~𝓢𝓞𝓤𝓛~ Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) Your In-Game Name: SOUL Your SteamID: STEAM_0:0:159439430 Staff member's In-Game Name: MIKE B What did they do? physgun abuse Evidence (REQUIRED): https://streamable.com/v68qn5 watch the vid slowly he physguns jacky from the gate to the door then me What do you think is an acceptable punishment? smt decision Edited September 6, 2020 by rip my soul PD SM | SWAT LT | SL Consigliere MLG Pro Negev player #buffthenegev2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah REmiX Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 +Support I was there and it is clearly abuse PD CPL | FBI SA | DEA ASAC | DEA FTO | SS SO | Scythes Of Paradise Lord “People will do you wrong over and over, but the one time you call them out your suddenly the bad guy.” - Juice WRLD "Yesterday, today was tomorrow. And tomorrow, today will be yesterday." - George Harrison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drippy Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Did he just physgun jacky back into the prison? lmfao +Support PoliceRP - Retired Manager Retired SWAT Commander | UMC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head of Staff Frog Posted September 6, 2020 Head of Staff Share Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) Maybe I'm missing it, but to me it just looks like the player was stuck and Mike B used his physgun to get him out, and staff are allowed to use their physgun for that. After looking at it further I am changing to a +Support, although Mike is a good staff member, I think he should be talked to. Edited September 6, 2020 by frog milk ImperialRP SMT | Head of Staff Head Forums Diplomat Former High Admiral | Former DT Commander | Former State LTCOL | Former SPRT Commander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~𝓢𝓞𝓤𝓛~ Posted September 6, 2020 Author Share Posted September 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, frog milk said: Maybe I'm missing it, but to me it just looks like the player was stuck and Mike B used his physgun to get him out, and staff are allowed to use their physgun for that. watch the beginning slowly he physguns him from the gate to the door PD SM | SWAT LT | SL Consigliere MLG Pro Negev player #buffthenegev2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyman21 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Heres my side, first i tried to run from the guy cause he was distracted putting the other PT's into the jail, I was first physgunned from WHERE I WAS NOT STUCK and he couldve RPed it out to handcuff me and then drag me, accidentally sticking me in a wall. He did unnecesarily alter an rp situation with his staff powers, but I dont think its a very big deal TBH. I think at max a talking to is necessary. i told him dont do that thats abuse and i threatened to make a report, which he pmed me later asking if i was gonna make a report to which i said no (didnt screenshot that) but soul made a staff report i guess so a reluctant +support cause i think mikes doing a good job otherwise Former: Dispatch Director | PD MAJ | SCU CPT | FBI SAIC/HRT/DEA | SCO19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL]Margarita (Brent) Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 At that point in time I had taken 3 people doing PT to the DOC I told all 3 of them to walk into the building since it would have taken to long to drag one by one into DOC at witch point Jacky had decided to try and run away from me when I repeatably told him to get back to the DOC since I didn't put him in for the time yet. After he had refused to do it I had moved moved him back to the door at witch he had gotten stuck so I pulled him out of the wall and made no contact with Soul as he said in his report against me. The only reason that I had done the physgun part was because there was no staff online at the point in time and I had spoke to Jacky and said you know you werent able to run since I had a gun out and I had you in cuffs and in the DOC parking lot. But at no point did I use my physgun on anyone other then the person who was braking the rule by running away while cuffed and had a gun on them. SRT PFC | SCU OFC | FBI SSA | DD Officer l Dispatcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniEpic Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 +support ok so flinging people back into prison with your physgun? seems legit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 +support Mike is a good staff member but this is abuse, no matter what the situation was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyman21 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, [GL]Margarita (Brent) said: At that point in time I had taken 3 people doing PT to the DOC I told all 3 of them to walk into the building since it would have taken to long to drag one by one into DOC at witch point Jacky had decided to try and run away from me when I repeatably told him to get back to the DOC since I didn't put him in for the time yet. After he had refused to do it I had moved moved him back to the door at witch he had gotten stuck so I pulled him out of the wall and made no contact with Soul as he said in his report