STONKSMAN Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Your In-game Name: STONKSMAN Your SteamID: STEAM_0:1:578204988 The admin's name in-game: HTF A4 Arbiter Baldur AO (J0LT), HTF A4 CHALLANGER A1 (1stSavagery) What warning did you receive: FailRP (Opening/closing doors after self breach stopped) When did you receive this warning: 19/02/2022 17:15gmt Please give a description of the situation that led to the warning: i was playing scp-079 and adverting my breach, while doing so i was opening and closing gate A because i was bored, MTF turned up to gate A and so did ci, so while i had my chance i was locking the doors to make the battle interesting for both sides. Why do you think this warn was false: i believe the warn was false because in the MOTD nowhere does it state specifically that 079cannot open and close doors when not breached, yes the MOTD states that when breached scp 079 can turn on teslas and whatnot but that is all it says, it says nothing about being able to open or close doors whatso ever, when i stated this to the staff member in question i was met with "Thats just common knowledge" and Savagery was quite rude overall, half of the time not even letting me speak and just butting in over me not letting me have a say at all, i said "it doesnt say it anywhere in the motd but i now see i was wrong, i already apologised for it thats my bad" savagery replied with "yeah but thats not an excuse" which i never implied that i was excusing it. Evidence the warning is false: Here is everything in the MOTD regarding scp-079, nowhere does it mention that the player cannot open/close doors if they are not breached, some may say its just common knowledge but i was genuinely unaware that this was the case and i had already read the motd prior to flagging on. SCP-079: A Euclid class SCP. SCP 079 is a sentient artificial intelligence who has vowed to escape the foundation while in the process causing as much chaos as possible. SCP-079 acts as a support class SCP with abilities designed to assist SCPs/CI in certain situations. With his ability to open/lock doors, and move around the map to different camera angles, he is a force to be reckoned with. SCP 079 is able to breach containment and cause foundation systems to malfunction.To be Recontained, a personnel within the maintenance branch must be escorted to the Power Room and short circuit SCP 079 out of the foundation's systems. A Maintenance Personnel must advert ‘SCP 079 SHORT CIRCUIT’ and SCP 079 must teleport to the power room and have a roll-off with the maintenance. Upon a successful roll-off SCP 079 retreats to its computer and is disconnected from Foundation systems. Upon a failed roll off SCP 079 electrocutes the maintenance technician, killing them. Maintenance personnel must wait 5 minutes before attempting to recontain SCP 079 again. SCP 079 is able to short circuit teslas and attempt to power them on. SCP 079 is to call staff for a roll off. If SCP 079 wins, Teslas are turned on. On a failed roll off, SCP 079 must wait 5 minutes before the next attempt. SCP-079 - SCP 079 will attempt to connect to the foundation systems over a period of 15 minutes. Rules/Specifics: SCP 079’s self breaching procedure can be halted by maintenance personnel going into its containment chamber and disconnecting SCP 079 from its power source. Maintenance Personnel must have a roll-off with SCP 079 to stop the process. SCP 079 must advert three warnings that it is attempting to connect to the foundation systems over a period of 15 minutes. Example: SCP 079 is attempting to connect to Foundation Systems! (0/3) Upon successfully connecting to Foundation systems SCP 079 is able to interact with various Foundation systems throughout the Foundation. as you can see, not once in the motd does it state that 079 cannot open and close doors when not breached, some may say this is common sense, but common sense shouldnt come into it, instead i should be able to rely on the MOTD and server rules to guide me, which in this case they did not. DISCLAIMER: i would just like to note i have nothing against these two fine staff members, they do great at their job every day and have served us all well, they made their decision which i can respect and i hold nothing against the two staff for, please keep everything respectful towards anyone involved thank you. RETIRED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nydekore Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 -Support Kinda obvious that if you aren’t breached you shouldn’t be doing that stuff, at least in my opinion Former: Deputy Head of Research | MTF Nu-7 Captain x2 | SCPRP Super Admin | MTF O-1 Major Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STONKSMAN Posted February 19, 2022 Author Share Posted February 19, 2022 16 minutes ago, Nydekore said: -Support Kinda obvious that if you aren’t breached you shouldn’t be doing that