Pope Mobile Door Gunner Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) Your In-game: Johnny Richmond Your SteamID: 18595695 The admin's name in-game: Site Director Weiss The admin's steam name (If you know it): No clue, never interacted with him What did the admin do: I was given a verbal warning about advertising as Dclass (which I did not know to be a rule in the half year+ I've been playing on the server until another player warned me before being put in the sit), I then stated that I would comply with the rules and that I had been playing a little loosely today since this is my last day playing video games for a year (in the Army and being deployed), I was then given a !warn, and I feel that the only reason that I was punished was that my tone was not submissive enough for Weiss and he decided to ruin my clean clean record for it. What I am not proud of is that I became very irritated after my record was ruined and I let it show, I take pride in my clean record and good interactions with administration in sits. Evidence of the abusive action(s) (REQUIRED): https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/4IY8mjv8aiy4D/cpoa2b3P1MZi?invite=cr-MSxWSGIsMjk2MDcwNTUs What do you believe should happen to the admin: I think that he simply be subjected to an opinion other than his own on his decision. In my opinion he went on a power trip and it was unnecessary. Any extra information: I had no option to rate my experience in this sit, it was 3 stars at best (given I have no knowledge of Admin SOP) and think that all admins should be subject to a review no matter what their rank is. Edited October 31, 2021 by Pope Mobile Door Gunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FusionThunder Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) +/- I’d like to hear @Weiss’s input on this before going one way or the other. you did come across as rude though also, thats the wrong format for your steamID theyre normally formatted like STEAM_0:1:246681057 Edited October 31, 2021 by FusionThunder 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nydekore Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 -Support He never said he would be giving you a verbal unless I'm mishearing. Also, I understand wanting to keep your record clean but this is not the first incident I've seen of you being rude or otherwise disruptive to gameplay. Former: Deputy Head of Research | MTF Nu-7 Captain x2 | SCPRP Super Admin | MTF O-1 Major Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olbap Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) - support You acted very rude towards Weiss. And in the Medal Clip you provided, show's nothing bad that Weiss did. Edited October 31, 2021 by Olbap Current | Assistant Maintenance Manager | Red Right Hand Engineer | CI SPA | ▅▅ ▅▅▅ Sub-Branches | HLPR Bot - Mobile Mop Force - | Senior Containment Specialist | CI Field Researcher | CI Bio-Engineer Former: RRA Professor, Research Supervisor, Red Right Hand Analyst, Sec SGT & CI SFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandtoad Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 -support At the rank of Super Admin (Weiss’s rank) you are allowed to handle your own situations But even so, this was not Weiss’s situation. He saw you adverting as d-class in chat and brought you. A moderator would have been able to do that as well. THE BEST AMPHIBIAN Custom Classes | Cybernetic Protective Unit Owner | A Normal D-Class Owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piller Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 -Support 1. Weiss, like any other staff member, is encouraged and able to use discretion when taking a sit. 2. You admitted to playing loosely with the rules, thus you were not following them to the fullest extent. 3. You were incredibly rude, which does affect if you get a verbal or a formal warning. I see no reason for this warn to be overturned. SCP-RP Head of Staff | Ethics Committee Chairman Former Nu-7 VCMDR l Former GenSec CPT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumpTruck Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Just now, Pillercat said: -Support 1. Weiss, like any other staff member, is encouraged and able to use discretion when taking a sit. 2. You admitted to playing loosely with the rules, thus you were not following them to the fullest extent. 3. You were incredibly rude, which does affect if you get a verbal or a formal warning. I see no reason for this warn to be overturned. Former RRH Analyst X-ray 39 Former D1 Deimos I Former DDOP of RnD [CC's] Deadshot-Engineer-Snoop Dog-MTF-Alpha-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 hour ago, islandtoad said: -support At the rank of Super Admin (Weiss’s rank) you are allowed to handle your own situations But even so, this was not Weiss’s situation. He saw you adverting as d-class in chat and brought you. A moderator would have been able to do that as well. That is not true. No staff member is allowed to take sits involving themselves. If it's something like mass racism or in this circumstance, adverting as Class-D for no reason, you can. However, in this situation, I believe this warning is fair; staff use their discretion on when they want to warn.-Support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandtoad Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 7 minutes ago, Starstep said: That is not true. No staff member is allowed to take sits involving themselves. If it's something like mass racism or in this circumstance, adverting as Class-D for no reason, you can. However, in this situation, I believe this warning is fair; staff use their discretion on when they want to warn.