Propane Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 (edited) What are you suggesting? - Allow D-Class suppliers to purchase weapon shipments for an equivalent price How would this change better the server? - Makes the supplier easier to supply all of D-Block Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - idk if the normal darkrp stuff will work Who would this change mostly benefit? - Rioters Edited September 4, 2020 by Propane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forehead man [GL] Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 +support yeah it costs a fair bit and takes a while to supply everyone, depending on how balanced it would be, it could be 20k for the luxary of not having to drop 10 glocks individually, or 15-19k to make it a discount or something MTF E11 VCMDR Mateo C0RN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Mike Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 -Support If one Class-D could buy all the Class-D in D-Block a weapon especially a gun this could fuck up everything. I see Class-D easily overpower gensec with weapons all the time and I dont think this is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillers Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Just now, [GL] Mike said: -Support If one Class-D could buy all the Class-D in D-Block a weapon especially a gun this could fuck up everything. I see Class-D easily overpower gensec with weapons all the time and I dont think this is needed. I mean, Suppliers already can do this, but i do agree that making it this much easier could mess with GenSec's balance. "Without morals, are we truly any better than the things we've set ourselves to contain?" EX-Site Director | EX-Super Admin | EX-Event Team Lead | Otter Lover | Regardless of what SMT Says, not a furry. | R&D Senior Inspector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 -/+ Support. Generally i would rather have the shipments as semi-auto pistols and nothing else to not overpower Can possibly Change the balance between Gensec and D-class. [SCP:RP]Retired Assistant Head of Medical|Former E-11 SM|Former GamingLight Admin|Minge of :V| Former OM1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Zeus Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 (edited) -Support Yeah I’m not of literally all the d class on with Glocks rioting. It’s gonna make Gensec’s job way more harder. Edited September 3, 2020 by [GL] Zeus Former || SCP-RP: Commander of Epsilon-11 || Chaos Insurgency Captain || Senior Admin || Forums Diplomat || Rho-36 Arcane Autonomous Scout || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggo0 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 17 minutes ago, [GL] Zeus said: -Support Yeah I’m not of literally all the d class on with Glocks rioting. It’s gonna make Gensec’s job way more harder. Supplier can already do this. This would just make it easier. -Support still tho. SCPRP Director of Logistics, Event Team | Former Nu7 2LT, Former Senior Admin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowymax Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 (edited) +/- SupportFor balance sake, I personally would go with either making the shipment an equivalent cost, or more expensive than individually buying guns. The biggest advantage I see is lag reduction during these kinds of riots and I'll explain why: On multiple occasions I've been given 100/200k by other players to spawn as many glocks as possible for rioting. Every time, I've been able to fill the entire casino, and the floor outside the casino, with glocks. 200k is enough to buy me 100 glocks. Assuming that each shipment gives 10 guns, I can either purchase and spawn 100 individual weapons scattered all over the floor, or I can purchase and spawn 10 items. Especially at peak hours, something like this will be incredibly helpful for performance during riots. 2 hours ago, [GL] Mike said: If one Class-D could buy all the Class-D in D-Block a weapon especially a gun this could fuck up everything. I see Class-D easily overpower gensec with weapons all the time and I dont think this is needed. Touching on what Mike said, the only difference, balance-wise for GenSec and MTF will be riot prep time. From my experience in doing this multiple times, the slower prep-time doesn't do anything to help GenSec. They don't notice what we are doing until after we start rioting. During a riot, by myself I can generally keep up with supplying the dying d-class. Give me a second supplier and we vastly outproduce our loses. The first thing to go for a riot like this isn't guns in-stock to immediately grab, its money. Edited September 3, 2020 by Shadowymax Corrected +support to +/- Support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggo0 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Shadowymax said: +SupportFor balance sake, I personally would go with either making the shipment an equivalent cost, or more expensive than individually buying guns. The biggest advantage I see is lag reduction during these kinds of riots and I'll explain why: On multiple occasions I've been given 100/200k by other players to spawn as many glocks as possible for rioting. Every time, I've been able to fill the entire casino, and the floor outside the casino, with glocks. 200k is enough to buy me 100 glocks. Assuming that each shipment gives 10 guns, I can either purchase and spawn 100 individual weapons scattered all over the floor, or I can purchase and spawn 10 items. Especially at peak hours, something like this will be incredibly helpful for performance during riots. ^^^ Changing it to +Support if the price is equivalent (or more) SCPRP Director of Logistics, Event Team | Former Nu7 2LT, Former Senior Admin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritz Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Shadowymax said: +/- SupportFor balance sake, I personally would go with either making the shipment an equivalent cost, or more expensive than individually buying guns. The biggest advantage I see is lag reduction during these kinds of riots and I'll explain why: On multiple occasions I've been given 100/200k by other players to spawn as many glocks as possible for rioting. Every time, I've been able to fill the entire casino, and the floor outside the casino, with glocks. 200k is enough to buy me 100 glocks. Assuming that each shipment gives 10 guns, I can either purchase and spawn 100 individual weapons scattered all over the floor, or I can purchase and spawn 10 items. Especially at peak hours, something like this will be incredibly helpful for performance during riots. Touching on what Mike said, the only difference, balance-wise for GenSec and MTF will be riot prep time. From my experience in doing this multiple times, the slower prep-time doesn't do anything to help GenSec. They don't notice what we are doing until after we start rioting. During a riot, by myself I can generally keep up with supplying the dying d-class. Give me a second supplier and we vastly outproduce our loses. The first thing to go for a riot like this isn't guns in-stock to immediately grab, its money. ^ +Support Was Nu7 2LT Shot Once Was a Nu7 MSGT also was a CI Captain once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack (utility one) Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 +support Damien said it perfectly! There are gods in Alabama: Jack Daniel's, high school quarterbacks, trucks, big tits, and also Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Boekhom Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 18 hours ago, Shadowymax said: +/- SupportFor balance sake, I personally would go with either making the shipment an equivalent cost, or more expensive than individually buying guns. The biggest advantage I see is lag reduction during these kinds of riots and I'll explain why: On multiple occasions I've been given 100/200k by other players to spawn as many glocks as possible for rioting. Every time, I've been able to fill the entire casino, and the floor outside the casino, with glocks. 