Nao Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 What you want to see? - The rule where if you have your gun on safety you cannot be put under Fear RP for muggings or kidnappings to be removed. Why should we add it? - It makes no RP sense not to surrender to someone who has a gun out ready to fire as someone with a gun down and on safety. It only makes sense if you have your gun up and ready against someone. The part where you can't put someone under Fear RP with a gun on safety is still good though. What are the advantages of having this? - More realistic RP encounters. Who is it mainly for? - Criminals. Links to any content - None. Just want to know what you guys think of this. No it's not "Nano" or "Noah" it's just "Nao" EX S.W.A.T Commander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cecil Stedmen Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 - Support While I disagree with the above suggestion, I think it should have a clearly defined ratio so people can better understand what outnumbered means to better follow the rules Former SCPRP: CI R&D Chief Director of Operations || Research Administrator || RFA Operations Advisory || RRH Analyst Xray 77 || CI General || Senior Event Team || CI Lieutenant Commander || Exemplary Investigator Award Recipient || STF D4 Poseidon PL7 || A1 SPC "Quantum" Former ImperialRP: Naval Captain || Security Director || GM VI Former PoliceRP: EMS Captain || RRU Rapid Response Team Manager || FBI Assistant Director Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Newsom Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 -Support If you have a gun out you cant be mugged/kidnapped. This is mostly for this you are out numbered In the MOTD "If the person has a gun out, you cannot kidnap" Ex PoliceRP- Senior Admin & Senior Event Team | Ex Support | Ex Fourm Diplomat | EX SWAT Commander | EX UMC Mercenary Leader | Ex OG General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceyBoyo Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 -Support Pretty sure the whole point is that your gun is very close to being ready to fire, at that point we might as well say you can FearRP the entire SWAT team because their guns aren't aimed at you so you can shoot first. Also, in RP it's unlikely you can see whether a gun is or isn't safetied - the point is you're just holding it, not aiming it. This would essentially mean that aiming your gun randomly around the place made you more ready to fire than holding it otherwise. Realistically you just need to re-aim the gun a little and you're in a standoff. From a gameplay perspective this would also mean effectively that you could kidnap pretty much any government official at any time anywhere unless you were actively being held at gunpoint by them. Also, the fact that you can have a gun not out but also not on safety would mean that with this rule change, you'd be able to reach into your pocket, grab hold of an assault rifle or LMG that you store in it, pull it all the way out and aim it towards someone faster than they can just aim at you. It's worth noting that you can just bring backup, order the person to put their gun away under FearRP and then kidnap them. Deputy Commissioner of Police Former SCO19 Chief Constable | Reserve HRT Commander | Reserve FBI Assistant Director Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mag1c Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) -Support I believe it is good the way it is. Edited August 28, 2021 by Mag1c State Command | SPRT Commander | PoliceRP Super Admin | SS Agent | FBI Agent | Umbrella Corp Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Mag1c said: -Support I believe it is good the way it is. UMC l SS Assistant SAIC l SWAT PFC l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvp_Savage6767 Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 3 hours ago, Cecil Stedmen said: - Support While I disagree with the above suggestion, I think it should have a clearly defined ratio so people can better understand what outnumbered means to better follow the rules But i think it’s find the way the system is currently though to add onto what Cecil said.. slims and example with ratio would be good otherwise nothing else should be changed really tbh FBI SAIC PD CPL Member since September of 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indicud Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 -Support Pulling out a gun is one thing, this is an action that takes a lot longer than simply raising your firearm and switching off safety. With that being said the MOTD could use a quick amend to further explain Fear RP rules. I have seen sits where one doesn't understand what it means to be outnumbered, I have also seen sits where one doesn't understand that even if you have a gun out and there are gov on scene all pointing guns at you and you have not shot yet then you must put the weapon down. PD SM DF 1LT UMC LVL5 O O (this is supposed to be a police car) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 8 hours ago, BruceyBoyo said: -Support Pretty sure the whole point is that your gun is very close to being ready to fire, at that point we might as well say you can FearRP the entire SWAT team because their guns aren't aimed at you so you can shoot first. Also, in RP it's unlikely you can see whether a gun is or isn't safetied - the point is you're just holding it, not aiming it. This would essentially mean that aiming your gun randomly around the place made you more ready to fire than holding it otherwise. Realistically you just need to re-aim the gun a little and you're in a standoff. From a gameplay perspective this would also mean effectively that you could kidnap pretty much any government official at any time anywhere unless you were actively being held at gunpoint by them. Also, the fact that you can have a gun not out but also not on safety would mean that with this rule change, you'd be able to reach into your pocket, grab hold of an assault rifle or LMG that you store in it, pull it all the way out and aim it towards someone faster than they can just aim at you. It's worth noting that you can just bring backup, order the person to put their gun away under FearRP and then kidnap them. PD Low Command (MAJ) | State Command (LT) | SCU MSGT | Armed Diver CC | Rockford County Deputy CC | $400 Donator UMC LVL 1 | FBI SA | PoliceRP Moderator | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darby Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 On 8/29/2021 at 1:44 AM, BruceyBoyo said: -Support Pretty sure the whole point is that your gun is very close to being ready to fire, at that point we might as well say you can FearRP the entire SWAT team because their guns aren't aimed at you so you can shoot first. Also, in RP it's unlikely you can see whether a gun is or isn't safetied - the point is you're just holding it, not aiming it. This would essentially mean that aiming your gun randomly around the place made you more ready to fire than holding it otherwise. Realistically you just need to re-aim the gun a little and you're in a standoff. From a gameplay perspective this would also mean effectively that you could kidnap pretty much any government official at any time anywhere unless you were actively being held at gunpoint by them. Also, the fact that you can have a gun not out but also not on safety would mean that with this rule change, you'd be able to reach into your pocket, grab hold of an assault rifle or LMG that you store in it, pull it all the way out and aim it towards someone faster than they can just aim at you. It's worth noting that you can just bring backup, order the person to put their gun away under FearRP and then kidnap them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burner Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 -Support IRL situation if my gun is on safety and out. I'm shooting back or first Gaminglight:$2200+ Donations | Gaminglight Legend | Community Member since April 2020 "Don’t cry because it’s over. Smile because it happened.” – Dr. Seuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternity Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Denied. The SMT team for this server has decided against adding this suggestion for performance reasons, the benefit to the server, or another unstated reason. PoliceRP Manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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