General suggestion Bolt caster nerf [Completed]

[Pure]

-support 

I solo on CI dog

[Dick Grayson]

17 hours ago, sl33p said:

+support

would stop d5 commander to solo mech or dog

 

[ravergang]

17 hours ago, Tydrix Weeb said:

+Support 

D5 commander can survive a backstab from dolos which does 3000 damage -_-

 

[Jack (utility one)]

2 hours ago, Coltable said:

Okay i mean if thats true

I was told people tested it and it cant deflect those but I honestly dont know as I dont see the swore that useful besides creating space or retreating

[ShadowPL]

22 hours ago, Marshmallow Purple said:

This has been discussed several times and it already was dealt with
 

Heavy -Support

Reasons why it doesn't need any more changes:

1. It has very short range

2. It has not life stealing ability and never had that ability, no idea who started this stupid claim

3. It can block only around 2 shots ever few seconds, more RPM = More Damage dealt

4. Horrible melee hitreg like most of them

5. Not immune to Dolos stab or Kronos Chaingun at all, this is completely false and it has been debunked in weapon testing on the server.

6. If you are that close to the D5 Commander just backtrack and use range, if you rush a guy with a sword what do you expect to happen.

7. It already got a nerf and the sword only does around 70 dmg to a dclass

 

Long story short, this is a pointless suggestion that has already been said before

When did this happen cause when I did testing with the sword it did full damage, same with Kronos Chaingun

 

[islandtoad]

22 hours ago, Marshmallow Purple said:

This has been discussed several times and it already was dealt with
 

Heavy -Support

Reasons why it doesn't need any more changes:

1. It has very short range

2. It has not life stealing ability and never had that ability, no idea who started this stupid claim

3. It can block only around 2 shots ever few seconds, more RPM = More Damage dealt

4. Horrible melee hitreg like most of them

5. Not immune to Dolos stab or Kronos Chaingun at all, this is completely false and it has been debunked in weapon testing on the server.

6. If you are that close to the D5 Commander just backtrack and use range, if you rush a guy with a sword what do you expect to happen.

7. It already got a nerf and the sword only does around 70 dmg to a dclass

 

Long story short, this is a pointless suggestion that has already been said before

When did this happen cause when I did testing with the sword it did full damage, same with Kronos Chaingun

 

[PryingTree]

23 hours ago, Marshmallow Purple said:

This has been discussed several times and it already was dealt with
 

Heavy -Support

Reasons why it doesn't need any more changes:

1. It has very short range

2. It has not life stealing ability and never had that ability, no idea who started this stupid claim

3. It can block only around 2 shots ever few seconds, more RPM = More Damage dealt

4. Horrible melee hitreg like most of them

5. Not immune to Dolos stab or Kronos Chaingun at all, this is completely false and it has been debunked in weapon testing on the server.

6. If you are that close to the D5 Commander just backtrack and use range, if you rush a guy with a sword what do you expect to happen.

7. It already got a nerf and the sword only does around 70 dmg to a dclass

 

Long story short, this is a pointless suggestion that has already been said before

When did this happen cause when I did testing with the sword it did full damage, same with Kronos Chaingun

 

[Cuz L0g1c]

9 hours ago, Coltable said:

Okay i mean if thats true... thats kinda fucked lmao

@stitch @Jackwebb1112

D5 CMD is way to op. The fact that it can tank a whole mag from a mech says it all. Even in the clip u can see me dump almost a whole clip into him only doing 10 dmg. There is also a clip of me having a 1v1 with a D5 CMD on 939. At this point D5 CMD is more deadly than Enoch, not to mention the class has a  NLR of  ~3 min and there can be two of them. 

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/eD2x6B2s_wI4V/d1337FmFFhhf?invite=cr-MSxFOVEsMzIzMTA5Myw

 

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[ZJ]

At the same time the mech didn't die, and we didn't see if he died in the end of that clip, guessing he didn't. Your complaint is that he can "solo" the mech but normally the mech isn't alone, nor do I believe he could solo it even if it was 1v1

[Demon Dice]

On 3/16/2022 at 6:10 PM, Marshmallow Purple said:

This has been discussed several times and it already was dealt with
 

Heavy -Support

Reasons why it doesn't need any more changes:

1. It has very short range

2. It has not life stealing ability and never had that ability, no idea who started this stupid claim

3. It can block only around 2 shots ever few seconds, more RPM = More Damage dealt

4. Horrible melee hitreg like most of them

5. Not immune to Dolos stab or Kronos Chaingun at all, this is completely false and it has been debunked in weapon testing on the server.

