035-1 change - Denied

[Boulder Puncher]

Post name: 035-1 change

What are you suggesting? -  to make it so you get the playermodel and loadout of the person you possessed, similar to 8286 but with a mask on the face of them and a loudout of the person.

How would this change better the server? -  i think it would make 035-1 have a little more chance as sometimes when you get your minions they just dont fire at all and just run around aimlessly and do no help to attack the people attacking you(035-1), so it would be much better if you could get the guns of the people you possess so you can fight your own fight instead of relying on others to do your work for you.

Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. -  Nope, feel free to tell me some down below

Who would this change mostly benefit? -  035-1 players

Please link any workshop content, screenshots, or anything that you think may be helpful to those who view this suggestion - N/A

[CyClone]

+- support

so for the loadout i say +support i believe it would help 035-1 alot instead of having to go to the armoury every time.

-support for the model change, as it would be really cool that would mean you would need a separate model for every infected individual but if smt can find a way to make it without having to need separate models then +support

[Warthog]

1 hour ago, CyClone said:

+- support

so for the loadout i say +support i believe it would help 035-1 alot instead of having to go to the armoury every time.

-support for the model change, as it would be really cool that would mean you would need a separate model for every infected individual but if smt can find a way to make it without having to need separate models then +support

+support for the general suggestion and the model change

They could do a compromise for the model changing (adding the mask on them) which would be:

-Class D

-researcher/CI RND (this is the default model)

-security (the enlisted skins with a mask)

-mtf forces (any model could work I guess)

-CI military (the alpha/beta agent)

[Right Twix Bar]

So, there would have to be a new model, FOR EVERY CLASS (CCs included), with a mask on it. The time this would take and the ABSOLUTE amount of fucking data this would take, could cripple the server.
As for the loadout, why? 035 already gets the person WHO STILL HAS ALL THEIR SHIT. And, if you turn more than like three people, you're going to have an array of cards, guns, and just general shit.
AND not even 8286 gets the loadout of a person. AND the coding involved would be a lot.

I think the current 035-1 model is perfect. Any more would just put a needless burden on the server.
035 already has control over the 035-1, who still has their stuff. So, no point in giving 035 their stuff too. 

-Support

Edited November 11, 2021 by Right Twix Bar

[Yato Sensei]

5 minutes ago, Right Twix Bar said:

So, there would have to be a new model, FOR EVERY CLASS (CCs included), with a mask on it. The time this would take and the ABSOLUTE amount of fucking data this would take, could cripple the server.
As for the loadout, why? 035 already gets the person WHO STILL HAS ALL THEIR SHIT. And, if you turn more than like three people, you're going to have an array of cards, guns, and just general shit.
AND not even 8286 gets the loadout of a person. AND the coding involved would be a lot.

I think the current 035-1 model is perfect. Any more would just put a needless burden on the server.
035 already has control over the 035-1, who still has their stuff. So, no point in giving 035 their stuff too. 

-Support

The model idea is cool but god damn the space it would take for those models.

- Support

[Piller]

11 minutes ago, Right Twix Bar said:

So, there would have to be a new model, FOR EVERY CLASS (CCs included), with a mask on it. The time this would take and the ABSOLUTE amount of fucking data this would take, could cripple the server.
As for the loadout, why? 035 already gets the person WHO STILL HAS ALL THEIR SHIT. And, if you turn more than like three people, you're going to have an array of cards, guns, and just general shit.
AND not even 8286 gets the loadout of a person. AND the coding involved would be a lot.

I think the current 035-1 model is perfect. Any more would just put a needless burden on the server.
035 already has control over the 035-1, who still has their stuff. So, no point in giving 035 their stuff too. 

-Support

Yeah, this simply isn't worth the resources for pretty much a cosmetic change and a load out. The models are fine as is and you can buy stuff from the armory or use your army.

-Support

[Loaff]

44 minutes ago, Right Twix Bar said:

So, there would have to be a new model, FOR EVERY CLASS (CCs included), with a mask on it. The time this would take and the ABSOLUTE amount of fucking data this would take, could cripple the server.
As for the loadout, why? 035 already gets the person WHO STILL HAS ALL THEIR SHIT. And, if you turn more than like three people, you're going to have an array of cards, guns, and just general shit.
AND not even 8286 gets the loadout of a person. AND the coding involved would be a lot.

I think the current 035-1 model is perfect. Any more would just put a needless burden on the server.
035 already has control over the 035-1, who still has their stuff. So, no point in giving 035 their stuff too. 

-Support

Perfectly put by Twix here: the file size on the server and effort required by Gaminglight's development staff and management would be monumental, all for one SCP. 

[a_krew10]

3 hours ago, Right Twix Bar said:

 

I think the current 035-1 model is perfect. Any more would just put a needless burden on the server.

-Support

 

[Veesus]

Why does anyone think you'd need additional models?

You can just bonemerge an 035 mask model whenever you want. That's how hats and cosmetics work in the source engine and it would work the same in gmod.

4 hours ago, Right Twix Bar said:

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AND not even 8286 gets the loadout of a person. AND the coding involved would be a lot.

...

-Support

As for idea that there would be a lot of coding involved this is simply untrue. It's trivial to take a list of a players weapons and give them to another player.

+Support

I think this would streamline 035 quite a bit and make it more fun to play, even if a little less mechanically interesting.

[Demon Dice]

8 hours ago, Right Twix Bar said:

So, there would have to be a new model, FOR EVERY CLASS (CCs included), with a mask on it. The time this would take and the ABSOLUTE amount of fucking data this would take, could cripple the server.
As for the loadout, why? 035 already gets the person WHO STILL HAS ALL THEIR SHIT. And, if you turn more than like three people, you're going to have an array of cards, guns, and just general shit.
AND not even 8286 gets the loadout of a person. AND the coding involved would be a lot.

I think the current 035-1 model is perfect. Any more would just put a needless burden on the server.
035 already has control over the 035-1, who still has their stuff. So, no point in giving 035 their stuff too. 

-Support

 

8 hours ago, Pillercat said:

Yeah, this simply isn't worth the resources for pretty much a cosmetic change and a load out. The models are fine as is and you can buy stuff from the armory or use your army.

-Support

 

[Right Twix Bar]

5 hours ago, Veesus said:

You can just bonemerge an 035 mask model whenever you want. That's how hats and cosmetics work in the source engine and it would work the same in gmod.

 

5 hours ago, Veesus said:

As for idea that there would be a lot of coding involved this is simply untrue. It's trivial to take a list of a players weapons and give them to another player

 

So, give me one good reason he needs the models or loadout of another player. 

The model would do jack shit. It's not going to be 8286 where you can be disguised because, you know, the mask. And, there's no way in hell that it would fit every model well. And, how would he get the body? By killing the person? You would just make a pure combative 8286.

And, you still have a person to do what you say. Have them open checkpoints or fight. And, your inventory would be absolutely cluttered with cards and guns (as I've said) which would just be annoying. 

And there's still going to be some toll this stuff takes on the server. 

I just feel it's more hassle than it's worth. 

Maintaining my -Support

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In Progress!

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We attempted to make a new swep with 035 but sadly it resulted in a very laggy and un-optimized system which needed to be removed from the server. I will look into trying to fix this system but for now i will be making this post as denied. 

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Denied. The SCP-RP SMT has decided against adding this suggestion for performance reasons, the benefit to the server, or another unstated reason.