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What are you suggesting? - Adding a roll to the Containment Specialist SOP to cut or break through a lockdown door. In this example, a CS would @ to call for a sit, roll (60+?) and upon a successful roll, the admin can move the CS through the lockdown door. (JUST the CS), others can assist with the roll, but the hole is only large enough for the CS to get through. As of now, once you hit MP and ME rank on maintenance, the CS role become irrelevant because you have full access into HCZ, and switching to CS just wastes time. 

If not a roll, perhaps a CS can advert for cutting through each Lockdown Door similar to an SCP- (50% per minute?) It'll still take some time to get to EZ. (Allowing MTF Engineer time to lift the lockdown if they are available)

How would this change better the server? - This would allow maintenance to perform their duties in EZ while there is a lockdown in effect. Too frequently I find that if a lockdown occurs and the lights go out, you can plan on the lights being out for 30~ minutes. 

Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - The only disadvantage that I can see is, if CS has the ability to move through Lockdown doors, that would somewhat negate the MTF Engineer role. However, the Engineer would still be very useful, because if there is one active it can still save time- as there are SEVERAL lockdown doors between LCZ and EZ. 

Who would this change mostly benefit? - Players who have the Containment Specialist whitelist, and the whole facility during lockdowns.

Obviously, the balancing and rules provided above are speculative in nature and can be adjusted as needed or as seen fit.


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               This seems like a good idea. But those doors are there for a reason. They don't close and open singularly, they open all at once which is a problem. They're meant for emergency SCP overrun in certain situations even CI if I'm not mistaken. You would need permission from a MTF command If that would ravage their mission. Then If not a problem, have a firing line behind that person on that door that is breaking the door open. If they didn't all open at once I think it would be a great idea but I'm going to have to disagree. Maybe something for the future which would be cool a great advantage to MTF.

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We did this during Minge hours and an admin teleported us through it was cool if there was a better method other then bringing then +support also I hope you enjoyed those guns minge ❤️

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I'm pretty sure this is already a thing, I've seen CS's do it. You can ask Lo Wang about it, he's quite good with the rolls.

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1 hour ago, Yato Sensei said:

I'm pretty sure this is already a thing, I've seen CS's do it. You can ask Lo Wang about it, he's quite good with the rolls.

 

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This suggestion is done through rp. There are things you can do that don't require it to be an actual server addition. For example cutting down lockdown checkpoints is possible but it is technically up to the admin to determine what roll is best.

In short you can do stuff in rp as long as it's not powergaming 

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1 hour ago, Some Weeb said:

This suggestion is done through rp. There are things you can do that don't require it to be an actual server addition. For example cutting down lockdown checkpoints is possible but it is technically up to the admin to determine what roll is best.

In short you can do stuff in rp as long as it's not powergaming 

well some admins decide that it is just not a thing.

5 hours ago, Yato Sensei said:

I'm pretty sure this is already a thing, I've seen CS's do it. You can ask Lo Wang about it, he's quite good with the rolls.

it is technically not but it makes sense in RP

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I believe it'll work.

Let's say for example:

-A Containment Specialist can use his tools to pry open the Lockdown Doors (65+ Roll.)
In addition to this,  a 5+ minute wait timer (If he fails the roll.)

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I will start off with what makes it a bit negative:
- They are blast doors, designed to withstand explosive devices
- Have actual usage on the MTF side and not just for CI to sabotage

Support Side:
- Wouldn't mind seeing this added in with a HIGH roll and a long cooldown for fails (Cause its well, a blast door)

Recommend:
- 75+ role
- 10-15 minute cooldown between failed attempts

Reasons:
- 75+ role seeing as "Cutting through" would technically open it up for anyone who wishes to go through
- Longer repair cooldown due to the fact that its quite litterally a blast door designed to withstand these types of attacks and explosives.

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While this is already technically possible in RP; The server would benefit by having the circumstances of when and how this could be done written in stone. 

While it is true that all the doors open as one, it could be circumvented by teleporting the individual through. This would greatly benefit maintenance's ability to respond to CI breaking lockdown, as currently anyone not already in EZ cant do anything about it. 

While these are blast doors, anyone with enough time could get through any material with a plasma or an oxy torch, specifically Oxy/Acetylene cutting torches could cut through about 12 inches of steel. 

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I'm gonna say -support for an actual addon but I think it would be really cool in the next map update if they added a tunnel system so you could go from utility bunks all the way to the power room but unable to go back through the tunnels 

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On 10/21/2021 at 12:08 PM, ripjaw56789 said:

Recommend:
- 75+ role
- 10-15 minute cooldown between failed attempts

Reasons:
- 75+ role seeing as "Cutting through" would technically open it up for anyone who wishes to go through
- Longer repair cooldown due to the fact that its quite litterally a blast door designed to withstand these types of attacks and explosives.

@Chief_ I'm good with this if you want to add it to the next MOTD update.

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