6. If you are that close to the D5 Commander just backtrack and use range, if you rush a guy with a sword what do you expect to happen.

7. It already got a nerf and the sword only does around 70 dmg to a dclass

 

Long story short, this is a pointless suggestion that has already been said before

When did this happen cause when I did testing with the sword it did full damage, same with Kronos Chaingun

 

[Yato Sensei]

On 3/17/2022 at 12:10 AM, Marshmallow Purple said:

This has been discussed several times and it already was dealt with
 

Heavy -Support

Reasons why it doesn't need any more changes:

1. It has very short range

2. It has not life stealing ability and never had that ability, no idea who started this stupid claim

3. It can block only around 2 shots ever few seconds, more RPM = More Damage dealt

4. Horrible melee hitreg like most of them

5. Not immune to Dolos stab or Kronos Chaingun at all, this is completely false and it has been debunked in weapon testing on the server.

6. If you are that close to the D5 Commander just backtrack and use range, if you rush a guy with a sword what do you expect to happen.

7. It already got a nerf and the sword only does around 70 dmg to a dclass

 

Long story short, this is a pointless suggestion that has already been said before

When did this happen cause when I did testing with the sword it did full damage, same with Kronos Chaingun

Maybe learn how to ambush, set up traps and work tactically? If you are struggling with dealing with 1 man with a sword that has garbage range, you guys have really fallen off from grace.

- Support

[Marshmallow Purple]

On 3/17/2022 at 7:42 PM, Cuz L0g1c said:

D5 CMD is way to op. The fact that it can tank a whole mag from a mech says it all. Even in the clip u can see me dump almost a whole clip into him only doing 10 dmg. There is also a clip of me having a 1v1 with a D5 CMD on 939. At this point D5 CMD is more deadly than Enoch, not to mention the class has a  NLR of  ~3 min and there can be two of them. 

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/eD2x6B2s_wI4V/d1337FmFFhhf?invite=cr-MSxFOVEsMzIzMTA5Myw

 

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In that clip I watched you miss around 90% of your bites as well as the 939 swep having terrible hitreg, Dont think this is a sword issue

[Cuz L0g1c]

5 hours ago, Marshmallow Purple said:

In that clip I watched you miss around 90% of your bites as well as the 939 swep having terrible hitreg, Dont think this is a sword issue

You can see the mech putting in around ~100 rounds into him as well as other CI units. Also in the second clip you can see me literally mag dumping the D5 CMD and only dealing 10 dmg.  The 939 swep is bad when it comes to hit reg but the fact that I hit him >5 times shows that its the strongest MTF class by far. I feel like your comment is more targeting of me than the actual evidence in the clip. Next time look at background recourses before targeting someone. 

Edited March 20, 2022 by Cuz L0g1c

[MexicanGuy]

On 3/17/2022 at 11:57 PM, Yato Sensei said:

If you are struggling with dealing with 1 man with a sword that has garbage range, you guys have really fallen off from grace.

Golf club had the same suggestion and was nerfed even though it had a terrible range and hitreg, I don't see a problem with it being nerfed having so many perks from that weapon. At this point it looks like an scp weapon than an MTF.

 

Edited March 20, 2022 by MexicanGuy

[Marshmallow Purple]

2 hours ago, MexicanGuy said:

Golf club had the same suggestion and was nerfed even though it had a terrible range and hitreg, I don't see a problem with it being nerfed having so many perks from that weapon. At this point it looks like an scp weapon than an MTF.

 

It doesnt have any perks, No life steal or passive regen, the block only stops a few shots and its got awful range as well as low damage

2 hours ago, Cuz L0g1c said:

You can see the mech putting in around ~100 rounds into him as well as other CI units. Also in the second clip you can see me literally mag dumping the D5 CMD and only dealing 10 dmg.  The 939 swep is bad when it comes to hit reg but the fact that I hit him >5 times shows that its the strongest MTF class by far. I feel like your comment is more targeting of me than the actual evidence in the clip. Next time look at background recourses before targeting someone. 

