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-Ban MTF Stealth Operatives from being inside D-Block.   They will continuously cloak inside of D-block in a corner and uncloak immediately when a D-class pulls out a weapon.

-Make the requirement for any other MTF to be in D-block at minimum: During a partial lockdown/RIOT/Code Orange/GENSEC PT.  Having 10 D5/Nu-7 in D block along with the large amount of GENSEC already there makes it nearly impossible for D-class to do anything without being immediately mowed down.

NOTE: The rule states "upon request" which really can be at anytime and really just crushes D-Class.

How would this change better the server? - It would increase the positive experience for players who play as D-Class.  They are very aggravating to many and would promote more D-Class to play: ultimately, allowing more D-Class for tests, preventing breaches etc.

Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - Potentially more breaches of SCP's,; however, one of MTF's main jobs is to patrol HCZ, so if they actually did their job, this wouldn't be an issue.

Who would this change mostly benefit? - D Class

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+support If it's also added that MTF can enter when 5 or less GENSEC are online

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4 minutes ago, Cecil Stedmen said:

+support If it's also added that MTF can enter when 5 or less GENSEC are online

 

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-Support

Nu7 CMD (and I hope D5 CMD) work to keep them out already. No need for MOTD change as you can report to a CMD member if they’re in there when they shouldn’t be 

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10 minutes ago, Nydekore said:

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Nu7 CMD (and I hope D5 CMD) work to keep them out already. No need for MOTD change as you can report to a CMD member if they’re in there when they shouldn’t be 

Can confirm, we tell them to not be in D block unless they 100% need to be in there

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I'm neutral on all the other stuff, but +support on stealth op not being allowed inside. Completely unfair to d class.

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Massive - Support

Sorry but this will just ruin the fun for MTF in general, the fact that you can't take D block every 5 seconds as D class means that GenSec/MTF are doing their job proper. And if you are annoyed that there is a large amount of MTF in D block, why not flag onto something that will cause them to move their attention away? Flag onto a SCP, ask for some food or hop on CI/Sarkic (if you can) and raid so that MTF have to pull back. 

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58 minutes ago, Yato Sensei said:

Massive - Support

Sorry but this will just ruin the fun for MTF in general, the fact that you can't take D block every 5 seconds as D class means that GenSec/MTF are doing their job proper. And if you are annoyed that there is a large amount of MTF in D block, why not flag onto something that will cause them to move their attention away? Flag onto a SCP, ask for some food or hop on CI/Sarkic (if you can) and raid so that MTF have to pull back. 

I'd +support the stealth op change IF the same change was done for CI infil.

I don't think it would be in the server's best interest to negate security's ability to request MTF reinforcements. Are we supposed to just ignore them and let them die? MTF really don't spend that much time in D-Block unless there's a reason.

All this change would do is increase the amount of riots and the speed of which D-Block is lost, which would contribute to the speed of which the site is lost.

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31 minutes ago, Piller said:

I'd +support the stealth op change IF the same change was done for CI infil.

I don't think it would be in the server's best interest to negate security's ability to request MTF reinforcements. Are we supposed to just ignore them and let them die? MTF really don't spend that much time in D-Block unless there's a reason.

All this change would do is increase the amount of riots and the speed of which D-Block is lost, which would contribute to the speed of which the site is lost.

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The reason MTF often stay In D-Block is to prevent Class-D from getting to Armory and Breaching SCPs

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1 hour ago, Yato Sensei said:

Massive - Support

Sorry but this will just ruin the fun for MTF in general, the fact that you can't take D block every 5 seconds as D class means that GenSec/MTF are doing their job proper. And if you are annoyed that there is a large amount of MTF in D block, why not flag onto something that will cause them to move their attention away? Flag onto a SCP, ask for some food or hop on CI/Sarkic (if you can) and raid so that MTF have to pull back. 

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-Support,

Wardens aren’t allowed in D-Block unless it’s partial and you know what happens, they just sit outside intersection. I really don’t want 12 MTF sitting in the intersection as a D-Class as I can’t take potshots at them. There’s only one spot for me to leave from and I’d get lit up if I did. Having it so they are allowed in D-Block might be better honestly.

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7 hours ago, Loaff said:

I'm neutral on all the other stuff, but +support on stealth op not being allowed inside. Completely unfair to d class.

 

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+Support 

Stealth OP is just unfair to d-class since they don't get thermals. But I do think Infil should still be allowed to go into d-block since foundation combatants could just call thermals.

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-support, we already kick them out usually if we don't need them, they are already not even allowed in LCZ on yellow and blue I believe for the most part and E11 can't enter at all

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11 hours ago, Yato Sensei said:

Massive - Support

Sorry but this will just ruin the fun for MTF in general, the fact that you can't take D block every 5 seconds as D class means that GenSec/MTF are doing their job proper. And if you are annoyed that there is a large amount of MTF in D block, why not flag onto something that will cause them to move their attention away? Flag onto a SCP, ask for some food or hop on CI/Sarkic (if you can) and raid so that MTF have to pull back. 

 

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13 hours ago, Yato Sensei said:

Massive - Support

Sorry but this will just ruin the fun for MTF in general, the fact that you can't take D block every 5 seconds as D class means that GenSec/MTF are doing their job proper. And if you are annoyed that there is a large amount of MTF in D block, why not flag onto something that will cause them to move their attention away? Flag onto a SCP, ask for some food or hop on CI/Sarkic (if you can) and raid so that MTF have to pull back. 

 

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