icee jay Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 What are you suggesting? - Not letting any GenSec into HCZ except RC expert or escorts How would this change better the server? - Will let MTF do there jobs with out GenSec doing it for us. Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - GenSec will have to stay in LCZ Who would this change mostly benefit? - MTF Please link any workshop content, screenshots, or anything that you think may be helpful to those who view this suggestion -N\A note do not argue about this suggestion in the replys . And plz dont hate me for my 2 cents. 2 1 The old E11 CMDR Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 +Support I thought Wardens was supposed to be an LCZ thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Inaccurate Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 1 hour ago, icee jay said: enSec into HCZ except RC expert or escorts Those are the only reasons Gensec should be in HCZ (Unless a certain rank) "Pay increase declined. Welcome to the Foundation, get used to it." -O5-6 3rd time Head of Medical Staff | Ex-Director of Research and Security | Ex-Director of Utility | Ex-Senior Admin for SCP-RP | Ex-Admin for TTT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack S Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 -Support I don't think this is a good idea, this is an overall nerf to how security works, I think the way security is fine. Retired DHOS || Former Wardens Comissioner Caligula || Former SRIC in R&D || Former OH8 Funni [Redacted] Man | | Retired OPSV in Maintenance || Former MMF Duck || Former HLPR Bot AC3 || Retired 2LT in E-11 || Former Head Field Scout || Former Ranger Pax || former ET || Former Omicron-9 CPT || Former OM9 EXP Delta | PoliceRP: PD LCPL | SCU LT "We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard. " -John F Kennedy, Rice University, Sept. 12, 1962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turner6372 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 -support you know this douse not help mtf and is more of a debuff to gensec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APE Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) @StarstepThey are until MTF themselves calls us there? We don't have free will to go there lmao. -Support. RC isnt even a gensec job Edited August 22, 2020 by APE Ret. Security Colonel || Ret. Head Warden || D-Class High Council || Former MTF Alpha 1 'Red Right Hand' Juliette 69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack S Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Starstep said: +Support I thought Wardens was supposed to be an LCZ thing? Wardens is, wardens can only come into HCZ when requested by the right rank in MTF. They can assist when needed. Retired DHOS || Former Wardens Comissioner Caligula || Former SRIC in R&D || Former OH8 Funni [Redacted] Man | | Retired OPSV in Maintenance || Former MMF Duck || Former HLPR Bot AC3 || Retired 2LT in E-11 || Former Head Field Scout || Former Ranger Pax || former ET || Former Omicron-9 CPT || Former OM9 EXP Delta | PoliceRP: PD LCPL | SCU LT "We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard. " -John F Kennedy, Rice University, Sept. 12, 1962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinnik Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Huh? RC expert? Do you mean RCF? RCF is no longer a thing, just so we're clear on that first. To clarify: The only time GenSec should be in HCZ is for escorts or for Wardens with permission from MTF first. If someone else is in HCZ "doing MTFs job" please let security command know. Otherwise, feel free to look at our GenSec SOP and our Wardens SOP if you have any further questions about our operations. Regardless, you can feel free to contact me or any of my command members directly if you have any questions that our SOP will not answer instead of making suggestions about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saiba Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Just now, Sinnik said: Huh? RC expert? Do you mean RCF? RCF is no longer a thing, just so we're clear on that first. To clarify: The only time GenSec should be in HCZ is for escorts or for Wardens with permission from MTF first. If someone else is in HCZ "doing MTFs job" please let security command know. Otherwise, feel free to look at our GenSec SOP and our Wardens SOP if you have any further questions about our operations. Regardless, you can feel free to contact me or any of my command members directly if you have any questions that our SOP will not answer instead of making suggestions about it. [SCP-RP] - Retired Deputy Head of Security | Joined 3/13/20, Left 9/13/20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixx Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Sinnik said: Huh? RC expert? Do you mean RCF? RCF is no longer a thing, just so we're clear on that first. To clarify: The only time GenSec should be in HCZ is for escorts or for Wardens with permission from MTF first. If someone else is in HCZ "doing MTFs job" please let security command know. Otherwise, feel free to look at our GenSec SOP and our Wardens SOP if you have any further questions about our operations. Regardless, you can feel free to contact me or any of my command members directly if you have any questions that our SOP will not answer instead of making suggestions about it. -HUGE Support Also, this suggestion is more of suggestion you should refer to the HOS or DoRS. This rule is an SOP thing and Igenous doesn't really need to deal with this. Furthermore if you feel GenSec is taking your jobs (even though you have to be a 2LT+ in Security to go into HCZ or a CPL on an escort or a Warden with permission form MTF MSGT+) please feel free to speak to me or HCMD about this. Edited August 23, 2020 by Sixx 1 [ SCP RP ] Director of Research & Security || Armored Shield Award Winner || First Head Warden & HOPO || Security Artillery Unit || D-7025 || D-Class High Council || Former Head of Security || Former Admin || Former Event Team Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creamey Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sinnik said: Huh? RC expert? Do you mean RCF? RCF is no longer a thing, just so we're clear on that first. To clarify: The only time GenSec should be in HCZ is for escorts or for Wardens with permission from MTF first. If