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What are you suggesting? - Remove M98B From Security Sniper

How would this change better the server? -  It would allow d-class to have a chance

Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. -  Security may complain

Who would this change mostly benefit? -  D-Class

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D-Class already got nerfed to the ground considering that Tommy Gun is worthless and the main d-class SMGs got a huge recoil nerf. I don't see why Security Sniper (which you can get at SGT) gets the best sniper in the game. They are going up against d-class that just got completely nerfed. Everything was 100% fine when they had AI AW50

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Coltable himself offered this switch and I’ve hardly noticed the change. The 98B has a very long time between shots so unless they get ZJ back all you gotta do is move enough and they’re not gonna get you

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4 hours ago, Nydekore said:

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Coltable himself offered this switch and I’ve hardly noticed the change. The 98B has a very long time between shots so unless they get ZJ back all you gotta do is move enough and they’re not gonna get you

If Coltable approved the change then he himself saw it as reasonable so I don't see the major problem especially if it has a long time in between shots.

 

 

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People see M98B and go “GENSEC need bad gun ooga booga.” We still lose D-Block regardless so what’s the issue?

Also, it was Colt himself that suggested it. 

ALSO, HCMD don’t appreciate when people make suggestions about their branch without speaking to them first. No effort was made to contact us prior. Although it’s not a rule it’s just etiquette and respectful.

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Personally going to -support not necessarily because of the suggestion itself, but as the suggestion was made without consulting GenSec HCMD. A suggestion relating to a branch should be made either by that branch's HCMD or in cooperation with their HCMD. If the HCMD are refusing to cooperate I can see making a suggestion, but from my experience with GenSec HCMD they're very open to changes and are willing to accept nerfs if the community want that. Will keep at a -support until I see approval from GenSec HCMD.

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Don't most snipers 1 tap D class? even if it was removed, they'd still get something strong. I really don't mean to be rude, but it sounds like a skill issue. 

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-Support, It's very tempting to say something along the lines of "skill issue, requires good aim to use anyway", but being HCMD I gotta be all respectful and stuff. So, the M98B does 158 damage to the body which is all you can hit on Class D due to no head shot hitboxes which may one shot Class D, but as the age old tale goes, you're Dclass you shouldn't be difficult to kill, if you're struggling to riot because of it to me it seems like you need to try work with other class D more, one or two Class D shouldn't be able to wipe out GenSec it just doesn't make much sense.

For those Dclass CC's that are worried about the sniper, please keep in mind you can have 100 125  which is quite a chunk more then OFC or Enlisted, and you have the Tec-9 which although not that good, probably isn't that much worse then Enlisted guns AND you guys have a LOT more experience then most people in GenSec, most OFC's don't know how to buy ammo, let alone crouch jump spam in combat with a half naked man using a guitar.

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8 hours ago, Nydekore said:

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Coltable himself offered this switch and I’ve hardly noticed the change. The 98B has a very long time between shots so unless they get ZJ back all you gotta do is move enough and they’re not gonna get you

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i’ll go over a few points.

If coltable allowed this it will most likely stand as it is a new update. I can see why he agreed to this as it is a slowish gun but high reward for hitting your shots.

But giving the highest damage gun to a starter class can be a bit op i can say. From using the m98b i can say that if you are hitting your shots it’s really deadly. Aka 2 shotting O5 and Ethics.

but this gun does have counters like close quarter combat which then it’s not very good.

I think a better fit would be the awp but then again i’m not gensec hcmd.

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Gensec loses d block constantly

literally any sniper one shots d class, they have 100 health, ive literally never seen a sniper do less then 100 damage unless you shoot their toe, kinda un needed. 

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42 minutes ago, Sixx said:

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Oh idk, a man with a orange jacket and no armor at all shouldn't be able to survive any type of sniper rifle.

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1 hour ago, CyClone said:

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i’ll go over a few points.

If coltable allowed this it will most likely stand as it is a new update. I can see why he agreed to this as it is a slowish gun but high reward for hitting your shots.

But giving the highest damage gun to a starter class can be a bit op i can say. From using the m98b i can say that if you are hitting your shots it’s really deadly. Aka 2 shotting O5 and Ethics.

but this gun does have counters like close quarter combat which then it’s not very good.

I think a better fit would be the awp but then again i’m not gensec hcmd.

Literally what he said ^   +/- SUPPORT

3 hours ago, Mind Stone said:

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People see M98B and go “GENSEC need bad gun ooga booga.” We still lose D-Block regardless so what’s the issue?

Also, it was Colt himself that suggested it. 

ALSO, HCMD don’t appreciate when people make suggestions about their branch without speaking to them first. No effort was made to contact us prior. Although it’s not a rule it’s just etiquette and respectful.

Suggestions get made against CI all the time without it being ran up the flag pole. Its a suggestion for a reason, you shouldn't need approval to voice your opinion...

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4 minutes ago, Cuz L0g1c said:

Literally what he said ^   +/- SUPPORT

Suggestions get made against CI all the time without it being ran up the flag pole. Its a suggestion for a reason, you shouldn't need approval to voice your opinion...

I never said anything about needing approval, I suggest merely trying to work things out with the people who run the branch before messing with it yourself. 

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High risk high reward i dont see an issue with keeping it tbh most snipers one shot 100 0 to like 125 0 so it wont really matter anyways + most people who play that job will most likely be gensec enlisted who are mostly new to gaminglight so i doubt they would be able to hit their shots against a dclass who is violently crouch spamming tbh the AW50 was better since you dont run like a sloth who just sipped lean so i dont see an issue with keeping it -Support

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This was suggested by coltable himself.

The gun itself is only good if you actually are accurate, and also has a slow fire rate, if by the off chance youre facing a GENSEC sniper and he misses, you basically won the fight. Plus you can overrun them pretty easily with more then 2 people, which in most cases D-class out number us and have no NLR.

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