Surge Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) Discord Name: Surge Discord ID: Surge #3900 Date of Ban: 1/15/2021 Reason for Ban: Pinging the big man himself Zeeptin Dispute: So I just woke up an thought it would've been funny to ping both the cheetaman Igneous an Zeeptin himself , for my very long time I've been with GL an stayed here never knew it was a bannable offense to ping the owner (Never saw it anywhere or read it anywhere) All it was just a harmless joke and it wont happen again just wanted to have fun in the command channel an see if i would get a meme back wasnt expecting a perma ban Edited January 15, 2021 by Surge Ret MTF Nu7 1LT SFTO Surge| Ret OH2 RRH , Retired SM Gensec | No officer that 24Pounds of plutonium isn't mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooM Guy Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Eh +Support if you never do it again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loaff Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 +support Not pinging SMT is kind of just common knowledge, but Surge is a good guy and I don't think he would ever repeat it. Former Ranks Head Of Maintenance And Engineering Senior Admin Support Supervisor Forum Diplomat Custom Classes The Sniper (Owner) XG56-Orion's Belt (Owner) The Engineer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyrinian Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 +Support I dont think a perma-ban was necessary for this, a slap on the wrist, maybe a warn or something, but a ban should be reserved for severe offences. posting explicit content, extreme and unnecessary comments, stuff like that. a ping in a channel should not be equal to this sort of content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Niro Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 I think its kinda stupid for people to get banned perm for this i think its better to give them a week ban first time they do it then a perm after or even a mute but perm ban is 2 much +support Current: ------Former: Nu7 1lt/WO SFTOx2 ECRS Hammer and Sickle Unit l Gensec SGT l E11 CPL/Ranger l Alpha-1 MSGT l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guinea Pig Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 5. Do not tag SMT. Should have read the rules 1 1 1 [SCP-RP] Retired E-11 COL, HFTO and D4 Head | Former CI MSGT/2LT | Former Alpha-1 "Red-Right Hand" Guardian Delta-9 | Former Nu7 2LT/SM HSU Conscript | Former Om-9 2LT and EXP Seasoned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancient Aliens Guy (Woods) Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) + Support I didn't even know it was a bannable offense, if he won't do it again then I suggest 1wk rather than perma. Perma is excessive in this case, seems like he was just trying to meme. I get not wanting to be tagged, but come on. Edited January 15, 2021 by Ancient Aliens Guy (Woods) Retired MTF Nu-7 1LT Woods KLR1 | Hammer and Sickle Unit Helios S2 "A hero need not speak. When he is gone, the world will speak for him." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kindred Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 You see, it really is so simple. Permanently banning a command member because of a ping is petty and makes the server look bad. Engaging with your own community would only increase morale and the promotion of the server. How to not get pinged 101: https://gyazo.com/b2d82d578ff806cbb8f86c87c3a4e4a3 You see if you just adjusted your settings, people could ping you all they want x999999999 times and you'll never get a single notification from them. It's almost like the Discord Engineers knew what they were doing when they made a community based communications platform. +Support 1 1 Former | Nu-7 'Hammer-Down' Lieutenant Colonel | Head of Field Experts | Special Forces: Hammer and Sickle (Commissar Apollo) | ECRS, ERS, EBHM | Interim Head of FTOs Former | Maintenance Adept | MMF JAN 1 (Fabuloso) | Containment Specialist | FTO Former | Special Forces: 'Red Right Hand' OH4 (Kindred) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elu Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Guinea Pig said: 5. Do not tag SMT. Should have read the rules Yes reading the rules is needed, but the point is being perma banned for a ping is just nonsense, like Kyrinian said ,reserve it for severe cases. The fact you have to say "I wont ever do it again" shows a blatant disconnect between owner and the community, which is not good. +support a discord mute would've been fine Edited January 15, 2021 by Elucidator Retired Head Field Expert | Nu-7 "Hammer Down" Vice Commander | Head of HSU | SFTO |Bri'ish Chad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gh0pit Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 17 minutes ago, Guinea Pig said: 5. Do not tag SMT. Should have read the rules Retired CMDR of Epsilon-11 D-Class Main/CI gang/RHO 36 Detective ~You say stop it, I say Gh0pit~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabbo Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Guinea Pig said: 5. Do not tag SMT. Should have read the rules Why should it vary on the person? I've seen many people ping SMT without it even being acknowledged, but when surge does it he gets banned (For a first time offense) It should either be everyone who pings SMT will be banned or No one who pings SMT should be banned. +Support Edited January 15, 2021 by Crabbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Zeus Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 +Support Seems a warn or a mute would have sufficed instead of a ban, it wasn’t done with malicious intent, merely just fun. Even though it is in violation of the rules and he should have known, it still feels a little harsh. 1 Former || SCP-RP: Commander of Epsilon-11 || Chaos Insurgency Captain || Senior Admin || Forums Diplomat || Rho-36 Arcane Autonomous Scout || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Local Soviet Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 +Support Knowing Surge, he won't do it again and I believe he has learned his lesson from this. Free my boy Surge! 