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Rule Change Suggestion - Making MTF E11 Ambush Specialist follow all other Demolition Rules


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What are you suggesting? - That MTF E11 Ambush Specialist follow all other demolition rules for explosives, placement of explosives and Suicide bombing

How would this change better the server? - This would prevent MTF E11 Ambush Specialist from Running up to CI and Sarkic and putting C4 on their face and Detonating it at point blank range. It would also keep them from planting 4-5 C4 on Gate A door and detonating it as soon as the door opens. Also Disallowing them from putting C4 on Other E11 and having them run at CI/Sarkic.

Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - None, Other branches already follow these rules but E11 have kept sleeping past it for months.

Who would this change mostly benefit? - CI/Dclass/Sarkic/SCPS

Please link any workshop content, screenshots, or anything that you think may be helpful to those who view this suggestion - None

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4 minutes ago, Scooty said:

What are you suggesting? - That MTF E11 Ambush Specialist follow all other demolition rules for explosives, placement of explosives and Suicide bombing

How would this change better the server? - This would prevent MTF E11 Ambush Specialist from Running up to CI and Sarkic and putting C4 on their face and Detonating it at point blank range. It would also keep them from planting 4-5 C4 on Gate A door and detonating it as soon as the door opens. Also Disallowing them from putting C4 on Other E11 and having them run at CI/Sarkic.

Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - None, Other branches already follow these rules but E11 have kept sleeping past it for months.

Who would this change mostly benefit? - CI/Dclass/Sarkic/SCPS

Please link any workshop content, screenshots, or anything that you think may be helpful to those who view this suggestion - None

-Support
Kamikaze bombing is already forbidden
Ambush has limited C4 so they should be allowed to detonate after opening the door 
Ambush isnt strong like you are describing it, nerfing it would make it a dead class 

 

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Just now, Sia lodato il SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLE said:

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Kamikaze bombing is already forbidden
Ambush has limited C4 so they should be allowed to detonate after opening the door 
Ambush isnt strong like you are describing it, nerfing it would make it a dead class 

 

Ive been told in a Sit that E11 Has no rule restricting it, therefore its in the suggestion

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-Support. here's my reasons

"This would prevent MTF E11 Ambush Specialist from Running up to CI and Sarkic and putting C4 on their face and Detonating it at point blank range"
This is already a rule... its Suicide Bombing you aren't allowed to do it

"It would also keep them from planting 4-5 C4 on Gate A door and detonating it as soon as the door opens"
This is literally the point of the class. he is the "Ambush Specialist". he sets up an ambush with C4 taking out a good amount of CI, as a way to counter this you can send in an Infiltrator or open the door and back up.

"Also Disallowing them from putting C4 on Other E11 and having them run at CI/Sarkic."
This is a rule, Not allowed

While this may not seem like enough to some. remember Ambush only gets 5 C4 and one M9K Sticky Grenade, he doesn't have an infinite amount. him doing that would drain his supply of explosives faster than an edgy joke gets you cancelled on twitter

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-Support.

All reason you’re giving are either what the job is supposed to do, or rules that are already in place.

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So just trying to make Ambush Specialist no longer able to ambush?

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32 minutes ago, Georgie_ said:

-Support.

All reason you’re giving are either what the job is supposed to do, or rules that are already in place.

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2 hours ago, Georgie_ said:

-Support.

All reason you’re giving are either what the job is supposed to do, or rules that are already in place.

 

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"This would prevent MTF E11 Ambush Specialist from Running up to CI and Sarkic and putting C4 on their face and Detonating it at point blank range"

"Also Disallowing them from putting C4 on Other E11 and having them run at CI/Sarkic."
Like other have said, the rules you are suggesting are already in place, if someone if breaking them talk to E11 CMD or staff to get it sorted.

"It would also keep them from planting 4-5 C4 on Gate A door and detonating it as soon as the door opens"
There are ways around this using infiltrators, sending in a smaller group first, and being spaced out while entering site.

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4 hours ago, PandaInShitpostLand said:

-Support. here's my reasons

"This would prevent MTF E11 Ambush Specialist from Running up to CI and Sarkic and putting C4 on their face and Detonating it at point blank range"
This is already a rule... its Suicide Bombing you aren't allowed to do it

"It would also keep them from planting 4-5 C4 on Gate A door and detonating it as soon as the door opens"
This is literally the point of the class. he is the "Ambush Specialist". he sets up an ambush with C4 taking out a good amount of CI, as a way to counter this you can send in an Infiltrator or open the door and back up.

"Also Disallowing them from putting C4 on Other E11 and having them run at CI/Sarkic."
This is a rule, Not allowed

While this may not seem like enough to some. remember Ambush only gets 5 C4 and one M9K Sticky Grenade, he doesn't have an infinite amount. him doing that would drain his supply of explosives faster than an edgy joke gets you cancelled on twitter

If you see someone strapping C4 to E-11 or any other MTF personnel you should just bring that up with E-11 HCMD as there is already a rule in place where u can get blacklisted from ambush specialist if you're caught attaching C-4 to MTF Personnel. Suicide bombing is also against the rules  as well and can also get your blacklisted from the job.

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.1 Your first point: Counts as suicide bombing (Already against rules) (Class specific > All players > Rule 13)
.2 Your second point: Also against rules, your not allowed to set explosives at commonly travelled areas without RP reason  (Class specific > All players > Rule 15) (VALID RP Reason could be: MTF spots CI heading to Gate A/B and Ambush specialist heads over and sets up explosive)
.3 Your third point: Prohibited by E-11 command, as we have deemed it suicide bombing. Any Ambush Specialist you catch doing this, grab their steam ID, and proof, send it to E-11 CMD and they most likely won't be able to play the job any longer

 

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8 hours ago, Scooty said:

Ive been told in a Sit that E11 Has no rule restricting it, therefore its in the suggestion

Then the person who told you this is very silly and should read the rules or get re train by e11 

34 minutes ago, ripjaw56789 said:

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.1 Your first point: Counts as suicide bombing (Already against rules) (Class specific > All players > Rule 13)
.2 Your second point: Also against rules, your not allowed to set explosives at commonly travelled areas without RP reason  (Class specific > All players > Rule 15) (VALID RP Reason could be: MTF spots CI heading to Gate A/B and Ambush specialist heads over and sets up explosive)
.3 Your third point: Prohibited by E-11 command, as we have deemed it suicide bombing. Any Ambush Specialist you catch doing this, grab their steam ID, and proof, send it to E-11 CMD and they most likely won't be able to play the job any longer

To add the first point no they cannot place a c4 on a person body because that person can jump in the acid and will spawn back with the bombs or they can go somewhere and tell you to detonate it and you can accidently cause a bunch of players killed for example;  (you plant c4's on a d class and you tell them to rush ci they go, but the d class will instead go to d block where 20 gensec are there and will tell you to detonating it killing a bunch of gensec) 

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9 hours ago, Mary said:

-Support 

You are basically trying to take the “Ambush” out of “Ambush Specialist.”

Maybe if you guys learned what priority targeting is, you could take out the Spec before he even gets close to you. If he plants his C4, run back? Or maybe take the time to check the room you are trying to push in before actually being in it. Utilize infils to scout ahead of you and report C4 too? Like I don't know why the class has to suffer when you can very easily counter it.

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