Doggo0 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) What are you suggesting? - Changing a rule for 912 Current rule for 912:SCP 912 may attack any personnel that is not GENSEC or MTF that are armed with weapons with its stun baton until they put the weapon away. Suggested rule:SCP 912 may attack any non-combatant that is not currently defending themselves or non-foundation personnel that are armed with weapons with its stun baton until they put the weapon away. How would this change better the server? - Non MTF/gensec combatant jobs could have guns out even when 912 is on. Right now, 912 can arrest anyone from utility and research even if they're trying to defend themselves, and I've been arrested multiple times today because of this rule. Also this way 912 wouldn't waste time arresting foundation when he could be helping D block. Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - None that I can think of Who would this change mostly benefit? - Utility, Research and combatant jobs Please link any workshop content, screenshots, or anything that you think may be helpful to those who view this suggestion - N/A Edited February 6, 2021 by Doggo0 SCPRP Director of Logistics, Event Team | Former Nu7 2LT, Former Senior Admin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillers Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) -Support, would get us effectively another immortal doorstop. Seems better after edit. +Support. Edited February 6, 2021 by Phillers "Without morals, are we truly any better than the things we've set ourselves to contain?" EX-Site Director | EX-Super Admin | EX-Event Team Lead | Otter Lover | Regardless of what SMT Says, not a furry. | R&D Senior Inspector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loaff Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 +support Honestly the rule was poorly written in the first place, should've said that originally. Also a certain person seems to be using this rule to arrest people who are more than within their own SOP's rules to possess weapons just for the kicks. Former Ranks Head Of Maintenance And Engineering Senior Admin Support Supervisor Forum Diplomat Custom Classes The Sniper (Owner) XG56-Orion's Belt (Owner) The Engineer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Boekhom Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 42 minutes ago, Phillers said: -Support, would get us effectively another immortal doorstop. Seems better after edit. +Support. Chad of many names Professional Shit talker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surge Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 +Support Ret MTF Nu7 1LT SFTO Surge| Ret OH2 RRH , Retired SM Gensec | No officer that 24Pounds of plutonium isn't mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recon Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 + support Was playing as a R.I.G earlier today and as I was escorting a researcher and D class to the item SCPs, 912 came over and cuffed me and brought me all the way back to D block. I feel like the rule is good it was just badly written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookieblue Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 On 2/6/2021 at 2:21 PM, Loaff said: +support Honestly the rule was poorly written in the first place, should've said that originally. Also a certain person seems to be using this rule to arrest people who are more than within their own SOP's rules to possess weapons just for the kicks. As seen here, the lore of 912 states that anyone that is armed and not wearing a police uniform is attacked and arrested. The lore was altered to include GENSEC and MTF to allow for better server flow. God forbid we add a little RP to the server instead of just adding a PvP SCP. Why are non-combatants running around constantly with guns out anyway? Pretty sure in lore researchers and utility staff don't run around with their guns out everywhere if they even have guns. I also don't hear anyone complaining about SCP 076's fairly similar reaction to all armed personnel. But I guess that's okay since it's combat. Retired SCP-RP Head of Staff March 3rd, 2019 - December 16th, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexxxx Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 48 minutes ago, Rookieblue said: As seen here, the lore of 912 states that anyone that is armed and not wearing a police uniform is attacked and arrested. The lore was altered to include GENSEC and MTF to allow for better server flow. God forbid we add a little RP to the server instead of just adding a PvP SCP. Why are non-combatants running around constantly with guns out anyway? Pretty sure in lore researchers and utility staff don't run around with their guns out everywhere if they even have guns. I also don't hear anyone complaining about SCP 076's fairly similar reaction to all armed personnel. But I guess that's okay since it's combat. I mean makes sense. But I would just like to say RIGs have their weapons out when escorting a Researcher and Its annoying constantly getting hit/cuffed by 912 (RIGs are Combatants) Can we atleast change that 912 is not allowed to hit any RIG Units that have their weapons out when escorting a Researcher ? O5 Former: DT CPT , CGO - Tenn Graneet , 31st VCMDR -> Havoc CMDR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 (edited) +Support 1 hour ago, Rookieblue said: As seen here, the lore of 912 states that anyone that is armed and not wearing a police uniform is attacked and arrested. The lore was altered to include GENSEC and MTF to allow for better server flow. God forbid we add a little RP to the server instead of just adding a PvP SCP. Why are non-combatants running around constantly with guns out anyway? Pretty sure in lore researchers and utility staff don't run around with their guns out everywhere if they even have guns. I also don't hear anyone complaining about SCP 076's fairly similar reaction to all armed personnel. But I guess that's okay since it's combat. The problem is abuse of the poorly written rule. Not what is "in-lore". If we can't defend ourselves when it's around then what can we do? Sure, tell people to just put away gun around him. But we are swarmed by D-Class on the daily, a few seconds shouldn't result in being stunned. Edited February 9, 2021 by Sparkle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack S Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 3 hours ago, Rookieblue said: As seen here, the lore of 912 states that anyone that is armed and not wearing a police uniform is attacked and arrested. The lore was altered to include GENSEC and MTF to allow for better server flow. God forbid we add a little RP to the server instead of just adding a PvP SCP. Why are non-combatants running around constantly with guns out anyway? Pretty sure in lore researchers and utility staff don't run around with their guns out everywhere if they even have guns. I also don't hear anyone complaining about SCP 076's fairly similar reaction to all armed personnel. But I guess that's okay since it's combat. I suggest maybe adding it that 912 will order non-combatants to put their weapon away and if they do not comply will go into arrest mode? This is just an idea, but I feel it could add a good bit of RP and be a common ground between this. Retired DHOS || Former Wardens Comissioner Caligula || Former SRIC in R&D || Former OH8 Funni [Redacted] Man | | Retired OPSV in Maintenance || Former MMF Duck || Former HLPR Bot AC3 || Retired 2LT in E-11 || Former Head Field Scout || Former Ranger Pax || former ET || Former Omicron-9 CPT || Former OM9 EXP Delta | PoliceRP: PD LCPL | SCU LT "We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard. " -John F Kennedy, Rice University, Sept. 12, 1962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igneous Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 On 2/9/2021 at 11:58 AM, [GL] loudyfam (Jack S) said: I suggest maybe adding it that 912 will order non-combatants to put their weapon away and if they do not comply will go into arrest mode? This is just an idea, but I feel it could add a good bit of RP and be a common ground between this. I like this @Rookieblue 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igneous Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Accepted! Please allow up to a week for any suggestions you have requested to be added in game or on the forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevlar_ Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Completed! This suggestion is now in the server Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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