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What are you suggesting? - Reduce the amount of defenses GENSEC has and add a 3rd walkway one on the left middle and right. 

How would this change better the server? - It would give a buff to D class to give us a somewhat advantage over the overwhelming advantage security has 

Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - Non really it might actually encourage more patrols on GENSEC's part 

Who would this change mostly benefit? - D class 

Please link any workshop content, screenshots, or anything that you think may be helpful to those who view this suggestion -N/A

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This would give D-Class WAY to much of an advantage, they are prisoners not trained soldiers they aren't supposed to be able to take out the trained security so easily (Which they already do) They don't need a buff IMO they need to stay the same as it's balanced right now. So the glass should stay.

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6 minutes ago, [GL] Mike said:

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This would give Class-D WAY to much of an advantage, they are prisoners not trained soldiers they aren't supposed to be able to take out the trained security so easily (Which they already do) They don't need a buff IMO they need to stay the same as it's balanced right now. So the glass should stay.

Also there is a reason why smt put glass there

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I think removing those windows would really mess up things and cause alot more issues than it would fix. 

I personally think maybe a reduction in gensec defenses maybe would help or at less move the MIDDLE lineup entrance in front of gensec to the right, this would make it easier for dclass as gensec will now have to cover both entrances instead of them being so close together that they barely have to move their mouse... 

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D-Class take over D-Block multiple times a day still and we literally just got a new D-Block GIVE IT TIME. Just like the last post you made GenSec are in a spot now where research are able to get D-Class for a test, Field medics are able to heal, and Maintenance are able to do repairs in D-Block. It is in a good state ATM and allows multiple other branches to RP while occasionally allowing D-Class to take it over.  Let GenSec HCMD and SA see how D-Block is doing and Collect informaton about it to see if there need to be a changed. 

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Even after edit, D-block is extremely easy to take over. Especially now that we can actually see where each guard is and how many BEFORE we get there. 

Where as before, we couldn't see anything in upper d-block, leaving us to guess and TRY to take it. For the few days I've been on the new map, I've seen i d block lost more than secured.

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We just got the map, and from my experience, D-Class have an easy time taking it. Since the area is super small, all D-Class have to do is melee rush and they can take it over.

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Yeah that's not all we have to do cause we've done that time and time again to get slaughtered 

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does this look like something you can 

1 hour ago, [GL] Inaccurate said:

melee rush

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+support but with a small catch remove the command post on the right it’s unneeded and takes up space that could have been a good spot for the field medic and armor station but now it’s outside and and also remove the second layer of Gates it’s also uneeded and just why is it their or for the right side command post instead of removing it make it the armor/ medical station 

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3 hours ago, [GL] Mike said:

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This would give D-Class WAY to much of an advantage, they are prisoners not trained soldiers they aren't supposed to be able to take out the trained security so easily (Which they already do) They don't need a buff IMO they need to stay the same as it's balanced right now. So the glass should stay.

I hate to be that guy but we can’t keep buffing d class, we actually need to do some prison RP instead of riots 24/7. Researchers can’t do their tests and LCZ is in pandemonium and all of utility and research are affected and if you see it from their perspective, it becomes annoying as their RP is brought to a standstill. I may come off as slightly rude when I say this but if you practice rioting you become better, I know some people who are amazing rioters and can take down d block almost solo. It’s a matter of adapting. That being said, the update was made very recently so let’s give it atleast a week before jumping to conclusions 

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This new map update has completely changed d class, seeing as its the job people start as its important they can actually have fun with it and have a chance to escape.

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On 9/17/2020 at 8:16 PM, [GL] Zeus said:

I hate to be that guy but we can’t keep buffing d class, we actually need to do some prison RP instead of riots 24/7. Researchers can’t do their tests and LCZ is in pandemonium and all of utility and research are affected and if you see it from their perspective, it becomes annoying as their RP is brought to a standstill. I may come off as slightly rude when I say this but if you practice rioting you become better, I know some people who are amazing rioters and can take down d block almost solo. It’s a matter of adapting. That being said, the update was made very recently so let’s give it atleast a week before jumping to conclusions 

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On 9/17/2020 at 7:47 PM, BadAim said:

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Lmfao at this point I don't even know what to say. We've gone from no fences and just barricades to this.

Im kinda in the middle here, something like this picture IS ridiculous, while I don't want there to be constant rioting bring lcz rp to a complete standstill we gotta have a better solution than that tbh

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On 9/17/2020 at 4:35 PM, [GL] Mike said:

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This would give D-Class WAY to much of an advantage, they are prisoners not trained soldiers they aren't supposed to be able to take out the trained security so easily (Which they already do) They don't need a buff IMO they need to stay the same as it's balanced right now. So the glass should stay.

 

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-support  GENSEC already has a struggle to recontain D-BLOCK its their section MTF Shouldnt be running D-block 90 percent of the time because class D want an "easier" way to take over its unfun its a RP Server Researchers this past week have been unable to do their tests an SCPS are nearley impossible to feed because Class D riot every single chance they can get, Class D arnt supposed to be strong for a reason , they have the #'s which is how the overwhelm GS already  Class D dont need more buffs

Gensec have multiple problems they deal with Researchers wanting a test, Escorting said researcher which means losing a man, Possible Sleuths ruining their plans, CI, An Class D CC'S which most have already powerful guns that two tap most jobs that are under CPL+ 

Gensec have 2 min NLR they follow, Class D do not unless they are a CC

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On 9/17/2020 at 3:03 PM, [GL] Inaccurate said:

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We just got the map, and from my experience, D-Class have an easy time taking it. Since the area is super small, all D-Class have to do is melee rush and they can take it over.

To be honest, the balance in my opinion has been relatively fair if I'm considering timezone. I tend to hop on at sporadic moments throughout the day and, typically, there won't typically be tons of gensec near evening. The way I see it:
GENSEC rules in the afternoon.
D class rules at night. 
Pretty funny. Also, I've seen D class take over D block plenty of times so...

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