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What are you suggesting? - Not letting any GenSec into HCZ except RC expert or escorts

How would this change better the server? - Will let MTF do there jobs with out GenSec doing it for us.

Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - GenSec will have to stay in LCZ 

Who would this change mostly benefit? - MTF

Please link any workshop content, screenshots, or anything that you think may be helpful to those who view this suggestion -N\A

note do not argue about this suggestion in the replys . And plz dont hate me for my 2 cents.

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1 hour ago, icee jay said:

enSec into HCZ except RC expert or escorts

Those are the only reasons Gensec should be in HCZ (Unless a certain rank)

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-Support

I don't think this is a good idea, this is an overall nerf to how security works, I think the way security is fine.

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@StarstepThey are until MTF themselves calls us there? We don't have free will to go there lmao. 

-Support. RC isnt even a gensec job

 

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1 hour ago, Starstep said:

+Support
I thought Wardens was supposed to be an LCZ thing?

Wardens is, wardens can only come into HCZ when requested by the right rank in MTF. They can assist when needed.

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Huh? RC expert? Do you mean RCF? RCF is no longer a thing, just so we're clear on that first. 

To clarify:
The only time GenSec should be in HCZ is for escorts or for Wardens with permission from MTF first. If someone else is in HCZ "doing MTFs job" please let security command know. Otherwise, feel free to look at our GenSec SOP and our Wardens SOP if you have any further questions about our operations. Regardless, you can feel free to contact me or any of my command members directly if you have any questions that our SOP will not answer instead of making suggestions about it.

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Huh? RC expert? Do you mean RCF? RCF is no longer a thing, just so we're clear on that first. 

To clarify:
The only time GenSec should be in HCZ is for escorts or for Wardens with permission from MTF first. If someone else is in HCZ "doing MTFs job" please let security command know. Otherwise, feel free to look at our GenSec SOP and our Wardens SOP if you have any further questions about our operations. Regardless, you can feel free to contact me or any of my command members directly if you have any questions that our SOP will not answer instead of making suggestions about it.

 

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3 hours ago, Sinnik said:

Huh? RC expert? Do you mean RCF? RCF is no longer a thing, just so we're clear on that first. 

To clarify:
The only time GenSec should be in HCZ is for escorts or for Wardens with permission from MTF first. If someone else is in HCZ "doing MTFs job" please let security command know. Otherwise, feel free to look at our GenSec SOP and our Wardens SOP if you have any further questions about our operations. Regardless, you can feel free to contact me or any of my command members directly if you have any questions that our SOP will not answer instead of making suggestions about it.

-HUGE Support

Also, this suggestion is more of suggestion you should refer to the HOS or DoRS. This rule is an SOP thing and Igenous doesn't really need to deal with this. Furthermore if you feel GenSec is taking your jobs (even though you have to be a 2LT+ in Security to go into HCZ or a CPL on an escort or a Warden with permission form MTF MSGT+) please feel free to speak to me or HCMD about this. 

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3 minutes ago, Sinnik said:

Huh? RC expert? Do you mean RCF? RCF is no longer a thing, just so we're clear on that first. 

To clarify:
The only time GenSec should be in HCZ is for escorts or for Wardens with permission from MTF first. If someone else is in HCZ "doing MTFs job" please let security command know. Otherwise, feel free to look at our GenSec SOP and our Wardens SOP if you have any further questions about our operations. Regardless, you can feel free to contact me or any of my command members directly if you have any questions that our SOP will not answer instead of making suggestions about it.

I agree with all that Sinnik has said. Additionally I have not heard a single report of GenSec doing MTFs job/entering HCZ, unless it was a Custom Class, and even those reports haven’t been heard for roughly a month. Wardens is only allowed in HCZ if MTF permits them to help and not do their job for them. Remember, we’re on the same side here. The only other instance they would be in HCZ is for escorting.

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-Support Reason Above and also Generally i see this as a Debuff Rather then a Buff to MTF as there is no extra assistance for MTF when in need of backup from wardens.Edit:) Also when MTF Numbers are consider a low point this is also gonna make MTF Job Alot more Harder if Gensec can only stay in LCZ. and also RCF isn't a thing no more

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Security is constantly bitched at 24/7 and honestly I feel bad, if anything let them have some more freedom.

 

 

 

 

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+support funny MTF but spawn in LCZ lol

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I get where you're coming from Jay but you are missing very key important details about this.

1. Security cannot be in HCZ without reason in the first place, Whether they are escorting research or medical scientists they can't be there.
2. Wardens have to be requested by MTF in the first place so they won't be there unless we ask them there so if this is why you are making this you are putting a downgrade on yourself.

Gensec if there without reason should be reported to command regardless so if this happens dont go to the forums about it.

I just see this post becoming an argument Security vs MTF and we don't need that right now. If you have an issue this is an SOP rule and I am more than positive Security High Command will be willing to talk with you about it they are nice people and I've had plenty of talks with them about issues and they were more than willing to work with me.

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5 hours ago, [GL] Mike said:

-Support

I get where you're coming from Jay but you are missing very key important details about this.

1. Security cannot be in HCZ without reason in the first place, Whether they are escorting research or medical scientists they can't be there.
2. Wardens have to be requested by MTF in the first place so they won't be there unless we ask them there so if this is why you are making this you are putting a downgrade on yourself.

Gensec if there without reason should be reported to command regardless so if this happens dont go to the forums about it.

I just see this post becoming an argument Security vs MTF and we don't need that right now. If you have an issue this is an SOP rule and I am more than positive Security High Command will be willing to talk with you about it they are nice people and I've had plenty of talks with them about issues and they were more than willing to work with me.

 

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-Support, because really this is already in place asfar as i'm aware.

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