1 SCP-RP - Former Assistant Head of Research | Former OMI-9 2LT | Former GenSec 2LT ⋅•⋅⋅•⋅⊰⋅•⋅⋅•⋅⋅•⋅⋅•⋅∙∘☽༓☾∘∙•⋅⋅⋅•⋅⋅⊰⋅•⋅⋅•⋅⋅•⋅⋅•⋅ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattOminigo3 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 19 minutes ago, Crabbo said: Why should it vary on the person? I've seen many people ping SMT it even being acknowledged, but when surge does it he gets banned (For a first time offense) It should either be everyone who pings SMT will be banned or No one who pings SMT should be banned. +Support Grinding with Nu7 |Past SGT in A1, Gensec and CI | Was a great Tech | Saved Beanz from doom thrice | Didn't save Rang | Gets bullied by Surge | Loves all in the server Custom Classes: Spy, D-Class 2304 | CNTN Bot , Raptor Team |Tango - 14, CTF Retired DoTF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J0LT Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) meh. whatever +support just dont it again smh Edited January 15, 2021 by Benslaki_II Retired Nu7 CMDR & CI LTCOL/MAJ Senior Admin/Forums dip/Support Supervisor | former the following: HTF/E4 Head | Only Anubis award winner | Former Nu7 HFTO and CI OFTO | Sec MSGT+Pertinax Owns: Omi-9 'Last Remnants' | Farmer Tucker | Farmer Darius XII | Reznov Klushie | Foxx On: Alpha-8 | S.T.A.R.S | Iota-13 'Luxxy's Soldiers' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bread Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Although yes, it was dumb to ping and it is against the rules, I don't believe that permanently banning someone for being dumb once is necessary. Should've been a warn, as that's what we usually do in the main server. I don't remember having to ban someone over pinging Zeeptin once in the main discord, always a warn. 1 lol, lmao even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack S Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, [GL] Zeus said: +Support Seems a warn or a mute would have sufficed instead of a ban, it wasn’t done with malicious intent, merely just fun. Even though it is in violation of the rules and he should have known, it still feels a little harsh. Forgot to add my two cents: Yes it was pretty stupid, as well as bother the owner who kinda has really important things to do. I feel talking to him and telling him to never do it again would be better, this seems very harsh. I may not get along with Surge but I feel with who he is talking with him would've done better than a ban. I'm always open to other opinions as well. Edited January 15, 2021 by [GL] loudyfam (Jack S) 1 Retired DHOS || Former Wardens Comissioner Caligula || Former SRIC in R&D || Former OH8 Funni [Redacted] Man | | Retired OPSV in Maintenance || Former MMF Duck || Former HLPR Bot AC3 || Retired 2LT in E-11 || Former Head Field Scout || Former Ranger Pax || former ET || Former Omicron-9 CPT || Former OM9 EXP Delta | PoliceRP: PD LCPL | SCU LT "We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard. " -John F Kennedy, Rice University, Sept. 12, 1962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookieblue Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Crabbo said: Why should it vary on the person? I've seen many people ping SMT without it even being acknowledged, but when surge does it he gets banned (For a first time offense) It should either be everyone who pings SMT will be banned or No one who pings SMT should be banned. +Support This is a ridiculous statement. I've issued countless bans to people that have pinged SMT members and Zeeptin alike. There's a difference between pinging someone for a specific reason, or doing it to screw around and "be funny". Secondly, it's literally a rule in the discord not to tag SMT members. A blatant rule violation results in a punishment, same as literally every other rule violation. Had he just pinged Igneous, sure, a week long ban may have been in order. But Igenous and Zeeptin shows exceedingly poor judgement. 3 hours ago, Kindred said: You see, it really is so simple. Permanently banning a command member because of a ping is petty and makes the server look bad. Engaging with your own community would only increase morale and the promotion of the server. How to not get pinged 101: https://gyazo.com/b2d82d578ff806cbb8f86c87c3a4e4a3 You see if you just adjusted your settings, people could ping you all they want x999999999 times and you'll never get a single notification from them. It's almost like the Discord Engineers knew what they were doing when they made a community based communications platform. +Support This is another post that shows the lack of understanding of how SMT have to have their stuff set up for different situations. We can't blanketly set ourselves to not receive pings at all for the times that the pings may be necessary. For example, I'm routinely pinged in a variety of channels across the discords to answer different questions in the MOTD. If I set myself to suppress all pings, all of these people won't have their questions answered. It's similar across the entire SMT team. Trust me, we're well aware of how to set our ping permissions, but it's because we do engage with the community that we don't set them suppress all pings. Plus, Zeeptin was the one who issued the ban, not one of our other moderators. Retired SCP-RP Head of Staff March 3rd, 2019 - December 16th, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Weeb Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) -support The fact of you being a long time member means you should have known better. 