Warning Appeal: Niro

[Not Niro]

Your In-game:MTF Nu7 Recruit Niro

 

Your SteamID:STEAM_0:1:453495579

 

The admin's name in-game:ravioli

 

The admin's steam name (If you know it): Ravioli [GL]

 

What did the admin do: False warned with no clear proof of metagaming, He send me the video they sent  to them https://medal.tv/clips/31159044/DxNbYLtcJrbK  Which has no proof of me metagaming there is no way to tell if i saw them hitting the gensec or even listened from far
And being in ts with them [I don't think its not allowed but incase its needed]

 

Evidence of the abusive action(s) (REQUIRED):

 

What do you believe should happen to the admin: Nothing much a warning would be good..

 

Any extra information:So my story is I was In dblock helping gensec and i see maynard and researcher testing with  a gensec and at that time i was about to leave dblock to patrol but followed them to see what test they gonna do i went there about 3 times once was just following them they kept telling me to leave but i kept saying i came to help  then i was about to leave after i saw ci raid was called in comms and i told them you should not test there is a ci raid and they ignored and kept saying to leave so i did [CI raid was called at armory so i went to check it and came back after finding out it was false After that i went inside to check and saw that there is shots and i saw the researcher having a golf out and seeing the gensec getting hit and killed + maynard i went to shoot the researcher after that 

[Jack (utility one)]

this sound more like a warn appeal not a report

[General bacon]

5 minutes ago, Jack (utility one) said:

this sound more like a warn appeal not a report

Still its kinda of a Staff Report since its still a false warn in that vid I see no evidence of Metagaming or Failrp . 
Also +support

 

 

Edited August 21, 2020 by General bacon

[Comrade Boekhom]

bro you claimed IN THE SIT you did NOT see anyone attack the gensec, you said you heard shooting and a smack, thats literally it.  also just cause were in the same ts channel means nothing, we were with 7 other ci in the ts at the time so big fat

 

-SUPPORT

[Ritz]

so you disregarded higher up orders which is fail rp within itself and then you proceeded to meta-game by instead of dealing with what was causing it to be defcon 3, you chose to watch a foundation doctor

he was within his right to warn you

 

[Not Niro]

The thing in the video there is no way to tell if i saw it or not   + as Nu7 we should be helping researchers with tests in lcz or hcz 

[[GL] Zeus]

My side.

I was testing on Maynard with a sleuth and Niro followed us for no reason when we already had an escort to 294. Later he claimed that there was a CI raid, even if there was he should have dealt with the CI and not escort a test that was already escorted by a Gensec CC. 

He then proceeded to tell me I can’t test on defcon 3 which isn’t true, then after so long of telling him, he left. He then proceeded to stand right outside the containment even after knowing there was CI raid and being dismissed from the area. 
His defense being that It was suspicious I told him to leave, but I’m not sure how it’s suspicious to tell someone to leave to deal with the CI raid and telling them to leave an already escorted test alone.

-Support

————Moved to the correct section————

[Not Niro]

 

1 minute ago, [GL] Zeus said:

My side.

I was testing on Maynard with a sleuth and Niro followed us for no reason when we already had an escort to 294. Later he claimed that there was a CI raid, even if there was he should have dealt with the CI and not escort a test that was already escorted by a Gensec CC. 

He then proceeded to tell me I can’t test on defcon 3 which isn’t true, then after so long of telling him, he left. He then proceeded to stand right outside the containment even after knowing there was CI raid and being dismissed from the area. 
His defense being that It was suspicious I told him to leave, but I’m not sure how it’s suspicious to tell someone to leave to deal with the CI raid and telling them to leave an already escorted test alone.

-Support

First the ci raid was false  thats why i came back to Check and i see blood hear hits and shots  

And You wanted me to leave before the ci raid was even called for NO REASON ?????

[[GL] Zeus]

5 minutes ago, Not Niro said:

 

First the ci raid was false  thats why i came back to Check and i see blood hear hits and shots  

And You wanted me to leave before the ci raid was even called for NO REASON ?????

 https://gyazo.com/18a2d6ef14da527973f2d9ddae54603e

[Not Niro]

3 minutes ago, [GL] Zeus said:

 https://gyazo.com/18a2d6ef14da527973f2d9ddae54603e

 

[Phillers]

I've got enough experience with MTF and Research Utiltiy at this point, and i can tell you that never have i ever seen an MTF go to "Check" on a researcher/maintenance to see if they were OK after a CI raid, let alone multiple times,  unless they are the assigned escort. As of such i believe you did so purely because you saw it was a Sleuth and a Maynard.

-Support.