stuff, at least in my opinion i understand, but as i said, to me this wasnt obvious and it doesnt state that in the MOTD so i had absolutely no way of knowing whatso ever RETIRED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZJ Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 +support, this has happened before where the MOTD needed more clarification, especially since this is a newer and less used SCP some more clarification is probably needed 1 | SEC Armored Shield 1LT Wardens WC DHFTO | SVFTO Elite Medic | SVFTO Maintenance Expert | Xray 42 | E11 CPL | Nu7 CPL | D5 PVT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItzGray Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Nydekore said: -Support Kinda obvious that if you aren’t breached you shouldn’t be doing that stuff, at least in my opinion Edit: The only thing 079 can really do when breached is just open and close doors and mess with people. So why would 079 be allowed to do the only thing he can do before being breached? Edited February 19, 2022 by ItzGray Current: Former: | RRH Sierra 47 | | E11 LCPL | | MJ | | AR | | Gensec SM | | CI SFC | | CI IA | | M | | Nu7 DHFE Lieutenant Colonel | | HTF A4 Z Viper A4 | | AH1Z Viper | SCP-RP: | Former staff: 6/18/21 -> 11/18/21| | Staff 2x 2/26/22 -> 10/28/22 | | Joined: Apr, 2021~ | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevlar_ Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 -Support It should be pretty obvious but if needed can possibly be "more specific" in the MOTD. Although it should be pretty clear that you cant take control of the foundation opening/locking doors just by hopping on the job. Even the self breaching adverts say "Attempting to connect to foundation systems". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Grayson Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 -Support Not everything needs clarifaction its common sense that you wouldnt be able to mess with doors being being breached EX MAJ In MIL EX A2 In E4 Current VCMDR Of Sarkic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yato Sensei Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 - Support Sorry mate but this just falls under common sense. If your PC is not plugged in, you wouldn't be able to play on it. Same with 079, if it isn't plugged in, you can't do anything. Joined 09/30/2020Retired 11/12/2022Former Security SFC || Former MTF Omi9 MSGT || Former CI CPT/MAJ || Former Nu7 LTCOL/VCMDR || Former E11 CPL || Former Maintenance Professional || Former D5 CPT || Former Senior Medic || Former Advanced Researcher | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piller Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 56 minutes ago, Kevlar_ said: -Support It should be pretty obvious but if needed can possibly be "more specific" in the MOTD. Although it should be pretty clear that you cant take control of the foundation opening/locking doors just by hopping on the job. Even the self breaching adverts say "Attempting to connect to foundation systems". You also admitted that you were wrong, not sure why the warn would be removed as it was legitimate. SCP-RP Head of Staff | Ethics Committee Chairman Former Nu-7 VCMDR l Former GenSec CPT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookieblue Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 - Support This is blatantly looking for loopholes and common sense. Additionally, I point out this paragraph: "Upon successfully connecting to Foundation systems SCP 079 is able to interact with various Foundation systems throughout the Foundation." The doors are systems in the Foundation, meaning they can't be accessed until 079 connects. 2 Retired SCP-RP Head of Staff March 3rd, 2019 - December 16th, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandtoad Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 -support It is impossible for the MOTD to be all encompassing, this just seems like you are attempting to loophole the rules. THE BEST AMPHIBIAN Custom Classes | Cybernetic Protective Unit Owner | A Normal D-Class Owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loaff Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 -support This is just common sense imo and seems like an attempt to circumvent the rules. Former Ranks Head Of Maintenance And Engineering Senior Admin Support Supervisor Forum Diplomat Custom Classes The Sniper (Owner) XG56-Orion's Belt (Owner) The Engineer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief_ Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Denied Head Admin SCP-RP || Event Team Overseer || Ethics Committee || Ex Security FTO 1LT || Ex Security Warden || Ex CI R&D Senior Agent || UMC Guest [LVL 0] || Former Research Researcher || Former DORSU || Former DOC || Former LCZ Manager || I aM sPeCiAl || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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