4 hours ago, Kindred said: You see, it really is so simple. Permanently banning a command member because of a ping is petty and makes the server look bad. Engaging with your own community would only increase morale and the promotion of the server. How to not get pinged 101: https://gyazo.com/b2d82d578ff806cbb8f86c87c3a4e4a3 You see if you just adjusted your settings, people could ping you all they want x999999999 times and you'll never get a single notification from them. It's almost like the Discord Engineers knew what they were doing when they made a community based communications platform. +Support You see, it really is so simple. Command doesn't have extra privileges like pinging SMT and EMT.you can't engage with the community when constantly trying to keep it going. What happens when you ping the owner instead of not doing it You see if you just follow the rules people won't get banned and you won't have to make a bunch of excuses for them Its almost like people can read and follow the rules when they play on a community Edited January 15, 2021 by Dragin SCP-RP - Former: Moderator/ET, Security SFTO SM, Research Researcher, MTF Alpha-1 Sgt, MTF Alpha-1 "Alpha-6", Noob-7 Cpl, D5 RCT, R&D SIN, T-2 Blackjack, HFR, DHBI and E-11 DoFTO HCE SM | Current: CI Military DHLS SFTO SM Imperial-RP - Former - Moderator, Royal Guard Senior Guard, Shadow Guard Lead, Stormtrooper 2LT, 501st MSG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rito Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Rookieblue said: Plus, Zeeptin was the one who issued the ban, not one of our other moderators. Well, since Zeeptin was the one issuing the ban, I don't think an explanation is needed -Support Current: Nu-7 VCMDR Former: E-11 VCMDR/LT-COL totally didn't get demoted || Event Team Member || CI SFTO 2LT CCs: Snoop Dog Owner || Previous Rho-36 Occult Operative || Used to be Reznov || CI TF2 Heavy || MTF Zeta-0 'Caste Gates' || Tango-12 'Forgiving Hand' French Canadian man || Mbappé fan in the making Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Mike Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 5 hours ago, Bread said: Although yes, it was dumb to ping and it is against the rules, I don't believe that permanently banning someone for being dumb once is necessary. Should've been a warn, as that's what we usually do in the main server. I don't remember having to ban someone over pinging Zeeptin once in the main discord, always a warn. Someone got perm banned from the Clone wars Life RP server for pinging Zeeptin. I'm sorry but if it was Zeeptin who banned you I see a very minimal chance that you get unbanned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enuz 💣 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Rookieblue said: This is a ridiculous statement. I've issued countless bans to people that have pinged SMT members and Zeeptin alike. There's a difference between pinging someone for a specific reason, or doing it to screw around and "be funny". Secondly, it's literally a rule in the discord not to tag SMT members. A blatant rule violation results in a punishment, same as literally every other rule violation. Had he just pinged Igneous, sure, a week long ban may have been in order. But Igenous and Zeeptin shows exceedingly poor judgement. This is another post that shows the lack of understanding of how SMT have to have their stuff set up for different situations. We can't blanketly set ourselves to not receive pings at all for the times that the pings may be necessary. For example, I'm routinely pinged in a variety of channels across the discords to answer different questions in the MOTD. If I set myself to suppress all pings, all of these people won't have their questions answered. It's similar across the entire SMT team. Trust me, we're well aware of how to set our ping permissions, but it's because we do engage with the community that we don't set them suppress all pings. Plus, Zeeptin was the one who issued the ban, not one of our other moderators. Former Head of Janitorial | HCZ man geer | lvl 70 life wizard | Roblox Clothing Designer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Boekhom Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Rookieblue said: This is a ridiculous statement. I've issued countless bans to people that have pinged SMT members and Zeeptin alike. There's a difference between pinging someone for a specific reason, or doing it to screw around and "be funny". Secondly, it's literally a rule in the discord not to tag SMT members. A blatant rule violation results in a punishment, same as literally every other rule violation. Had he just pinged Igneous, sure, a week long ban may have been in order. But Igenous and Zeeptin shows exceedingly poor judgement. This is another post that shows the lack of understanding of how SMT have to have their stuff set up for different situations. We can't blanketly set ourselves to not receive pings at all for the times that the pings may be necessary. For example, I'm routinely pinged in a variety of channels across the discords to answer different questions in the MOTD. If I set myself to suppress all pings, all of these people won't have their questions answered. It's similar across the entire SMT team. Trust me, we're well aware of how to set our ping permissions, but it's because we do engage with the community that we don't set them suppress all pings. Plus, Zeeptin was the one who issued the ban, not one of our other moderators. Chad of many names Professional Shit talker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[CCG] Camo Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) +Support He's Just a lad, Just a young unknowing child, He's just a boy. He's just a lad. Edited January 16, 2021 by [CCG] Camo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squash Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) Rule 5. Do not tag SMT. Not only that, but you pinged Zeeptin. Like why would you wake up and think that's funny to do? There is a reason why you don't see this incidents happen often, hell I'd go as far to say the only people who can ping Zeeptin are SMT themselves. Also you got banned by Zeeptin, odds are against you. -Support overall Edited January 16, 2021 by Squash Foundation Archivist | Operations Supervisor | SCP-RP Senior Admin | Forums Diplomat | Support 1 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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