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Should Security CCs receive a nerf to NLR/Lose the ability to Enter HCZ?  

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  1. 1. Should Security CCs receive a nerf to NLR/Lose the ability to Enter HCZ?

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+support, we should get more mtf cc's instead. That'll balance it out. Also, shitstorm happened

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Security CC's ATM are MTF CC's but they have 1/3 of their NLR shaved off because they spawn in LCZ

They need a drawback

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+ Support THERE JUST MTF CC THAT DONT NEED TO WAIT A 3 MIN NLR WHY DOES A GENSEC CLASS HAVE A TRAQ 

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I mean i dont have a problem of an extra minute of NLR but this was already denied.

 

 

 

Also theres no reason to restrict them from HCZ at all.

 

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we dont just handle dblock. Although dblock is our main priority we only go out when dblock is under control. We are supposed to handle CI under certain circumstances, and make sure LCZ is safe.

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+support
I don't seem them needed to enter HCZ unless they have an escort. As you stated it's either 1 or the other and I would much rather be unable to enter HCZ then remove the 2 min NLR. I already wait 3 min because of habit but I feel that gensec CC's are needed to hold down D-block as the regular security do not have the guns capable of fighting D-class with guns and CI (if CI are raiding) and if a lot of them are killed than enough they will be unable to hold down D-block. CC's are there as a safety net for security.

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8 minutes ago, Giovanni said:

Security CCs are more of a defending force than MTF.

 

9 minutes ago, Giovanni said:

do this better than MTF because they are custom classes who can come back every 2 minutes instead of 3

 

9 minutes ago, Giovanni said:

This discourages security as they are wiped out without their high ranks, and then they get off, hurting security activity.

 

12 minutes ago, Giovanni said:

issue towards MTF activity, as their job is taken and it decreases morale

 

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11 hours ago, Giovanni said:

An alternative to this is to remove their ability to enter HCZ/EZ

They shouldn't be going to HCZ/EZ without a rank, they still need to follow security SOP, if you see them doing that please report it.

Security CC's without a rank is pretty much an OFC

 

11 hours ago, Giovanni said:

They are constantly patrolling HCZ, stopping raids and breaches, taking MTF's job from them

Every time I have seen/attack CI on a CC with other CC's is when they are in LCZ,  We rarely attack them in HCZ.

The only time security is in HCZ is for RCF stuff or escorting.

Again I have spoken to Gio/Sixx and have been told that CC's have done it but rarely

11 hours ago, Giovanni said:

Who would this change mostly benefit? - Everyone

You mean CI because again I have not seen security CC's take MTF's job because we spend 99% of our time in LCZ/D Block.

I have spoken to Gio and Sixx and have been told the MTF have complained.

 

But for now I will +/-Support because I haven't seen CC's do that but I could be wrong
I am still keeping it as +/-Support because I am worried about the confusing if normal security is 2 minutes but the CC's are 3 minutes

 

 

I am also pretty sure this suggestion has been made before but was denied.

I like what Th3 and Rookieblue said so I have changed to a -Support

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2 minutes ago, MiniLeopard said:

 

You mean CI because again I have not seen security CC's take MTF's job because we spend 99% of our time in LCZ/D Block.

 

 

Well at this point its almost impossible to break through D block as a D class whether your a CC or not because of how good they are against D class. I Believe they should need to wait a 3 minute nlr I feel that would balance D block pretty well 

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+support to the highest degree

Not only does it infuriate me to get mowed down with a Negev after killing the guy like 2 times just for another short NLR but as an scp player half the time I have consistently seen security ccs with their brand new Negev, leave d block, camp a checkpoint for the scp to come LCZ and then mow it down without even telling MTF, calling it out and thinking it’s their job now is just a piss take.

gensec ccs only exist to exploit the gensec nlr system and get a good spawn, if u make the spawn the same as MTF as well as the NLR time I doubt we would have any gensec ccs at all.

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Just now, Neo said:

There is literally no reason for GENSEC CC's to have a 2 minute NLR.
You are killing people with only 100 HP and with Negev's.
Degrades MTF CC's.
Difficult to combat a maxed class with buffed NLR.
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22 minutes ago, MiniLeopard said:

They shouldn't be going to HCZ/EZ without a rank,

This isn't enforced at all.

22 minutes ago, MiniLeopard said:

The only time security is in HCZ is for RCF stuff or escorting

Literally today just seen 2 CC's camping LCZ meeting room CP bridge.
Not to mention the class I seen up there is full of command.

22 minutes ago, MiniLeopard said:

You mean CI because again I have not seen security CC's take MTF's job because we spend 99% of our time in LCZ/D Block.

You forgot about the 100HP class you destroy all day with your Negev's.
Also the KOS SCP's.

But anyways +Support.
I love how you think this is just a suggestion for CI just because a CI posted it.
It's also for the people you shoot everyday.

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5 minutes ago, Neo said:

I love how you think this is just a suggestion for CI just because a CI posted it.

The reason I thought it was for just CI is because I have only heard CI/D class complain so not "Everyone" but I have spoken to Gio and he told me more about it so I am sorry about that.

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Ngl we are MTF CCs that spawn in LCZ so I agree to make our NLR 3 mins but I disagree with restricting Security CCs to just LCZ. You have to remember that in order to go into HCZ as a CC you either have to be CMD or be a CPL+ with permission from WO+, and to go into EZ you have to be a SM+ with a MAJ+ escort.

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17 minutes ago, Sixx said:

+Support

Ngl we are MTF CCs that spawn in LCZ so I agree to make our NLR 3 mins but I disagree with restricting Security CCs to just LCZ. You have to remember that in order to go into HCZ as a CC you either have to be CMD or be a CPL+ with permission from WO+, and to go into EZ you have to be a SM+ with a MAJ+ escort.

 

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55 minutes ago, Sixx said:

+Support

Ngl we are MTF CCs that spawn in LCZ so I agree to make our NLR 3 mins but I disagree with restricting Security CCs to just LCZ. You have to remember that in order to go into HCZ as a CC you either have to be CMD or be a CPL+ with permission from WO+, and to go into EZ you have to be a SM+ with a MAJ+ escort.

 

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1 hour ago, Jack (utility one) said:

+support
I don't seem them needed to enter HCZ unless they have an escort. As you stated it's either 1 or the other and I would much rather be unable to enter HCZ then remove the 2 min NLR. I already wait 3 min because of habit but I feel that gensec CC's are needed to hold down D-block as the regular security do not have the guns capable of fighting D-class with guns and CI (if CI are raiding) and if a lot of them are killed than enough they will be unable to hold down D-block. CC's are there as a safety net for security.

 

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I’m so fucking glad that most of us can actually agree on this issue. There is no reason for them leaving LCZ besides escorts, and if they are doing so, then the researcher should have a level 3 card. As for NLR, it’s just common sense. Due to the amount of power they have, and the recent influx of their activity, it’s ridiculously strong for 5+ Negev wielding 200 200 CCs to only have to wait 2 minutes.

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