons would be able to compete with the higher tier ones, it would just rely on the players skill and tactical abilities. W̵̠̽O̶̤̐̎͠R̷̨̯͇̘̓̓̐̚Ķ̶̨͙̌͗͋̐ ̷͎̻͈͘H̵̦̝̅́͝Ä̶̱̽R̷̔͊̀͜͠D̷̲̠̱͛͘ ̵̹̞͖͍̽͂Í̶̛̠́̎ͅÑ̶̟͈ ̸̭̖̋̀S̸̞̯͔̈́̍̈̽͜I̵̞̹̓͌̈́Ḹ̴͕̤̠̃Ë̶̘́͑Ṋ̵̰̞̀̏̄́C̸̼̱̏̑Ě̸͕̕͝ ̸͚͊͐͘Á̵̩̂̃N̶̩̦̈́Ḑ̷̲̣͐͐ ̷̨̣͇̄L̴̢̳̰̀̃E̸̙͗̏̕T̵̜́͛̿ ̴̝̯̠̐̇́S̸̠̣͋̆U̶̳̖̹̐C̶͙̩̽C̶̩̻̍̕E̷͈͖̓̈S̴͖͎̆͒͆͜S̸̥̞̗̠̀͌ ̶̫̩̬͂͛͝M̵͇̗͙͗͝͝A̶̛̬̦̾̿K̴̨̙̍ͅͅE̴̠͇̮͐͗́ ̵̳̲̅͑͝T̴͙͙̀̈́ͅH̶̢̎͛̈́̿E̴͈͖̹̔̂͝ ̴̹̯͓̂̈́N̶̦͌͒̔̎Ȍ̸̘͝I̴̭̠̅ͅS̸̭̼͋̕Ë̵́ A̵̙̥̭̠̓̅̎͘͝ͅ1̵̢̙̲̰̦̞͆͊ ̴̝̏́͑͂͝N̴̨͊̍o̸̖̦̬̅̑̇̍͠m̶̖̃a̸͉̤̜̪̘͑͌͝ḑ̶̘̣̬͇̈́ ̵͈̤̪͇̉͋̓̾Ỉ̴͓͔͍̻͖͕́͆͂̕͝ / Ş̵̧̛͙̙̼̌́͑̐͠T̶̢͔̫̿̓̿̅F̷̟̗̅̄̚ͅ ̷̝̈́̏̀̾̔̑D̸̰̓̾͌͝͝4̵̠̼̓̅̆͝͠ ̷̭̺͎̇H̸͚͖͇̃̀̋͘a̷̛͎͉̦̦̐̽́̑d̷̨͖͋e̵͍͒͆ś̵͈̪͓̞ ̸̣͉̄Ḍ̸̓I̶̩͖̖̟̯͒3̵̨̡̩͇̏̏ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ein Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 On 5/4/2022 at 1:20 AM, Yato Sensei said: + Support Just bring back the normal damage value back up, idk why that thing had to be messed around with at all when damage values on X weapon would've been way better to mess around with. Yes, it would take more time, but it would also be easier to balance things around. ONG RETIRED Security Colonel / Warden Legate / Juggernaut Enforcer / Research Administrator / M.A.D. Site Operations Chief / RRA Professor / MTF Delta-5 'Front Runners' Captain / Veteran Raptor Operative / Internal Affairs Agency Assistant Director / MTF Nu-7 'Hammer Down' Captain / Covert Agent / Deputy Head Field Training Officer / UN Global Occult Coalition Corporal / Combat Medic Tactical Paramedic / R&D Scientist / Marksman Recon Specialist / MTF Alpha-1 'Red Right Hand' Major / Enforcer Squadron Lead "We are the first line of defense. We are the first responders tasked to save those in danger. We have the responsibility to ensure the safety and well-being of all staff members. Because of that, you are the bravest men I have ever had the honor to serve with.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltable Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Honestly dont want the server turning even more into team death match so cant see much of a change happening here, ill move it to in progress for now but i wouldnt expect much of a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltable Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 In Progress! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltable Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Increased from .65 to .70 (original ttk which was crazy fast was .75) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltable Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Completed! This suggestion is now in the server Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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