against me. The only reason that I had done the physgun part was because there was no staff online at the point in time and I had spoke to Jacky and said you know you werent able to run since I had a gun out and I had you in cuffs and in the DOC parking lot. But at no point did I use my physgun on anyone other then the person who was braking the rule by running away while cuffed and had a gun on them. You were distracted taking the other PT's and I seized my oppurtunity to try and run/make your job harder cause i obvi didnt wanna get arrested. No hard feelings here mike but this was abuse and im gonna quote the MOTD "If the police officer gets distracted and leaves you alone, you may attempt an escape." i.e. you were doing other pts and didnt notice me walking at first. when you saw me i stopped and talked to you for a sec threatening to jump in the water as a joke and thats when you physgunned me to my stuck point and abused powers no hard feelings mike but this is unacceptable Edited September 6, 2020 by jackyman21 Former: Dispatch Director | PD MAJ | SCU CPT | FBI SAIC/HRT/DEA | SCO19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerg Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 +Support Sadly even if people are breaking the rules, you are not the right rank to do anything about it off duty, so this is still Abusing your Phis Gun Powers. PoliceRP SMT | Head Admin | Head Of Support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ vσxιs ~ Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 This is clear abuse. It was hard to catch (because someone's shoulder cam was in the way >.>) but you can clearly see where he was being picked up at the gate and then thrown to the door of DOC. The no staff online can't really be used as an excuse because if instances like this are happening you can ALWAYS make a player report on the forums. NEVER take situations like this into your own hands because it could very well cost you. +SUPPORT “The only way that we can live is if we grow. The only way we can grow is if we change. The only way we can change is if we learn. The only way we can learn is if we are exposed. And the only way that we are exposed is if we throw ourselves into the open.” — C. Joybell || Proud Member of GamingLight since March 2018 || || Former MTF Alpha-1 MAJ || Former NSA Director || Former MTF E-11 CPL || Former SWAT CMDR || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Townsend Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 6 hours ago, Zerg said: +Support Sadly even if people are breaking the rules, you are not the right rank to do anything about it off duty, so this is still Abusing your Phis Gun Powers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bT aSSaiLaNTT Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 15 hours ago, Zerg said: +Support Sadly even if people are breaking the rules, you are not the right rank to do anything about it off duty, so this is still Abusing your Phis Gun Powers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Newsom Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 16 hours ago, Brando said: +support Mike is a good staff member but this is abuse, no matter what the situation was. Ex PoliceRP- Senior Admin & Senior Event Team | Ex Support | Ex Fourm Diplomat | EX SWAT Commander | EX UMC Mercenary Leader | Ex OG General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupremeChow Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 On 9/6/2020 at 5:54 PM, Noah REmiX said: +Support I was there and it is clearly abuse Mike you are no exception to the rules, we have a entire guideline on this :l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 +support as stated above this is clear abuse deal with three PT's is annoying but you could have called for other officers or something else. now i think all that is needed is a strong talking to about this as this is a minor mess up and shouldn't ruin his entire time ( still up to SMT) otherwise this is a great person and staff member Retired Great Lake Side Police Deputy Chief of Police| Reserve PD Col | Rouge 141 operative| Harry Duke Member| Previous Senior Admin| Previous US Core VCMDR/ US Drill Instructors Commander/ US Military Police Chief/ Spetnaz Reserve 1LT. US GFH25 Delta Force Operative Chairman Designation A259 - SCO19 Chief Superintendent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrots Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 On 9/6/2020 at 11:30 PM, frog milk said: Maybe I'm missing it, but to me it just looks like the player was stuck and Mike B used his physgun to get him out, and staff are allowed to use their physgun for that. After looking at it further I am changing to a +Support, although Mike is a good staff member, I think he should be talked to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternity Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Accepted Thank you for the report. Appropriate action against the staff member will be taken to ensure that they receive the correct punishment. @[GL]Margarita (Brent) Come speak to me in Teamspeak PoliceRP Manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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