200k is enough to buy me 100 glocks. Assuming that each shipment gives 10 guns, I can either purchase and spawn 100 individual weapons scattered all over the floor, or I can purchase and spawn 10 items. Especially at peak hours, something like this will be incredibly helpful for performance during riots. Touching on what Mike said, the only difference, balance-wise for GenSec and MTF will be riot prep time. From my experience in doing this multiple times, the slower prep-time doesn't do anything to help GenSec. They don't notice what we are doing until after we start rioting. During a riot, by myself I can generally keep up with supplying the dying d-class. Give me a second supplier and we vastly outproduce our loses. The first thing to go for a riot like this isn't guns in-stock to immediately grab, its money. 7 hours ago, Jack (utility one) said: +support Damien said it perfectly! Chad of many names Professional Shit talker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Fizz-y Soda Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 8 hours ago, Jack (utility one) said: +support Damien said it perfectly! CI CMDR / CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creamey Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 On 9/3/2020 at 11:10 AM, [GL] Mike said: -Support If one Class-D could buy all the Class-D in D-Block a weapon especially a gun this could fuck up everything. I see Class-D easily overpower gensec with weapons all the time and I dont think this is needed. On 9/3/2020 at 12:55 PM, [GL] Zeus said: -Support Yeah I’m not of literally all the d class on with Glocks rioting. It’s gonna make Gensec’s job way more harder. [SCP-RP] Retired Head Of Security || Retired Field Work Manager || Retired OM3 || Retired Event Team Member [JvS no more] Former FIRST The Grand Inquisitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 On 9/3/2020 at 12:54 PM, Crystal said: -/+ Support. Generally i would rather have the shipments as semi-auto pistols and nothing else to not overpower Can possibly Change the balance between Gensec and D-class. The balance will always lean towards Gensec, unfortunately, however, this is just for convenience sake. I'm in Support of this, its not like it changes much. Its something supplier can do, just not in single quantities. Former Security Captain | Former RCF Commander | Former Admin of SCP:RP | King Penguin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surge Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 On 9/3/2020 at 10:10 AM, [GL] Mike said: -Support If one Class-D could buy all the Class-D in D-Block a weapon especially a gun this could fuck up everything. I see Class-D easily overpower gensec with weapons all the time and I dont think this is needed. Ret MTF Nu7 1LT SFTO Surge| Ret OH2 RRH , Retired SM Gensec | No officer that 24Pounds of plutonium isn't mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridian Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 11 hours ago, Gunther said: The balance will always lean towards Gensec, unfortunately, however, this is just for convenience sake. I'm in Support of this, its not like it changes much. Its something supplier can do, just not in single quantities. Not particularly, take when they added the CSGO knives for example, that killed GenSecs activity and made it basically unplayable to be on GenSec due to the ridiculous speed damage and range they had. Plus if all Dclass had glocks, the supplier and all other non CC's have 0 NLR meaning its a constant onslaught against GenSec which is mostly comprised of enlisted, NCO's and then some command which could probably hold back a few waves of it but after that they'd be pretty screwed as once one dies they have to wait the 2 minute NLR while Dclass continue with just as many Dclass just one less gun against them. This being said if the shipments were the same price as it would be to buy each individual gun that amount of times this seems fine to me. || Retired GenSec || STARS || J04 "Crest" || Foul Tarnished || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 5 hours ago, Meridian said: Not particularly, take when they added the CSGO knives for example, that killed GenSecs activity and made it basically unplayable to be on GenSec due to the ridiculous speed damage and range they had. Plus if all Dclass had glocks, the supplier and all other non CC's have 0 NLR meaning its a constant onslaught against GenSec which is mostly comprised of enlisted, NCO's and then some command which could probably hold back a few waves of it but after that they'd be pretty screwed as once one dies they have to wait the 2 minute NLR while Dclass continue with just as many Dclass just one less gun against them. This being said if the shipments were the same price as it would be to buy each individual gun that amount of times this seems fine to me. Well to be fair, all Donator weapons have a history of starting off OP and D-Class seeing this and hopping on the bandwagon. (Christmas Hammer, CSGO, etc.) then getting nerfed into the ground because people complain too much. The knives were legit OP since their hit speed, damage, and range were super good. Now all 3 of those things are nerfed and no one uses em. RIP the knives. Former Security Captain | Former RCF Commander | Former Admin of SCP:RP | King Penguin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dect Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 On 9/3/2020 at 12:55 PM, [GL] Zeus said: -Support Yeah I’m not of literally all the d class on with Glocks rioting. It’s gonna make Gensec’s job way more harder. Former Security 2LT | Former EWD| Former OM5|Former Medical SM|Former Reznov Klushkie| Former SCP-RP Senior Moderator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Jack I the One & Only Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 +support more a utility thing than a class-d buff, not going to make a big difference if it's equal price lol TCM Jack CI Heinz / J03 Italian Mob Boss Zepelli Former CI Research Administrator Heinz - Not [REDACTED] Researcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igneous Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Accepted! Please allow up to a week for any suggestions you have requested to be added in game or on the forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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