I watched the mech hit the walls around it several times, plus ive seen how the kronos gun works against the sword, the sword doesnt block the bullets at all, Had Piller shoot me several times with it while blocking and every time it went right through, thats an issue of lag and just not aiming at the person. Also its a HCMD job its not gonna be weak

[Vuitheirt]

On 3/16/2022 at 5:31 PM, stitch said:

-Support

I don't know where people keep getting the Idea that the sword has a life-stealing ability but I can assure you that it does not. I'm healing when I'm out of combat and wait before I start healing so I don't get called out for combat-healing.

 

[Sixx]

On 3/18/2022 at 2:57 AM, Yato Sensei said:

Maybe learn how to ambush, set up traps and work tactically? If you are struggling with dealing with 1 man with a sword that has garbage range, you guys have really fallen off from grace.

- Support

 

[Sprink]

On 3/17/2022 at 9:31 AM, Tazza said:

-Support

I love CI man but its a melee that a few select people have access to, if your gonna nerf this you may as well nerf the mechs.

 

[Georgie_]

On 3/16/2022 at 3:10 PM, Marshmallow Purple said:

This has been discussed several times and it already was dealt with
 

Heavy -Support

Reasons why it doesn't need any more changes:

1. It has very short range

2. It has not life stealing ability and never had that ability, no idea who started this stupid claim

3. It can block only around 2 shots ever few seconds, more RPM = More Damage dealt

4. Horrible melee hitreg like most of them

5. Not immune to Dolos stab or Kronos Chaingun at all, this is completely false and it has been debunked in weapon testing on the server.

6. If you are that close to the D5 Commander just backtrack and use range, if you rush a guy with a sword what do you expect to happen.

7. It already got a nerf and the sword only does around 70 dmg to a dclass

 

Long story short, this is a pointless suggestion that has already been said before

When did this happen cause when I did testing with the sword it did full damage, same with Kronos Chaingun

 

[FeaR x Green Pikachu]

-support 

I get that you rush in because funny big group and very epic guns, but if you dont just rush everyone then the sword wouldn't be that bad

[Ya Boi Sawrunner]

damn man maybe if d5 just had normal fucking weapons we wouldnt have this problem lmao

tf is going on? I wanna return every now and then and see shit like this.

 

On the CI side, any melee weapon is op or underpowered in various situations, but like, it does seem pretty tanky. Would we call this karma for all the times you rushed mtf crowds down with a gold golf club and clean sweeped with it? I dunno, but at least everyone knew what it did.

 

On the D5 side, are yall sure you dont just want something nerfed so its not just a waste of an item? Like, dont you have to sell a kidney to get a branch update? Maybe being more transparent about how your guns and weapons work would help, if everyone knows how it works it makes the servers gameplay easier. Keeping secrets makes branch relations a mess.

 

I think the optimal solution would be someone putting better examples of the weapon in action from the players POV, perhaps an ET showing how it works more? Once we have a visible basis of HOW it works this conversation will be less, yknow, fucking dumb. Everyone is sayin one thing and everyone is sayin something else, how bout we get some straight up showing of it being used in a neutral situation from either side, then a bit more of it in action?  FROM A NEUTRAL PARTY FOR CHRISTS SAKE. Look at yall, its both sides rushing to defend their baby or demonize their enemy, its pointless. Just be more open. Everyone knows how TFA works and shit, not many know how your destiny guns work besides those in D5.

[Cuz L0g1c]

On 3/17/2022 at 7:42 PM, Cuz L0g1c said:

D5 CMD is way to op. The fact that it can tank a whole mag from a mech says it all. Even in the clip u can see me dump almost a whole clip into him only doing 10 dmg. There is also a clip of me having a 1v1 with a D5 CMD on 939. At this point D5 CMD is more deadly than Enoch, not to mention the class has a  NLR of  ~3 min and there can be two of them. 

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/eD2x6B2s_wI4V/d1337FmFFhhf?invite=cr-MSxFOVEsMzIzMTA5Myw

 

HEAVY + SUPPORT

On top of this here is a clip of him tanking rounds from the Fluence, a weapon that 2-4 shots special forces. (Thanks Kieran for the clip)
https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/fiqEpbYI-pH2v/d1337Gzb7cD5?invite=cr-MSxMcDksMjE3MjYxMjQs

[J0LT]

+support

i have many clips but just saw this one and

totally skill

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/fiqEpbYI-pH2v/kKslZmdMICst?invite=cr

[Domo775]

+support

they know how busted it is since they mainly use it 

[Coltable]

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