Getting Rid of Goliath - Denied

[Sprink]

Please keep this topic to only + or - supports.

[Phillers]

2 hours ago, Crazyhorse said:

i saw the event poster, and miniguns arent allowed. so dual miniguns are?

That poster is made for events not for jobs. Otherwise half the weapons MTF have would not be on their jobs.

[Bread]

Nonetheless, the job does not need to be removed or restricted to events. Give it at least a week or two, as it has just been changed less that 24 hours ago.
- Support, I will refrain from posting here again. 

Edited January 5, 2021 by Bread

[Star]

-Support
Job was added last night. More time is needed to get a genuine feel of things.
As for removing/restricting it, a replacement of the dual Augers or a lowering of the statistics would be better.
However, removing or restricting the job shouldn't be done. As such, I will be leaving a -Support.

[[GL] Dtscalice]

+Support

My guy I saw a Goliath Eradicate a Praexides today and the Goliath made it Fly that's not fair in my opinion to CI whatsoever

~FWS Price

[pixalgamer99]

Every time a new job or edit gets made it seems someone wants it removed in under 24 hours 

I had a talk with Matteo and he told me how it wasn’t too powerful but I will continue to look into it later 

-support at the most just nerf the weapon a bit if it’s too overpowered

[theblueking87]

WAIT THERES ROBO MECHS TFK??

[Rito]

-Support

-The class has been released maybe today or yesterday so give it some time, also you cannot just remove a Class from a branch, you need to talk to the branch Command.

[Southpaw]

4 hours ago, MattOminigo3 said:

- Support

1. You didn't even come to anyone in MTF which you should.

2. This is one out of the four Platinum classes available. The Augurs are equivalent to a Negev.

3. The Platinum thing is here to stay and it will not be removed but the gun can be changed. However, I do not see a need. If you get a group of people vs someone the group will win. 

Next time convene with Nu-7 HCMD and SMT if you wanna change a Platinum job.

 

 

[a frog]

5 hours ago, MattOminigo3 said:

- Support

1. You didn't even come to anyone in MTF which you should.

2. This is one out of the four Platinum classes available. The Augurs are equivalent to a Negev.

3. The Platinum thing is here to stay and it will not be removed but the gun can be changed. However, I do not see a need. If you get a group of people vs someone the group will win. 

Next time convene with Nu-7 HCMD and SMT if you wanna change a Platinum job.

 

man a 100 dollar class is actually good who wouldve thunk it am i right its not like the nu7 juggernaut before barley counted as a good class since it had the worst weapons that were good back on site o5 3 map changes ago but now since updated weapons and people actually play on it now because its a class that deservers the plat spot and only has 3 slots is good? Damn you right.

btw im not throwing shade on goliath because its legit a good class now and not a class that belonged on fucking bronze

ALSO THE GOLIATH WAS ALREADY NERFED WITH LOWER SHOOTING SPEED TF YOU MEAN

 

also just a bit of history for you a legit branch got taken off to add *2* new classes with decent guns like tf out of here

Edited January 6, 2021 by frog

[The Judge]

1 hour ago, vSquishyv said:

-Support

-The class has been released maybe today or yesterday so give it some time, also you cannot just remove a Class from a branch, you need to talk to the branch Command.

 

[not ben]

-Support. Those guns suck at long range so just snipe em and boom they can't do anything and they die,  it can kill anyone in half a second if there right next to you, but put some distance and they lose all power. 

[MattOminigo3]

59 minutes ago, Jack II said:

a job that has a minigun and a ton of hp should only be used during specific breaches like 682. Theres no reason for it to be in dblock ever.

+ support

Now they only go in dblock on a partial/full or if they need dclass. 

[Yato Sensei]

- Support
The miniguns aren't even that accurate, their damage is pretty meh. A negev can outtrade this weapon (If you can control the recoil). Also, Goliaths have some heavy restrictions. They can't be in D block unless its Partial/Full Lockdown and they can't be in LCZ on Defcon 4 and 5.

[Kenneth Slick]

11 hours ago, Bread said:

Nonetheless, the job does not need to be removed or restricted to events. Give it at least a week or two, as it has just been changed less that 24 hours ago.
- Support, I will refrain from posting here again. 

- Support 

Job is far too new and I’ll agree that the dual augers are extremely powerful, when used correctly, being close range. Although I believe the Dual Augers accuracy should be decreased more, we need some more time to see. Aside from that, I am no in support of removing this class, I would look to a possible suggestion in the future to a nerf of the weapons instead. 

[Gunther]

On 1/5/2021 at 1:24 PM, Comrade Boekhom said:

The mech required 85+ players and 12 MTF to even attempt to construct, which then they need to hold the warehouse for 10 minutes

That sounds down right tedious and very extreme. 


Anyways, this has always been the case, MTF and CI try to 1 up each other to gain an upper-hand, and from what it sounds like, they both have their individual titans of death. They are obviously balanced so neither side is too op in one regard so no point in changing things now.
-Support 

[MexicanGuy]

 

I don't think that's a good idea, but the fact of having that weapon that is somewhat weaker than the negev but easier to handle, I don't think it's good.

I would rather the job had the negev, it is more fair in my opinion, besides that you can get that weapon in the armory. CI has a mecha with the same or similar weapon, but they have only one slot which is mostly delta + (like maynard, which not all members of ci have wl).

The fairest thing in that case is that there is a job similar to the mecha, that has stats and weapons similar to the mecha.

[J0LT]

-support

It just came out, give it time, balances will come when needed. In the mean time, maybe figure out a way to beat them with strategy

[Echo Romeo]

On 1/5/2021 at 2:27 PM, Bread said:

Nonetheless, the job does not need to be removed or restricted to events. Give it at least a week or two, as it has just been changed less that 24 hours ago.
- Support, I will refrain from posting here again. 

 

[Jack II]

Completely changed my mind the fact this job has a ton of HP and ARMOR on top of a minigun is insanely OP. There can literally be 5 of them on at once. In no way is that balanced or fair. Get rid of it

[Kiddo]

Bro u guys got the chungus man, let us have our job also.

-support

[[GL] Fryingpan36]

On 1/5/2021 at 9:51 AM, Rookieblue said:

Doesn't CI have their own mecha of death that they can construct?

I mean Yes but Don't CI have to work for it unlike people who just buy plat then gun down CI when they try to get the Mech.

[Echo Romeo]

On 1/8/2021 at 8:43 PM, Jack II said:

Completely changed my mind the fact this job has a ton of HP and ARMOR on top of a minigun is insanely OP. There can literally be 5 of them on at once. In no way is that balanced or fair. Get rid of it

I'm pretty sure only like 3 can be on

[Balancer]

-Support

CI has their own death machine they can make, and it seems you didn't even speak to anyone in MTF about it.

[Zeeptin]

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