someone else is in HCZ "doing MTFs job" please let security command know. Otherwise, feel free to look at our GenSec SOP and our Wardens SOP if you have any further questions about our operations. Regardless, you can feel free to contact me or any of my command members directly if you have any questions that our SOP will not answer instead of making suggestions about it. I agree with all that Sinnik has said. Additionally I have not heard a single report of GenSec doing MTFs job/entering HCZ, unless it was a Custom Class, and even those reports haven’t been heard for roughly a month. Wardens is only allowed in HCZ if MTF permits them to help and not do their job for them. Remember, we’re on the same side here. The only other instance they would be in HCZ is for escorting. -support overall 1 [SCP-RP] Retired Head Of Security || Retired Field Work Manager || Retired OM3 || Retired Event Team Member [JvS no more] Former FIRST The Grand Inquisitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubonicc Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 As an RC expert -support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) -Support Reason Above and also Generally i see this as a Debuff Rather then a Buff to MTF as there is no extra assistance for MTF when in need of backup from wardens.Edit:) Also when MTF Numbers are consider a low point this is also gonna make MTF Job Alot more Harder if Gensec can only stay in LCZ. and also RCF isn't a thing no more Edited August 22, 2020 by Crystal 1 [SCP:RP]Retired Assistant Head of Medical|Former E-11 SM|Former GamingLight Admin|Minge of :V| Former OM1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mint Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 -support Security is constantly bitched at 24/7 and honestly I feel bad, if anything let them have some more freedom. 4 MTF Nu7 Major || E11 1LT || Old CI SGT || Ret.LeadResearcher || || RHO-36 Penumbra Squad || || Mikes Favorite Son || OH3 RRH || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J0LT Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 +support funny MTF but spawn in LCZ lol 1 1 Retired Nu7 CMDR & CI LTCOL/MAJ Senior Admin/Forums dip/Support Supervisor | former the following: HTF/E4 Head | Only Anubis award winner | Former Nu7 HFTO and CI OFTO | Sec MSGT+Pertinax Owns: Omi-9 'Last Remnants' | Farmer Tucker | Farmer Darius XII | Reznov Klushie | Foxx On: Alpha-8 | S.T.A.R.S | Iota-13 'Luxxy's Soldiers' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange 🍊 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 1 hour ago, [GL] Inaccurate said: Those are the only reasons Gensec should be in HCZ (Unless a certain rank) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Mike Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 -Support I get where you're coming from Jay but you are missing very key important details about this. 1. Security cannot be in HCZ without reason in the first place, Whether they are escorting research or medical scientists they can't be there. 2. Wardens have to be requested by MTF in the first place so they won't be there unless we ask them there so if this is why you are making this you are putting a downgrade on yourself. Gensec if there without reason should be reported to command regardless so if this happens dont go to the forums about it. I just see this post becoming an argument Security vs MTF and we don't need that right now. If you have an issue this is an SOP rule and I am more than positive Security High Command will be willing to talk with you about it they are nice people and I've had plenty of talks with them about issues and they were more than willing to work with me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Stone Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 5 hours ago, [GL] Mike said: -Support I get where you're coming from Jay but you are missing very key important details about this. 1. Security cannot be in HCZ without reason in the first place, Whether they are escorting research or medical scientists they can't be there. 2. Wardens have to be requested by MTF in the first place so they won't be there unless we ask them there so if this is why you are making this you are putting a downgrade on yourself. Gensec if there without reason should be reported to command regardless so if this happens dont go to the forums about it. I just see this post becoming an argument Security vs MTF and we don't need that right now. If you have an issue this is an SOP rule and I am more than positive Security High Command will be willing to talk with you about it they are nice people and I've had plenty of talks with them about issues and they were more than willing to work with me. Retired LCZ Manager : Pingas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixalgamer99 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 I have never seen a Gensec in HCZ unless escorting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookieblue Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 GENSEC are already generally restricted to LCZ and D-Block. MTF have primary duties in the HCZ. Retired SCP-RP Head of Staff March 3rd, 2019 - December 16th, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack II Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 wait you mean we can go into HCZ for no reason? BET Rejected from the gaminglight community Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillers Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 -Support, because really this is already in place asfar as i'm aware. "Without morals, are we truly any better than the things we've set ourselves to contain?" EX-Site Director | EX-Super Admin | EX-Event Team Lead | Otter Lover | Regardless of what SMT Says, not a furry. | R&D Senior Inspector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igneous Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 On 8/22/2020 at 6:51 PM, [GL] Inaccurate said: Those are the only reasons Gensec should be in HCZ (Unless a certain rank) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igneous Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Denied. The SCP-RP SMT has decided against adding this suggestion for performance reasons, the benefit to the server, or another unstated reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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