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What are you suggesting? - Allowing 912 to enter armory

How would this change better the server? -  912 is suppose to stop d-class, and SCP's are not suppose to go into armory, which I understand but in this case I think them getting weapons should over-rule that rule. If 912 were to spot d-class in the armory he should should be able to go in and try and stop them.

One of the main reasons I would like to see this changed is not only that I got warned for this, but it just seems to make sense logically.

Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? This would be a disadvantage to d-class.

Who would this change mostly benefit? -  The facility as a whole and 912

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SCP-912 isn't allowed to kill individuals, only cuff those who aren't MTF/GENSEC that have guns.

Letting it do this is just pointless, and it makes an already slightly annoying SCP into a nightmare if the player is dedicated enough.

500 health with 200 something armour + gun = not balanced.

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1 hour ago, Jummy said:

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SCP-912 isn't allowed to kill individuals, only cuff those who aren't MTF/GENSEC that have guns.

Letting it do this is just pointless, and it makes an already slightly annoying SCP into a nightmare if the player is dedicated enough.

500 health with 200 something armour + gun = not balanced.

Yea what he said ^ 912 entering armory would be horrible.

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I was never suggesting he is able to get a gun... simply being able to enter the armory... to STOP d-class did either of you even read what I suggested? Besides even though it isn't a rule, I doubt anything has stopped minges from going in there and getting a gun anyways. He only has a level 1 keycard for a reason. He would only be allowed in the armory if he catches someone unfriendly enter.

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2 hours ago, Jummy said:

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SCP-912 isn't allowed to kill individuals, only cuff those who aren't MTF/GENSEC that have guns.

Letting it do this is just pointless, and it makes an already slightly annoying SCP into a nightmare if the player is dedicated enough.

500 health with 200 something armour + gun = not balanced.

i find that allowing 912 into the armory would lead to either mass rdm, helping d class, or getting a gun in general.  He is also powerful enough especially the arrest baton. 

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People arent allowed to shoot at scps from any area they cant go into, from armory to d block. The issue with 912 is that from a distance especially with newer players they just see "vaguely cop shaped enemy" and light him up. The solution to this however is not to let 912 barrel into armory. 

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14 hours ago, Blood Stream said:

I was never suggesting he is able to get a gun... simply being able to enter the armory... to STOP d-class did either of you even read what I suggested? Besides even though it isn't a rule, I doubt anything has stopped minges from going in there and getting a gun anyways. He only has a level 1 keycard for a reason. He would only be allowed in the armory if he catches someone unfriendly enter.

I have a strong feeling that 912 players would ONLY use this to camp D-Class, so even if he could NOT get guns whilst in armory, still wouldn't like it.

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912 Is meant to STOP and ARREST D-Class and GOI who have guns out, if D-Class/CI are in armory with guns it would make sense for 912 to enter and arrest them. Additionally if 912 is camping armory staff could just be called. 

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912 is too broken with his arrest baton., I don't think it's necessary. If a dclass is firing inside armory calls staff, I thought this was already a rule.

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23 minutes ago, Sixx said:

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912 Is meant to STOP and ARREST D-Class and GOI who have guns out, if D-Class/CI are in armory with guns it would make sense for 912 to enter and arrest them. Additionally if 912 is camping armory staff could just be called. 

I 100% agree. 

Also why do people think that the suggestion is to allow him to grab guns? It isn't stated that he should be allowed. 

Anyways if he grabs a gun he will be warned for failrp(Buying Weapons as scp's). As that is not allowed. 

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13 hours ago, Sixx said:

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912 Is meant to STOP and ARREST D-Class and GOI who have guns out, if D-Class/CI are in armory with guns it would make sense for 912 to enter and arrest them. Additionally if 912 is camping armory staff could just be called. 

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On 6/5/2021 at 3:09 AM, Jummy said:

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SCP-912 isn't allowed to kill individuals, only cuff those who aren't MTF/GENSEC that have guns.

Letting it do this is just pointless, and it makes an already slightly annoying SCP into a nightmare if the player is dedicated enough.

500 health with 200 something armour + gun = not balanced.

 

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On 6/5/2021 at 3:09 AM, Jummy said:

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SCP-912 isn't allowed to kill individuals, only cuff those who aren't MTF/GENSEC that have guns.

Letting it do this is just pointless, and it makes an already slightly annoying SCP into a nightmare if the player is dedicated enough.

500 health with 200 something armour + gun = not balanced.

 

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On 6/5/2021 at 11:53 AM, Sixx said:

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912 Is meant to STOP and ARREST D-Class and GOI who have guns out, if D-Class/CI are in armory with guns it would make sense for 912 to enter and arrest them. Additionally if 912 is camping armory staff could just be called. 

Nuff said

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Well due to the general rules of SCP's not being allowed into armory, I kind of doubt it would be changed.

Second, this would probably get SCP-912 killed (I believe hes killable).


And third, D-Class already get pissed when an SCP, MTF, or GENSEC run next to them, what makes you think they would be happy with SCP-912 running in there, cuffing them?

 

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Nice to see this has gotten some great debates going with this SCP, although I support,this, I understand where the negative support is coming from. Hopefully there is some other resolution that can be had from this, possibly the defcon or something effecting if he can enter or not? Don't just -support come up with other or better solutions 😄

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