-Support Senior Admins are trusted members of the staff team that have been here for a large amount of time. They are able to independently handle their own situations with limited assistance from higher staff. They are not required to be on duty to administrate. Helps supervise lower ranks, and reports any misconduct to a Super Admin, who can then report it to SMT. Quote from the Staff Handbook. I would assume Super Admins would have more "power" than Senior Admins in all regards. THE BEST AMPHIBIAN Custom Classes | Cybernetic Protective Unit Owner | A Normal D-Class Owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Mobile Door Gunner Posted October 31, 2021 Author Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Pillercat said: -Support 1. Weiss, like any other staff member, is encouraged and able to use discretion when taking a sit. 2. You admitted to playing loosely with the rules, thus you were not following them to the fullest extent. 3. You were incredibly rude, which does affect if you get a verbal or a formal warning. I see no reason for this warn to be overturned. Incredibly rude at what point? When my spotless record was ruined after I've literally taken people to countless RDM sits for them to only ever be given a verbal!? Yes I absolutely got upset about that. This has gone exactly as I expected it would. I ask people to question the actions of their superior and they entirely side with their superior because siding against a superior would literally ruin the career of anyone who wishes to attain the same rank. Whoever controls the forums, feel free to lock the thread, I'll be gone serving the country in two days anyway and anyone who supports me isn't going to say a damn thing. Edited October 31, 2021 by Pope Mobile Door Gunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyara Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 13 hours ago, Pillercat said: -Support 1. Weiss, like any other staff member, is encouraged and able to use discretion when taking a sit. 2. You admitted to playing loosely with the rules, thus you were not following them to the fullest extent. 3. You were incredibly rude, which does affect if you get a verbal or a formal warning. I see no reason for this warn to be overturned. Former Nu7 Command Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old parkland Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 13 hours ago, Pope Mobile Door Gunner said: Incredibly rude at what point? When my spotless record was ruined after I've literally taken people to countless RDM sits for them to only ever be given a verbal!? Yes I absolutely got upset about that. This has gone exactly as I expected it would. I ask people to question the actions of their superior and they entirely side with their superior because siding against a superior would literally ruin the career of anyone who wishes to attain the same rank. Whoever controls the forums, feel free to lock the thread, I'll be gone serving the country in two days anyway and anyone who supports me isn't going to say a damn thing. -support You were rude, and if not rude, sarcastic asf, at 0:39 seconds, you said something along these lines 'oooo (shakes screen) big(bit) fucking worried' after Weiss had responded with 'a warn will be issued' ^this is why everyone is mentioning that you were rude. https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/4IY8mjv8aiy4D/jXiihTf31Cyz?invite=cr-MSx6ekcsMjA2OTM0MDMs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookieblue Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Staff Report Dispostion After reviewing the staff report in question, this report is being denied, and no action will be taken against the staff member in question. The reporting player is accusing Super Admin Weiss of being unprofessional in a sit and going on a "power trip". After reviewing the video of the incident, as well as the reporting player's statements, there is no evidence that Weiss engaged in any behavior that is considered disrespectful. Administrators of all ranks, from Trial Moderators to the Server Managers are encouraged to use their discretion when issuing warnings to players. This is because many factors can go into deciding whether a player is issued a warnings. These factors can include the type of alleged offense, the previous history of the player, the player's attitude in the sit, and other factors. I have been involved in countless sits in which my plan is to issue someone a verbal warning for an incident and they then earn a formal warning, and it appears this was the case in this incident. I see no evidence showing that Weiss engaged in misconduct, nor evidence that the warning itself is invalid. 22 hours ago, Pope Mobile Door Gunner said: This has gone exactly as I expected it would. I ask people to question the actions of their superior and they entirely side with their superior because siding against a superior would literally ruin the career of anyone who wishes to attain the same rank. I would like to address this specific comment, because it shows that you don't actually understand the process behind the scenes, nor some of our most recent incidents involving several high ranking staff members that were called out for unprofessional behavior by other staff members and members of this community and resulted in them being removed from their positions or demoted. I highly encourage people to call out staff members that aren't living up to the standards that I, the other SCP SMT, and the overall GL Community set, and no one is above those standards. The simple fact of the matter is that this incident is not one of staff misconduct. 4 Retired SCP-RP Head of Staff March 3rd, 2019 - December 16th, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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