Edited August 21, 2020 by Falxen

[Orange 🍊]

-Support
I shall pretend to walk away, but really turn on third person, go around the corner to catch them lacking because I know they are CI but I need a reason to in RP.

[Anatole]

With me being in the TS I had unmuted after this had happened because I was trying to ask comrade a question on another sit.
With the video, I decided not to get into it during the sit, but with you staring at the wall fairly far away from the room, it really looks like you were abusing third person. You were not moving, you were standing still staring directly into a wall. You were way too far to see anything or even see into the room but in sit said you saw a gensec and Maynard dead in the room but the instant he had walked out of the room you had started shooting at him.

13 minutes ago, Not Niro said:

they kept telling me to leave but i kept saying i came to help

42 minutes ago, Not Niro said:

 came back after finding out it was false 

You not only disregarded a higher-up's orders, but they already had an escort with them which they were testing on 294, there's no need for you to be there when there was a CI raid going on which wasn't falsed, it was a solo raid by Skela where I saw him going through facility. 

 

22 minutes ago, Not Niro said:

 After that i went inside to check and saw that there is shots and i saw the researcher having a golf out and seeing the gensec getting hit and killed + maynard i went to shoot the researcher after that 

I don't know if you talking about inside 294 or if you talking about the hallway but you were just at the entrance when the gensec had already been killed and there was a 3-4 second pause before he had run out of the room which would have given you enough time to get to the door if you had just entered. If you had just entered all you would have seen is a researcher running out of a room from where you were, you could have then questioned him but you instantly started shooting him. and again the only way you could have actually seen any of them attacking each other is if you were third-person peaking. Finally, by the time you had looked into the room, at least the generic's ragdoll had already gone.

[Jack S]

I see it as valid, I know he's a Tmod and still has more to learn, I have had problems too, but understand that the evidence was valid and this man has only been staff for a day.

-Support

[Not Niro]

10 minutes ago, Orange said:

-Support
I shall pretend to walk away, but really turn on third person, go around the corner to catch them lacking because I know they are CI but I need a reason to in RP.

I walked away to go to armory you can tell i was not even there then the researcher talks you can't even see my name on the right that shows that i walked away  + even if i did there is no way to tell that i stayed 

[Forehead man [GL]]

1 hour ago, Comrade Boekhom said:

bro you claimed IN THE SIT you did NOT see anyone attack the gensec, you said you heard shooting and a smack, thats literally it.  also just cause were in the same ts channel means nothing, we were with 7 other ci in the ts at the time so big fat

 

-SUPPORT

Based on all that that does sound like metagaming. While it is unclear in the video, if ravioli had a confession then it should be valid

[samall56]

2 hours ago, Comrade Boekhom said:

bro you claimed IN THE SIT you did NOT see anyone attack the gensec, you said you heard shooting and a smack, thats literally it.  also just cause were in the same ts channel means nothing, we were with 7 other ci in the ts at the time so big fat

 

-SUPPORT

Also disregarding higher-ups orders is FailRP in itself

[Squash]

-Support - Would have been neutral on this however from what it looks like you're tyring to lie yourself out of this

Now listen alright, my hotspot on my phone aint letting medal work, However im still -supporting it for my statement above (Since I cannot see any evidence for myself except text) but from what I am getting from this is you decided to watch Maynard and a Slueth instead of dealing with CI? Yes, Nu7's first priority is usually Scps, however second should be CI

Not only that, but you tried to tell Maynard that he cannot test which I can tell you AR+ can be out of bunks during defcon 3 even with a threat in LCZ (AR is the second lowest non command rank btw)

I can clearly see how you meta gamed by deciding to watch Maynard the secret ci spy (Which you should not know) instead of DEALING with CI

Not only that, but from what Anatole said you decided to shoot Maynard instead of questioning as to what just happened in there which is pretty much Meta gaming & Rdm possibly failrp to since you did not decide to question him

Feel free to ping me here/discord if I messed anything up here, Literally cannot see the Medal evidence

 

Edit: I was told that you used to be MTF Command, so regarding that you should know better, there is no excuse for saying Maynard cannot test on a defcon 3 and sticking around Maynard trying to get him to go to bunks to stop his testing instead of getting to CI - Also I cannot access the evidence, its your link im pretty sure. Other clips work just fine for me

Edited August 24, 2020 by Squash

[Mint]

On 8/21/2020 at 12:38 PM, Not Niro said:

The thing in the video there is no way to tell if i saw it or not   + as Nu7 we should be helping researchers with tests in lcz or hcz 

not on a defcon 3 bro

[Rookieblue]

Based on reviewing the discussion this is not a staff report, this is a warning appeal. Moved to the correct area.

[Rookieblue]

Denied